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2018-19 Performances

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6.0 Season Average Rating
Appearances
47
Clean sheets
10
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
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manunited1919 said:
Hopefully we won’t pay him upwards of £200,000 per week.
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You'll have to. People blame him for running out his contract, but the business problem is not only his fault, it's between two parties. The price for a goalkeeper in his class has exploded the past years. So let's entertain the idea that he walks and you have to replace him. You'd need to pay at least 50m and 150-200k a week to get at least the same quality back, and that's a conservative estimation. So a lot of money is made in football, and De Gea's agent takes out his calculator, looks at those 50m and 150-200k figures, and would like, say 300k a week for four years, and it would still be cheaper to United. While at the same time, if he does run out his contract, he can possibly get more than 300k a week, Ramsey style, for saving his new club the transfer sum. It's just business. That he hasn't signed yet is not just because De Gea doesn't budge yet, but also because United doesn't.
 
He needs extra training. Say, one hour per day saving penalties. Everyday.
 
While it is easy to blame Dave for the 1st goal, it is understandable how it ended up being a goal. The ball seemed to be curling inwards or coming straight at him till nearly the penalty spot. It is understandable that he had shifted his weight to his left and by the time he saw the change in direction, it was just too late to save the shot.

As far as Penalties are concerned, sure he should be doing better but I don't give a feck if he's bad at it. It's not as if we concede a pen every game or 2.
 
He was still in the air when he should have been set to save it, and he would have managed to even with the swerve. It's his first mistake under Ole, it happens.
 
nemanja15 said:
He was still in the air when he should have been set to save it, and he would have managed to even with the swerve. It's his first mistake under Ole, it happens.
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Unfortunately, it isn't.

His first total howler I suppose, but he's made some odd decisions lately. He should have comfortably caught the ball which ended up being bundled in by Kimpembe in the 1st leg vs PSG. It was a few steps away from him. No one should be winning a header in the 6 yard box.

He also flapped at that cross late on in the 2nd leg which had us all baffled.

Away at Spurs was his last top drawer performance. He's been fairly average by his standards since.
 
nemanja15 said:
He was still in the air when he should have been set to save it, and he would have managed to even with the swerve. It's his first mistake under Ole, it happens.
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It is the third mistake in the last 3 matches to be fair.
 
He's a brilliant keeper that has saved us over and over and over.

He's currently in pretty poor form though. There's nothing wrong with talking about it, he's made a fair amount of errors this season.

It happens, hopefully he gets over it because if we want to make top 4 and win something we need him back to his best.
 
Awful yesterday, and to tell the truth has been pretty poor all season.

His kicking is dreadful, one thing that Romero is much better at is his distribution.

We need this contract situation sorted one way or another, as I feel it's like a cloud hanging over him at the moment.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
Awful yesterday, and to tell the truth has been pretty poor all season.

His kicking is dreadful, one thing that Romero is much better at is his distribution.

We need this contract situation sorted one way or another, as I feel it's like a cloud hanging over him at the moment.
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To say he has been poor all season is stretching it a bit I think.
 
We are the most ungrateful fans in the world. I am sure that if Messi played for us, after each lost match we would complain that he is too weak and terrible in the air and that Ronaldo is the best player in the world.
 
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What's the pen save percentage for guys like Oblak, Ter Stegen, Alisson, Ederson etc?
 
De Gea being singled out for some very harsh and unfair criticism. Any top team would be happy to have him. I remember at Wembley it was virtually Spurs vs De Gea. Considering the pace and swerve in that shot, anybody calling that a howler desperately needs to watch more football.
 
Kemizee said:
Can you name one goalkeeper in world football who doesn't make mistakes? So because I say he is the best, you are implying he should be perfect?
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He makes many more than the best though, or at least has in the last year or so. Out of interest, how can a goalie who can't pass, won't come off his line and isn't good on crosses be the best in the world?
 
Viral United said:
I think we need new GK coach,
He had very good distribution under LVG, but not any more.
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It is a bit strange, I’ve thought for a couple of years now that his distribution by foot has gone systematically backwards. He used to be good at it. I also think his assertivity in the box has declined, after he grew from weak to ok and now back to ok minus.

On the line he is the world’s best by far and has been for several years. One-on-one he is also among the best there are.

I don’t think PK is a very interesting issue, a good PK keeper will save you maybe two or three goals a year on Pks compared to a medium one. The Penalty shoot outs are 9 out of 10 decided by the collective work of the shooters (being prepared, doing their tasks, keeping their cool).

But I would think distribution and box work is something you should easily be able to work with, and that you shouldn’t really able to regress in with good training.
 
Vault Dweller said:
To say he has been poor all season is stretching it a bit I think.
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By his high standards he has been poor.

Just look at the PSG game prior to Sunday for example, that stupid punch in the 91st minute could of cost us the tie. The Southampton game prior to that he wasn't sharp either. It seems to be a regular pattern with him this season. Of course he gets excused alot more than other players (and rightfully so), but to point out he has been pretty poor this year is only fair I think.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
By his high standards he has been poor.

Just look at the PSG game prior to Sunday for example, that stupid punch in the 91st minute could of cost us the tie. The Southampton game prior to that he wasn't sharp either. It seems to be a regular pattern with him this season. Of course he gets excused alot more than other players (and rightfully so), but to point out he has been pretty poor this year is only fair I think.
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One daft punch doesn't make a performance bad, nothing wrong with the Southampton performance either.

Arsenal match was very poor though, shit happens, same shot a 100 times and it does't go in.
 
