He scored at least 20 goals a season every year since 2010. Including 23 goals in 4 seasons in the Champions League.
Danny Welbeck to Hull for £10m?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Danny is going nowhere. It's Javier who will be leaving us.
I'm sorry when did this become about their goal records, I was asked if any club had a player that played welbecks role. I offered substantial proof, so you naysayers yet again change the subject to goals. What is it? Can't prove i'm wrong that big teams have a welbeck type player who won't score all the goals but will provide them.
I like Welbeck but he isn't going to get much of a sniff at CF this year injuries aside, & personally I'd rather see Wilson get the the number 3 slot if Hernandez goes, so what are the chances LvG could get him going properly as either a WB, or a winger? Seems to have all the attributes for it, or a bit more unlikely but as a box to box midfielder?
Just don't see him making it as a striker at United.
Just don't see him making it as a striker at United.
10-11 = 26 in 48
11-12 = 32 in 52
12-13 = 20 in 50
13-14 = 24 in 52
Not bad for someone sacrificing everything so Ronaldo can score. Pretty damn consistent and he's a very good player. Certainly more consistent than Welbeck is in front of goal. One purple patch (and that's all it was) last year doesn't mean Danny is suddenly anything like a decent goalscorer.
Welbeck will do very well to get 20 in 50 once in his career, let alone consistently like that. I don't think he ever will.
People may very well reckon that £10m and Hull is a bit of an insult if they're fans of his, but ask yourselves, if he went for anything more, do you really reckon the Hull fans would be happy with him when he struggles so badly in front of goal?
What?
You said they don't score a lot of goals. They do. Benzema is a 20+ goal a season striker for Real Madrid. He's not as prolific as Cristiano Ronaldo, yes. You said he wasn't a consistent goalscorer. How is that not about his goal record?
He's not just kept for his hard work and sacrifice. He's also expected to score goals. And he does so, consistently. Which Welbeck needs to prove he can do.
Aye, but I'm not the one comparing Welbeck to established strikers. I know you aren't but I'm being pedantic
He had an incredible run for 6 games... Only 6 games. It's a fool's errand extrapolating those to an entire season. I rate the lad highly, but he won't become a starter in our team unless he is given a deserved run of games for development. I'm willing to gamble on him, but I don't think the success starved fans and LvG will be that kind. For his own good he needs to leave for an upcoming team (Southampton?) and play week in and week out.
@ this thread.No way should we consider selling him. He is a very good fit for our new system and a good player already who is tactically flexible. And he has all the tools to take the next step and become very good pretty soon.
Some fans overrate him and some underrate him. Cannot judge him on numbers alone either.
Some fans overrate him and some underrate him. Cannot judge him on numbers alone either.
It's inexplicable that people rate him on goals, when he barely ever gets to play a full game up front, let alone a run. He's mostly out pissing about wide, or a sub.
if he played all season up front, it's unlikely he wouldn't get at least 15 goals.
He is our third striker in a new system that suits him and needs 2 strikers. And he offers something different to our first 2 strikers who have knacks of picking up injuries.
Not sure why would he leave the club he has been for so long at now. Plus he is the type of player that would do well surrounded by better players.
The Caf is hilarious. Benzema is way better than Welbeck. Welbeck is not a 20m footballer. Welbeck is not a 20-25 goal striker. He is not a late bloomer like Drogba. He has been playing for 5 years at United. Noone outside of our fanbase rates Welbeck highly.
And rightly so. He is English, a manc who has come through the academy to start in some pretty big games, and he is still only 23. Many fans and more importantly the club, value the importance of a local lad coming through the academy/youth set up and becoming an important member of the squad or the team. The club will give him the time to reach his full potential and that's why Welbeck will get what you call the 'benefit of the doubt' from a lot of fans and most importantly the club.
Obviously Roy Hodgson does.
Not sure what the point of this discussion is about. There is a group of people who will never rate Welbeck unless he explodes and becomes a world class striker scoring goals for fun. No amount of stats or comparisons will change their opinion. Just be happy they don't run the club.
He doesn't make our team better because he works harder, he is involved as pretty much any other player when he is on the pitch, he is running with the ball, dribbling past players, makes good use of the ball, but you wouldn't understand that since you see him just as workhorse. IF you want to understand, just check at our preseason games with and without Welbeck and you'll see clear difference in our performances.
