Really needs some penalty practice...always goes early.
So does Pogba so there's no excuse not to.
So does Pogba so there's no excuse not to.
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Unreal how some of our fans have turned on him. A year ago Dave was untouchable from any criticism but now it's open season. How quick some are to forget... yes he's made a few mistakes this season and has some areas where he has to work on again but ffs the guy has been our best player for about the last six years. He's saved us from defeat countless times and has pulled off some the most ridiculous saves I've seen from a GK. He needs to sign that contract and he'll be back to his best in no time.
Hopefully we won’t pay him upwards of £200,000 per week.
I’m not bothered about the goal (it happens) or the penalties (expecting a goalkeeper to consistently save penalties is stupid).
But his kicking is really frustrating - on balance his ability to stop goals is so good we can ignore it somewhat, but it’s getting very noticeable recently how bad his distribution is.
But his kicking is really frustrating - on balance his ability to stop goals is so good we can ignore it somewhat, but it’s getting very noticeable recently how bad his distribution is.
De Gea probably has been our best player post Fergie. That doesn't mean he's immune from criticism though.
He stepped to the left which was his mistake for the first goal, the penalty was poor but I'm less bothered by that.
It's his distribution which is the actual problem though, it's alarmingly poor.
He stepped to the left which was his mistake for the first goal, the penalty was poor but I'm less bothered by that.
It's his distribution which is the actual problem though, it's alarmingly poor.
He's a very good goalkeeper, but I don't understand why people can't see his clear deficiencies. I would have Schmeichel or Vds over him in a heartbeat..
No-one disagrees about what he did before but it's very dangerous to live in the past. In football you get judged by the present. Otherwise we will be here for a long time excusing his deficiencies because of the "last 6 years".
All goalkeepers make mistakes, even the best ones. Keep faith
VDS was so calm and helped his defenders so much. Vidic,Ferdinand and VDS did feel almost unbeatable and I can't forget that long run without conceding. Qualities which are harder to see I think rather than just stopping goals. I am too young for having watched Schmeichel live though so can't really talk about him much.
When put under pressure De Gea can do well in terms of saving shoots. I think for a weaker side he does great and has helped us over dire years, but he doesn't really feel suited for a dominating side. Struggled for Spain too.
He may not be world class in those other areas but he’s certainly not ‘limited’. Jesus. The ball swerved today, he was wrong footed. It happens. He missed a penalty. Most keepers don’t save penalties on any given penalty. Some crazy posts as a result, re-considering signing him to a big deal or dropping him for Romero. I mean, wtf?
I think you make a good point regarding his suitability in a struggling side compared to a dominating one. Schmeichel and Vds had a presence where they would claim crosses and relieve so much pressure.
Yeah VDS bossed the defence and organised shit. Something really DDG has never done.
I wouldn't say people are turning on him. Just maybe being more honest. He's been pretty mistake prone for a couple of seasons for both club and country.
For a while people just kinda pretended it wasnt the case. Now it's starting to happen enough for people to take notice. Admitting he's not perfect isnt turning on him. He's still a great keeper and I'd imagine most supporters still adore him.
Then who is?
The first shot by Xhaka had a nice curve to it so it's very difficult to save it.
The second one was a penalty and you have to guess the right directions for penalty. There's just not enough time.
The second one was a penalty and you have to guess the right directions for penalty. There's just not enough time.
Oblak/Ter Stegen
A fully fit Neuer is easily the best.. Not only does he command his area, his distribution is amongst the best.
Oblak is another that gets mentioned, but I haven't seen enough of him.
When is he going to learn to pass out from the back? It’s hurts the way we want to play in the future if he won’t attempt passing out from the back. I don’t care about the little errors or the lack of his control in the area. His ball stopping and reflexes balance it out but his inability to not pass out from the back is not acceptable. It’s no secret that most quality sides have added this to their gamestyle and it’s required now more than ever that he start incorporating this into his general play. It’s really not up for debate. Trust your defenders David and pass it instead of laci g your boot through the ball.
I didnt watch the match as was working. i cant believe how people are now saying David De Gea is overrated, proper over reaction its amusing you now all rate goalies who arnt great savers but can pass a ball i want a goalie who can save a shot not pick out a pass
Just bad day. He'll be back to his best again. Come on, De Gea!
I would too. But DDG has saved our ass multiple times, is now entering his prime age, and is now experienced.
Well, even Petr Cech (the one who beat Neuer in Champ League final penalty shoot out) could not save 15 consecutive penalties @ Arsenal.
A 'penalty', as the name implies, is a penalty imposed on the team and there's always a higher chance of the ball going in instead of out. Cannot really blame the keeper for it. They can only guess a direction.
A 'penalty', as the name implies, is a penalty imposed on the team and there's always a higher chance of the ball going in instead of out. Cannot really blame the keeper for it. They can only guess a direction.
Proper shockers in here, people seem to sway their opinions at a whim. Some have convinced themselves that he's not worth a renewal with the wages being mentioned, when he is one of our only two world-class players. Can't make this shit up.
Also, fecking
at Oblak/Ter Stegen being better. Maybe people need to watch more football instead of forming their opinions on basis of stats and forums.
