Yeah, I agree that his form picked up but he wasn't as commanding as he has been in previous seasons during the period when he was playing well. I felt like he could have dropped a clanger at any moment.
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Yeah, I agree that his form picked up but he wasn't as commanding as he has been in previous seasons during the period when he was playing well. I felt like he could have dropped a clanger at any moment.
Schmeichel also saved a pen from Sheringham when he played for Spurs.. He also saved a pen against the great Marco Van Basten at Euro 92.
It was great technique by Xhaka. Hard to pull of correctly but when you get it right they're unstoppable.
Out of curiosity, who is the best GK in the world for you?
Because he makes impossible saves on a regular basis and those saves are outstanding enough to win you several points over the course of the season more than a regular GK and besides he has won our Player of the year 3 or more times in a row and been included in the EPL(adjudged by many to be the best league in the world) team of the year severally.
Dave has set extremely high standards of performance compared to other GKs and these make people place somewhat unrealistic demands of him at times regarding certain saves but don't forget he is human as well and prone to a mistake or two every now and then. Don't be too harsh on him. He will not long before now make you eat your words. I can assure that.
The shot was similar to a deflected shot which obviously wrongfooted De gea. The ball swerved massively mid-flight when he had already committed.
Ungrateful for calling him out when he has a bad performance? So, we're just meant to turn a blind eye any time a player has a bad game? It's not like we're doing a Madrid on it and boo'ing him.
Over the last 10 years it's Neuer easy, though he looks like he's declined badly now after the injury. Ter Stegen and Alisson have been the 2 best in the last 20 months or so for me. I rate Oblak a lot too but he's crap with the ball and I'd like to see him exposed a bit more rather than an 11 man defence, he pretty much never has to sweep or anything. Ter Stegen is pretty much excellent at everything and though his shot stopping numbers aren't amazing he has Dave's thing of super man type saves at big moments. Alisson has posted obscene save per goal numbers for 2 years, he might be behind a good defence now but at Roma last season it was like a siege on their goal every game and he saved everything, now they've got a shit goalie they let loads in again. He's also obviously good with the ball, decent on crosses, excellent sweeping.
And you are right, everyone makes mistakes, including the ones I've listed but I think way too many are creeping in to Dave's game at the moment. In the last month alone we've the goal he cost us v PSG, come out minutes later as he knew he'd fecked up, fecked up again and luckily they missed, was ropey on both goals v Southampton, the dodgy punch at the end of the second leg and whatever the hell he was doing for their first yesterday.
I like Dave and there's not loads I'd swap him for but it feels like he just has one really good attribute which some seasons is amazing, that's great but for best in the world convo's I think he needs something extra. He's kinda like the strikers who can only score goals and do pretty much nothing else, it's a quality attribute but to be the best you are going to need more to your game.
Yeah and I do think Ederson is bloody good too. For a Pep team he is just perfect and you can see the clear defensive improvement in City since he joined. Although Bravo did let them down a lot.
I think Navas is bloody good too, but for some reason they made him number 2 and did buy Courtois.
I dont know what pissed me off about Dave more yesterday, Xhaka's goal or him failing to save another penalty. The penalty even went to the side Dave 99.9% of the time dives to as well 
We need to keep him but he's not doing a great job of reminding the board why with this form this season
We need to keep him but he's not doing a great job of reminding the board why with this form this season
I've always been consistent in saying DDG distribution poor. even when everyone was raving about him after spurs and rightly so I still wasn't happy with his passing in the 1st half. his reflex is his only standout attribute I think most can agree with that.
It has to be said, he is not in a great moment, the Xhaka goal was a poor mistake. May be he has his head around the new contract, since against PSG he also had that punch that didn't end up in goal but was a poor mistake as well.
Im not worried at all for him, he is one of the best GKs if not the best in the world, but we need him at 100% yesterday was a crucial game and I can't help to feel that we let go a great chance to end up it top 4 because of him.
Im not worried at all for him, he is one of the best GKs if not the best in the world, but we need him at 100% yesterday was a crucial game and I can't help to feel that we let go a great chance to end up it top 4 because of him.
Alisson makes way more mistakes than De Gea and far less quality saves. Stats don't interest me with keepers, personally. There's far more out of their hands, so to speak, than with other positions.
Nah, just the bias clouding judgement.
He is letting the board see what having a human being in goal will be like. If they want Super Dave they need to cough up.
I just wished he oozed the love for us. Ultimately its the reason I'd take him leaving us on the chin.
Not sure where you get that impression from, there are loads of tweets from him showing he loves the club.
Everyone has become a goalkeeping expert but I'm willing to give De Gea the benefit of the doubt here. He has to commit himself to Xhaka's strike and the late swerve made it impossible to get back. Was a strange goal but we should have been 1 nil up before that. I blame him more for Valery's goal last week , he should have saved that.
Manchester United has been his life for nearly 8 years, pretty sure he loves the club. Maybe even more than any fan.
It was weird, he took the step the wrong way once in anticipation, and then seemed to do it again, it was not a special shot, nor in the corner, it was just a routine save.
I'm happy to give him loads of get out of jail free cards after what he's done for us, but he is definitely well off his form atm, and I just hope it's a natural dip in form, rather than any wanting extra money, or other clubs after him causing it.
I was right. Last penalty he saved was from Romelu Lukaku!
He saved another one against Everton in the Moyes era I think. From Baines, low to his right. That is the two that I remember.
Saved from Steven Gerrard, though we lost 3:0 at home.