Comparing him with Lloris is just ridiculous, I have no idea how to even compare keeper with outfield player, it's just stupid.
He is considered as one of Ajax's biggest talents and yet after all the talk no one from big clubs was even interested for him, even though lot of big teams bought lot of defenders at the time you bought him, meaning no one was really that impressed with him. Scott Parker was player of the year, it's quite obvious those lists are ridiculous. Steven Gerrard was there ahead of Yaya Toure, what's your point? The thing is that he is far from impressive as defender since he arrived in premierleague, only thing that is impressive about him is his ability with the ball and his physical abilities. He was actually very average in his first season, I remember he was making mistakes quite often yet no one was even mentioning that based on his form for about 5-10 games in first half of his first season in Spurs. He was dropped for Vermaelen immidiately after shit performance against Algeria, but Vermaelen being Vermaelen injured himself after 20 minutes and he was brought back to play because they had no options left.
Welbeck had 9 goals and 4(!) assists in 1461 minutes in premierleague last season(goal/assist every 112 minutes), and Eriksen had 9 goals and 7 assists in 1975 minutes(goal/assist every 123 minutes), so you are right, that's not identical, Welbeck was actually better looking at stats.
Yes he does because outside of Rooney and Sturridge there are no decent English strikers.
Welbeck had 2 assists. No idea where you get your stats from.
The rest of what you said was absolute crap and your assessment of Vertonghen simply wrong on all levels.
Rafael, Rooney and Welbeck. My favorite players are either hated by our fans or constantly injured. What the feck has happened
Danny is still missing that factor that adds zeros on his number. He isn't a goalscorer. A poor finisher isn't exactly a hot topic for top clubs. It's also a trait that's very hard to take up. He's got pretty much most other things going for him besides finishing but imo that's a big piece missing.
He needs to get a move to progress. Better for his career, bad for us.
He needs to get a move to progress. Better for his career, bad for us.
Danny isn't a goalscorer in the same way Cleverly isn't Scholes and Nani isn't Ronaldo
What a thread.
You're on the caf too much. Rooney is always divisive but fans in the 'real world' tend to like both Danny and Rafael.
Lloris, vertongen, eriksen
Haha, don't worry. OT crowd loves all 3 players!
Says it all really. Should we consider Louis van Gaal's new 3-5-2 system as well as his habits, he will want players up front who are lethal and composed in the final third. With that regard, I would trust Wilson above Welbeck at the moment. For any striker who wants to have a successful career, especially for a top team, the thing he needs most as a bare minimum is instinct. Welbeck just doesn't have that, thus I also believe it's for the best for both parties that we cut all ties with him this time.
His chances to goals ratio isn't good enough.
I'd sell him and give Wilson a chance as 4th striker
I'd sell him and give Wilson a chance as 4th striker
Strange thread. Hull is making an offer as a main striker whereas at United he's a complimentary player who has a less than sparkling goal scoring rate. If he was such an interesting prospect then why hasn't Wolfsburg been heard on the matter? Why haven't we heard from other Champions League teams or Europa League teams making bids?
Hull was pretty good at times last year considering they were just promoted
Hull was pretty good at times last year considering they were just promoted
With the number of games RvP and Rooney missed with injuries lasy season and a manager apparently intent on playing two specialist strikers in every game, this season looks like giving Danny more first team games in his preferred position than any season in his United career so far.
Would be an absolutely crazy time to leave.
Stop trolling, you gimp.
Haha
We over rate Welbeck.
Sell him
Sell him
This is never going to happen, but if it did I'd be raging. Selling Welbeck for 10 million is just ridiculous to even ponder.
Nonsense, absolute nonsense.
Of course it is. Champions League clubs are queuing up to buy Welbeck.
Well if Newcastle can get 35m for Andy Carroll from the Dippers maybe we can then get 50 for Welbeck and buy vidal straightaway
. I like the Little Pea but would prefer to keep Welbeck of the two.
. I like the Little Pea but would prefer to keep Welbeck of the two.From memory, Napoli and Real Madrid were interested according to sources no different from this one. If he was up for sale, more clubs will make an offer.
Nevertheless, I am not sure why I am entertaining this thread.