His kicking is a bit shit. Fellaini made it look half decent.
He also probably prefers a deep defence because he is not good off his line.
He also probably prefers a deep defence because he is not good off his line.
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- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
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been hearing this quite a bit. if I was giving a rating for all the GK roles;
De Gea Shotstopping = outstanding, sweeping = ok/average/decent, kicking = poor, command of area = ok/average/decent.
we have not really had keepers like Ederson or Alison and they have shown us other dimensions to keeping I guess we saw with that German lad.
Alisson would be like this, shot stopping = great, command of area = great, sweeping = very good, kicking/paying with feet = very good. Overall he seems to have more favourable attributes to be a more complete keeper.
Huddersfield 1:1 Man Utd
Did fine today.
2 good saves I think, with his trademark feet at that, swatting it away.
Also he did one good sweep-clearance outside of the box kicking it away.
Shame about that one goal conceded.
2 good saves I think, with his trademark feet at that, swatting it away.
Also he did one good sweep-clearance outside of the box kicking it away.
Shame about that one goal conceded.
He was fine today, made a couple of decent saves and I don't think he was to blame for the goal.
Up until about mid March he was having, by his own high standards, a very average season. There had been the odd poor mistake like at home to Arsenal for the Mustafi goal and he had that sensational game away at Spurs but other than that he was fairly mediocre.
He wasn't making loads of terrible errors but he also wasn't making incredible saves like had for the previous 5 years. He was having a Kepa like season.
Then from mid March on, starting with an error for Southampton's first goal, he has been a complete and utter disaster. He must have been at fault for a goal in almost every game we've played for about 8 weeks. It's incredible.
He wasn't making loads of terrible errors but he also wasn't making incredible saves like had for the previous 5 years. He was having a Kepa like season.
Then from mid March on, starting with an error for Southampton's first goal, he has been a complete and utter disaster. He must have been at fault for a goal in almost every game we've played for about 8 weeks. It's incredible.
Man Utd 0:2 Cardiff
Just read that he’s only saved 2 league penalties since the 8-2 win against Arsenal in 2011
I don’t understand how his record is that poor
I don’t understand how his record is that poor
Not great again, but also not terrible.
I understand why people talk about all our problems today.
I understand why people talk about all our problems today.
Tough year for Dave, reminds me of his earlier days under Fergie, get a decent partner for Lindelof who's not going to rotated every week and we might see some more stability at the back again.
Needs a break.
He’s been poor, not just in the mistakes he’s made but with his distribution and presence at the back. We need him to have the summer off and just take a break. Hopefully back to his best next season with a new contract.
At his best he’s the best shot stopper in the world, however City and Liverpool have shown how much a keeper with good feet can add to the team, that more than compensates for their shotstoppong. DDG is in danger of becoming an outdated type of keeper.
At his best he’s the best shot stopper in the world, however City and Liverpool have shown how much a keeper with good feet can add to the team, that more than compensates for their shotstoppong. DDG is in danger of becoming an outdated type of keeper.
According to Transfermarket.com across all competitions De Gea has faced 32 penalties as Utd keeper and his record is
Saved 4
Conceded 27
Off target 1
He's currently on a run of conceding 17 penalties in a row for club and country.
Absolutely diabolical, if you concede a penalty with De Gea in net you might as well just give them the goal.
I mean, in the absence of context...has he faced any 'saveable' pens?
Do clubs employ goalkeepers on the basis of penalty saving ability, given the lottery nature?
Is it really a diabolical record? Is there a comparison out there which confirms that its diabolical?
Penalties in my mind would be the least important factor when rating De Gea.
Caballero is considered a penalty specialist, but is an average goalkeeper who plays second fiddle, an example of how meaningful the skill is.
Stays on his line
I don't think all of the last 17 penalties he's faced were unsavable if that's what you mean.
I don't think it's a huge factor in determining how good a keeper he is either, I'm just pointing out he's crap at penalties. He didn't save any in the World Cup shootout last Summer either.
It's just weird that such a brilliant shot stopper, not this season granted, with brilliant reflexes is so poor at reading where the penalty taker is going to put the ball.
Reckon his distribution got worse due to the defense ahead of him
Tbf I would probably boot it as far as possible instead of passing it to smalling too
Tbf I would probably boot it as far as possible instead of passing it to smalling too
No, but they train on them and try to be a better stopper. The overall penalty saved in premier league is 21 out of 80. That is 25%. This number has improved over the years since the quality of the keepers in the premier league has massively improved in other teams in the league. DDG nowhere near 25% saving rate. He is less than 10% if I would guess.