And from RVP in the 8:2
3 in the PL (Baines, Gerrard, RVP), 1 in FA Cup (Lukaku), 1 in CL (against CSKA in 2015).
Gerrard's pen hit the base of the bar, and I don't remember De Gea getting a touch.
Fair enough, maybe it's a quirk of how stats are tallied then.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/jan-oblak/elfmeterstatistik/spieler/121483
13 saved / 25 not saved in regular games, which is actually damn good.
His performances this season is a bit worrying, although I would love to tie him up a long term contract but is he worth breaking our wage structure by offering him close to Sanchez's money?
We should at least wait till we get rid of Sanchez this summer and hopefully his demands will lessen as a result.
We should at least wait till we get rid of Sanchez this summer and hopefully his demands will lessen as a result.
Geez, some fans really don’t know how spoilt they are. We have just gone on a huge unbeaten run, untold away wins in a row, a historic victory in Europe against one of the favourites to win, complete squad harmony....... but when the star goal keeper gets wrong footed from one shot and fails to save a penalty in the same game some fans call for him to be dropped for more than the FA cup game!! Before he’s even had a chance to make ammends! He’s probably desperate to get back out on the pitch and make up for the last display.
Actually you know what, I’ve changed my mind, with so much at stake and a few months left of the season, lets for no logical reason change our world class keeper for our back up reserve and shake up our whole defensive unit. Yes i rate Romero, but come on, he’s not De Gea. Besides, Romero isn’t exactly a stranger to rash or wreckless decision making. Did he not get sent off this season???
Yes. Makes complete sense to me.
Before he’s even had a chance to make ammends! He’s probably desperate to get back out on the pitch and make up for the last display.Actually you know what, I’ve changed my mind, with so much at stake and a few months left of the season, lets for no logical reason change our world class keeper for our back up reserve and shake up our whole defensive unit. Yes i rate Romero, but come on, he’s not De Gea. Besides, Romero isn’t exactly a stranger to rash or wreckless decision making. Did he not get sent off this season???
Yes. Makes complete sense to me.
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Really can't see him playing for United for the next 18-19 days.
I think De Gea gambled massively with that shot. He was already moving to his left even way before Xhaka had his laces on the ball. I have seen so many keepers do this because it gives you that extra milliseconds you need to get to the ball. But it was a massive gamble on that day because the ball took a slight swerve.
Another thing i notice is his distribution has been really poor which explains why he prefers throwing out the ball (which I prefer) now rather than kicking it. I remember VDS was excellent when it comes to throwing out the ball which gave our attack more impetus.
Another thing i notice is his distribution has been really poor which explains why he prefers throwing out the ball (which I prefer) now rather than kicking it. I remember VDS was excellent when it comes to throwing out the ball which gave our attack more impetus.
SAF dropped Schmeichel in the treble winning season for far less.
We have only one world-class player and we are discussing how to get rid of it.I imagine how the fans of our rivals will be happy if David leaves us. And we will begin the great era of Barthez,Carroll and Taibi, then we will understand how ungrateful we were.
Be honest, is his distribution or command of his area anywhere close to top class?
I don't get why some fans get so insecure about any criticism towards De Gea. He's arguably the best keeper around but he isn't the Messi or Ronaldo of goal keepers. Even if he was, he's had a poor season and most of us are calling it as it is. I doubt anyone wants us to get rid of him. Although I disagree with it, anyone who suggest he should be dropped is doing so for his betterment to fire him up.
I think De Gea has some weaknesses that creep up sometimes. He's generally good from long shots but he's had a few howlers in his years. Command of box is another one of his weaknesses and knowing when to come collect a ball -- PSG punch was the most recent of that.
As far as his last game though, I don't want to blame him for the Xakha goal. That was an awkward swing and it happens. What I do want to criticize him for was the terrible distribution all game. If you're going to be that bad just pass it to your defender.
I think De Gea has some weaknesses that creep up sometimes. He's generally good from long shots but he's had a few howlers in his years. Command of box is another one of his weaknesses and knowing when to come collect a ball -- PSG punch was the most recent of that.
As far as his last game though, I don't want to blame him for the Xakha goal. That was an awkward swing and it happens. What I do want to criticize him for was the terrible distribution all game. If you're going to be that bad just pass it to your defender.
He's been an unreal servant to the club, that cannot be understated. That being said, his current contract situation has not helped.
Is Dean Henderson ready to step up? I know there was some talk about some of the biggest clubs in the world having a look.
Can someone who's seen him this year with Sheffield United comment? Does he have the bottle to be United's keeper?
Is Dean Henderson ready to step up? I know there was some talk about some of the biggest clubs in the world having a look.
Can someone who's seen him this year with Sheffield United comment? Does he have the bottle to be United's keeper?
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I can only count like 5 or 6 penalty saves DDG made for us. No way he's that high.
It's career stats.
He is letting the board see what having a human being in goal will be like. If they want Super Dave they need to cough up.
This was near his peak I think:
And I remember a few more positioning errors too. Philippe Albert for Newcastle and Robbie Fowler for Liverpool very clearly, and some more I can't think of right now.
Imagine how many times we'd be asking for him to be sold and replaced with fecking Romero.
And I remember a few more positioning errors too. Philippe Albert for Newcastle and Robbie Fowler for Liverpool very clearly, and some more I can't think of right now.
Imagine how many times we'd be asking for him to be sold and replaced with fecking Romero.
Yeah, every GK make mistakes. VDS also dropped the ball which led to 2-2 draw. If not for that, we would have created record by winning 19 out of 19 league games.
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