Also, fecking
at Oblak/Ter Stegen being better. Maybe people need to watch more football instead of forming their opinions on basis of stats and forums.Everybody moaning about his distribution, mistakes and about his salary approach. He’s not the best in the world, he’s worse than Ter Stegen, Oblak, Alisson... are you serious?! You have very short memory, DDG was saving our asses for several years and we must give him 300k salary if he wants. We will not find a better GK because the best one is already with us. Everybody mention Ter Stegen, he’s not even close to DDG, he’s better at distribution but much worse in another goalkeeping aspects. Oblak is very good at shotstopping but his distribution isn’t better than DDG. We are not playing possession football and can’t keep the ball well under pressure, after the pass to GK our defenders and midfielders don’t even try to help him in creating options for the pass and keep possession of the ball. If DDG play in Barca, City or Juve, we would no doubt call him the best of the best. The GK’s position worries me the least, we have more important positions that need to be strengthen.
And leaders like Evra, Vidic and Rio needed a lot of guidence from their goal keeper? It's a lot easier for a defence to be organised when it has greats like those three in it, as opposed to Smalling, Lindelof, Shaw and Ashely FFS Young.
Well the Spanish defence has greats in it like Ramos, Pique to name but a few and De Gea goes into his shell there.
VDS has always been a talker (not a shouter). Whereas De Gea is mute for the most part.
What is interesting is that De Gea has got to where he is by improving his strengths without necessarily improving his weaknesses ... lack of leadership, not saving pens and distribution have been long standing criticisms and he hasn’t really made significant improvement in these areas yet is undoubtedly one of if not the best keeper in the world.
He’s still young and hopefully he can improve in these areas and be a more all round force between the sticks.
Of course they need guidance from their goalkeeper. Rio himself has said it how VDS used to marshal them in defence.
Do you remember our so called leaders when they had PIG or Foster in goal? There wasn’t the same calmness at the back, so no if you got a goalkeeper all over the place then it won’t be easier. I still can’t get over that punch the other day against PSG. You expect him to calm the defence down, but he brings more pressure. He is hesitant also to come off his line at times. There’s times where I seen our defenders scream at him for that.
Also DDG hardly plays with mugs for Spain. He had Ramos and Pique, two of the best in the last decade yet hasn’t even been great for Spain.
I’m sort of glad Romero is starting the next game. Let’s see what he can do in a tricky away game.
Not sure why he tries to be clever with his kicking when we have Lukaku and Pogba in the team. Just hoof it up to either of them and hope we win the second ball. Our back four isn't anything special on the ball anyway so it's not worth the risk trying to find Young with a cute lofted pass.
I agree. He is probably the best goalkeeper there is out there when you’re under pressure, like the Tottenham match in January. But he is not that “extra player” you need in a dominating team.
Can you name one goalkeeper in world football who doesn't make mistakes? So because I say he is the best, you are implying he should be perfect?
He is like a striker with a great shot and excellent movement in the box, but offers next to nothing in other aspects of the game. Although he hinders the team a bit, he is great when he is hitting worldies and scoring tap ins and headers, but when those thunderbolts are unable to beat goalkeepers anymore or when he actually starts missing those tap-ins and sitters, then a very big problem has to be solved.
Some diabolical posts in this thread. Not just this one.
Ahhhh, classic caf.
De Gea is not world class now after that performance.
De Gea is not world class now after that performance.
I once said that Vidic and Ferdinand would look worse playing in front a goalkeeper that struggles to command the box. When as a defender, you have to do about all of the defending yourself with little help from the goalkeeper, then you wouldn't look as good. The shots will keep coming, and the goalkeeper will take the credits for the ones he could save, and you will take the blame for the ones he couldn't save.
He's saved our ass for years and the one time he does a mistake all the pitchforks are out.. Some people!
He is a match winning gk for Christ sake. Literally earns us so many underserved points in a season. Probably worth about 10 each season. No other GK in the league does this at the top level
Don't think we should bow and give whatever he asks for his new contract and he has some issues in terms of distribution or commanding his area (forget shouting or yelling, he can command it more by sheer presence), but people better think twice what they wish for. The days of Bosnich, Barthez, Caroll, etc where not so far away. We had 3 incredible keepers in space of 25 years and a bunch of keepers for whom De Gea is on another planet. And he still is/always was in top 3 in the world in his position.
Average keeper or not so good one is absolute and utter nonsense. Although, some people where questioning Fergie all the time, so not sure why am I even surprised.
Average keeper or not so good one is absolute and utter nonsense. Although, some people where questioning Fergie all the time, so not sure why am I even surprised.
He's saved our ass for years and the one time he does a mistake all the pitchforks are out.. Some people!
Don't think people are criticising him for the mistake, it happens at times. But pointing out the fact that his distribution has to improve and so does ability to be good at penalties is justified.
Under the first season with LVG and Mourinhos second season I would agree. He had some monster games when he won us the points. Two times away against Arsenal funny enough. Although most other seasons he has not really done great for us. This season we started so bloody bad and he was part of that with Mourinho. You can understand the bad form since everyone did play badly though. Under Mourinhos first season it was Romero that won us the cups and we did end up in 6th place in the league. I don't blame De Gea for it, but he was far from brilliant. Under the second season of LVG he also didn't do that well. We conceded not so much, but it was mainly from just keeping the ball and having so many 0-0 draws. Under SAF he was very much hit and miss although did well when we won the title. Under Moyes I think he did well, but we did struggle a concede a bit too much so don't think he won us that many points.
It's important to remember just how good he is and that he's only going through a rough spell. I've seen United fans calling for him to be sold and calling him an average keeper.
Distribution, without a doubt it should be much much better. However on pens, I dunno, it's tough to ask that from a keeper IMHO.
His kicking is atrocious, really disappointing
Get rid and play Romero.
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