How long before the transfer request goes in?
Surely it's a matter of days rather than weeks.
Surely it's a matter of days rather than weeks.
100 m and will be happy with him leaving
2nd lowest by 1. Last season he had 20 instead of 10
ffs.
2nd lowest by 1. Last season he had 20 instead of 10
According to sky we made an offer to make him the best paid keeper in the world and his agent says it is not enough
Get rid of him already
Get rid of him already
we should definitely get rid if he doesn't sign a new contract in the next couple of weeks
No benefit of keeping him as he will most like leave us on a free contract next year
No benefit of keeping him as he will most like leave us on a free contract next year
Compared to Allison and Ederson, DDG looks like a player from a different era. However, I’m not sure that suddenly every keeper is suddenly going to be able to become a ‘sweeper keeper’. How many other PL keepers play like them?
Those two in particular, add a great deal to their teams, that more than compensates for them not being as great a story stopper as DDG. That’s very clear.
However, they also have the players in front of them to effectively play in that style, DDG does not. But, he could do a lot better with his distribution, DDG has not worked on some of his weaknesses.
Most fans (of all teams) recognised he was one of the best keepers in the world over the last 5 years, 6 months suddenly doesn’t change that. It has however, highlighted that he’s no longer indispensable at Utd, which makes contract negotiations more interesting, and much more palatable (to the club) if he needs to be replaced.
Those two in particular, add a great deal to their teams, that more than compensates for them not being as great a story stopper as DDG. That’s very clear.
However, they also have the players in front of them to effectively play in that style, DDG does not. But, he could do a lot better with his distribution, DDG has not worked on some of his weaknesses.
Most fans (of all teams) recognised he was one of the best keepers in the world over the last 5 years, 6 months suddenly doesn’t change that. It has however, highlighted that he’s no longer indispensable at Utd, which makes contract negotiations more interesting, and much more palatable (to the club) if he needs to be replaced.
I don't get it. For several years he was universally regarded as one of the best keepers in the world. Then he has one poor season, along with everybody else in the squad, and suddenly people just forget that he was sensational for like five years. I suppose I don't understand football fans. There's plenty to say about his mistakes this year, but we're talking about a period of months; he wasn't even poor all season. How can anybody who considers themselves a rational person come to form the opinion that he's simply a bad keeper? Did he just punch above his weight for five years straight and finally returned to his true form? Because that has to be what these people think.
There's something wrong at the club and it clearly affects player form. Everyone's been shit since SAF retired, except DDG who had been remarkably resilient to that malady up until this season. Now it's finally got to him and people somehow come to the frankly insane conclusion that we should get rid of him? What? That's like if your house is riddled with mold and it causes your coffee maker to malfunction so you try to solve the problem by getting a different coffee maker. Also the one you already had was the best coffee maker you could possibly hope to get, by quite a distance. It's the mold we need to get rid of, not the appliances that fall apart from it.
There's something wrong at the club and it clearly affects player form. Everyone's been shit since SAF retired, except DDG who had been remarkably resilient to that malady up until this season. Now it's finally got to him and people somehow come to the frankly insane conclusion that we should get rid of him? What? That's like if your house is riddled with mold and it causes your coffee maker to malfunction so you try to solve the problem by getting a different coffee maker. Also the one you already had was the best coffee maker you could possibly hope to get, by quite a distance. It's the mold we need to get rid of, not the appliances that fall apart from it.
He's been mistake prone from since the start of 2018.
I only wish we had players of the quality of De Gea (or close to him) in every position of the starting line up. We won't be in the mess we are in at the moment.
Limited players?
Yes, I wish all our players were as "limited" as him.
I know it's been talked about a lot but Dave is world class at his short range shot stopping but he leaves a much to be desired in other area's of his game. He's served us well over the years but if he's demanding this much to stay then it's obvious he doesn't really want to stay.
We can easily managed with Romero for a season if we patch the defence and go all in for Oblak next summer. Moving forward we need a more well rounded goalkeeper, someone who's capable of playing as a sweeper keeper.
This line about DDG being only world class in his shot stopping is taking a swing on here. Well fine, it's fine to have opinions and everyone is entitled to one, but then you go on and say how we can easily manage with Romero and it makes me laugh.