Mick321 said:
He makes many more than the best though, or at least has in the last year or so. Out of interest, how can a goalie who can't pass, won't come off his line and isn't good on crosses be the best in the world?
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Schmeichel made mistakes in every 5-6 game, but no one remembers that. VDS conceded a joke goal in the Champions League final from Messi. If we now had Stam or Rio in defense, De Gea would have broken records in the number of clean sheets.
 
Grande said:
It is a bit strange, I’ve thought for a couple of years now that his distribution by foot has gone systematically backwards. He used to be good at it. I also think his assertivity in the box has declined, after he grew from weak to ok and now back to ok minus.

On the line he is the world’s best by far and has been for several years. One-on-one he is also among the best there are.

I don’t think PK is a very interesting issue, a good PK keeper will save you maybe two or three goals a year on Pks compared to a medium one. The Penalty shoot outs are 9 out of 10 decided by the collective work of the shooters (being prepared, doing their tasks, keeping their cool).

But I would think distribution and box work is something you should easily be able to work with, and that you shouldn’t really able to regress in with good training.
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I agree it shouldn't regress but if you look from start of JM years, you can see his distribution is regressing.
In LVG years when we generally do keep ball, he was good at distribution of ball.
I do believe it might be issue of his training, may be they are training some other method.
I think different GK coach with different idea can sort this out.
 
UncleBob said:
One daft punch doesn't make a performance bad, nothing wrong with the Southampton performance either.

Arsenal match was very poor though, shit happens, same shot a 100 times and it does't go in.
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Wasn't just the punch though, some of his kicking was bad aswell. That is something which is a regular problem with him this season. His kicks often create an attack for the opposition because it comes right back at us.
 
Viral United said:
I agree it shouldn't regress but if you look from start of JM years, you can see his distribution is regressing.
In LVG years when we generally do keep ball, he was good at distribution of ball.
I do believe it might be issue of his training, may be they are training some other method.
I think different GK coach with different idea can sort this out.
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Yes, I tend to agree with you there.
 
He's been shaky since the World Cup. For whatever reason playing with Spain seems to feck his mind a bit.
 
SilentWitness said:
He's been shaky since the World Cup. For whatever reason playing with Spain seems to feck his mind a bit.
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It's definitely down to external factors. Can't imagine Spain NT's dressing room culture being too good. Catalans vs rest of Spain vs English based players, there are bound to be a few groupings there. Toxic crowd is another big factor.
 
VorZakone said:
What's the pen save percentage for guys like Oblak, Ter Stegen, Alisson, Ederson etc?
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Alisson - 5 saved out of 15 - 33%
Oblak - 13 out of 38 - 34%
Stegen - 10 out of 39 - 25%
Ederson - 5 out of 30 - 16%
Buffon - 31 out of 105 - 29%
De Gea - 11 out of 49 - 22%
Casillas - 23 out of 99 - 23%
Neuer - 18 out of 57 - 31%
Van der Sar - 9 out of 57 - 15%
Schmeichel - 1 out of 30 (not sure how accurate this is) - 3%

I think this is excluding penalty shoot out.
 
roonster09 said:
Alisson - 5 saved out of 15 - 33%
Oblak - 13 out of 38 - 34%
Stegen - 10 out of 39 - 25%
Ederson - 5 out of 30 - 16%
Buffon - 31 out of 105 - 29%
De Gea - 11 out of 49 - 22%
Casillas - 23 out of 99 - 23%
Neuer - 18 out of 57 - 31%

I think this is excluding penalty shoot out.
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and what is De Gea's?

also if you could include a separate one for pen shoot outs too, would be grateful!
 
SilentWitness said:
He's been shaky since the World Cup. For whatever reason playing with Spain seems to feck his mind a bit.
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Don't agree. He started the season in shite form but he has improved the last couple of months, before his form getting dropped again the last 3 matches. Don't think Spain has a relation here. Probably his contract issues or just bad patch.
 
Raees said:
and what is De Gea's?

also if you could include a separate one for pen shoot outs too, would be grateful!
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De Gea's is there in that list. Not sure where you get entire shoot out thing.

De Gea is way ahead of VDS and Schmeichel's record (if it's accurate in transfermarkt) is downright pathetic.
 
roonster09 said:
De Gea's is there in that list. Not sure where you get entire shoot out thing.

De Gea is way ahead of VDS and Schmeichel's record (if it's accurate in transfermarkt) is downright pathetic.
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Thanks mate.
 
Always funny how he can rescue our butts game after game and this thread is quiet, but then one mistake and its page after page with some saying hes a reflex keeper and thats it (although a reflex keeper that doesnt react to penalties).

The problem he has is the high standards he has set, so nearly everything looks like a mistake (although it was a mistake yesterday despite the late swerve).
 
Paul_Scholes18 said:
Under the first season with LVG and Mourinhos second season I would agree. He had some monster games when he won us the points. Two times away against Arsenal funny enough. Although most other seasons he has not really done great for us. This season we started so bloody bad and he was part of that with Mourinho. You can understand the bad form since everyone did play badly though. Under Mourinhos first season it was Romero that won us the cups and we did end up in 6th place in the league. I don't blame De Gea for it, but he was far from brilliant. Under the second season of LVG he also didn't do that well. We conceded not so much, but it was mainly from just keeping the ball and having so many 0-0 draws. Under SAF he was very much hit and miss although did well when we won the title. Under Moyes I think he did well, but we did struggle a concede a bit too much so don't think he won us that many points.
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Last season he literally saved 80% of shots faced, won keeper of the year and we finished second, with no right to be there based off our chance creation and chances faced
 
sullydnl said:
Hmmm, I suspect their figures are off then. We all remember the penalty save against Arsenal. I'm fairly sure he made at least one more.
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Thats the only save mentioned in saved penalties.
 
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