Romero is not good enough and no we won't easily managed with Romero, who's a tournament GK and has never been good enough for a starting role at a big club. I agree we should draw a line and not give in, but on fecking De Gea? While we give 120k a week to useless shit like Young, Jones and Lingard? Give me a break. A sweeper keeper is the least of our problems at the moment.
We have CBs who can't win a header, number 10s who can't play football, wingers who can't beat a man and outpace a defender, full backs who can't cross the ball properly, and some of you think loosing our best player in DDG simply because he is not Ederson with the ball at his feet is some good idea.
I'd rather De Gea takes 300k a week than paying average dross 120k a week.
So you'd rather tie a goalkeeper down, who's been sketchy, to a £300k a week, 5 year + 1 deal than go 9 months with a perfectly suitable reserve keeper so we can pursue an upcoming quality goalkeeper in the following summer? That is called shitting the bed.
Considering we're looking to rebuild the defence and midfield this summer, our goalkeeper next season shouldn't be the one fighting fires for us constantly. If we've got CB's that can actually win a ball in the air and fullbacks that don't let wingers cut inside a shoot at will our GK will be a hell of a lot less busy.
Same here. Let Henderson stay at Sheffield United for a season to see how he copes in the PL, keep eye on other goalies that are around. Let Romero have the role for a season and go from there. He just isn't worth the money he is asking for any more. In fact football is different, we likely need someone whose distribution is a lot better to start attacks from the back. Not just DDG belting it upfield. He might be better next season, but he could also get a lot worse.
Agreed. I'm 100% certain SAF would show him the door at this point. He tried to do with Rooney under similar circumstances but Moyes put the kibosh on that when he came in. At the end of the day, De Gea has had a good run with us but all things come to an end at some point. There are other keepers out there that can do a job also, we're not beholden to David De Gea.
Yes, I'd rather tie down our best player to a contract then lose him for a small fee now, then go with a reserve keeper for a year. This pursuing of an upcoming quality GK seems easier said than done mate. I think many of you forget how difficult it was to replace Schmeichel and great GK don't come every week. Yeah Oblak is a great GK, but he will cost more then 100m and would he be even willing to trade Madrid for this mess of a club we are at the moment? I like our own young GK Henderson for example, and I think he would be our best bet if we were to replace De Gea, but it's too soon this summer.
And we are looking to rebuild our defense and midfield for 6 years now, what we did instead is fill up the squad with average players on enormous wages, and I don't really have much faith in this structure we have that they will fix it right this summer. Keeping De Gea even if it is for a year or two more, is imperial imo. We can't allow to open other holes when he have so many already.
If henderson is as talented as he sounds then does anyone think that the step up to first team wouldnt be as complicated as it sounds? 1 transition year max i reckon.
The goalkeeper position isnt the same as any other position. I think a transition is far easier for a goalkeeper than it is for any other outfield player position.
The goalkeeper position isnt the same as any other position. I think a transition is far easier for a goalkeeper than it is for any other outfield player position.
This.
Although i feel the reluctance to let him go is because we feel we havent been as successful as we wish we could have been with him at his best for so many years.
We need to let him go especially for the sort of money its been reported that he is holding out for. We dont need another Sanchez redux.
Bring Deano back and let's have the same amount of patience we had with him as Fergie did with a young De Gea.
Sick of the club looking like some rich oil club with a long term, unsustainable financial/business model staring at us right in the face.
Bring Deano back and let's have the same amount of patience we had with him as Fergie did with a young De Gea.
Sick of the club looking like some rich oil club with a long term, unsustainable financial/business model staring at us right in the face.
So apparently he's purposely running down his contract so he can leave for PSG and receive a massive sign on fee and wages as he came for free. I'd try sell him and take a fee this summer. If he refuses to leave this summer whilst also refusing to sign a new deal then just bench him for the season. Euro's coming up so he'll have a decision to make.
Think we should bring in a good short term option like Cillessen which leaves the pathway open for Henderson still.
Either way it's a shame it seems to be ending like this.
Think we should bring in a good short term option like Cillessen which leaves the pathway open for Henderson still.
Either way it's a shame it seems to be ending like this.
Shame if he has no interest in renewing.
Unless there's no insane offer, which i doubt, there's no reason to let him leave this summer, it'll just leave us in a position where we'll have a short amount of time to identify a replacement (which will most likely cost a fortune)
Unless there's no insane offer, which i doubt, there's no reason to let him leave this summer, it'll just leave us in a position where we'll have a short amount of time to identify a replacement (which will most likely cost a fortune)
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