Which coincides with him getting a run in the team as a CF. Before that he was used as a wide forward. He's far more effective leading the line as proven last season during December.
Danny Welbeck to Hull for £10m?
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Which coincides with him getting a run in the team as a CF. Before that he was used as a wide forward. He's far more effective leading the line as proven last season during December.
Welbeck can beat both Giroud and Soldado as starter.
Let's don't worry about the rumour. Why would LVG sell Welbeck. I'm sure LVG likes Welbeck a lot. Every manager loves him. Good ball control and skillful, work hard, chase the ball and win it, team work player with great link up, and he can play at a quick tempo in LVG system.
I'm absolutely stunned that people don't rate him. His finishing (or composure perhaps) isn't the best but everything else is just quality.
Totally agree, he's brilliant at pressing, he can run with the ball and is the only striker we have who has pace. He will be vital for us this season.
Another season, another Welbeck is god/shit argument...
He's a good player no doubt, great linkup play and pace, but there is more to being a striker than running fast and making backheel passes. Let's be honest here, if tomorrow RVP and Rooney will vanish from our team, would anyone here except the fanbois be happy with Welbeck leading the line and be our main striker? I doubt it.
Before last year I thought he was useless, but last year he was one of the players that actually improved even under Moyes. Maybe he can improve further under LVG and become the player we all hoped he could be.
Anyway, I think Adnan will get ahead of him in the picking order as a striker this season.
He's a good player no doubt, great linkup play and pace, but there is more to being a striker than running fast and making backheel passes. Let's be honest here, if tomorrow RVP and Rooney will vanish from our team, would anyone here except the fanbois be happy with Welbeck leading the line and be our main striker? I doubt it.
Before last year I thought he was useless, but last year he was one of the players that actually improved even under Moyes. Maybe he can improve further under LVG and become the player we all hoped he could be.
Anyway, I think Adnan will get ahead of him in the picking order as a striker this season.
I have a hunch too. Januzaj is basically the talent that I don't believe Welbeck ever was and I presume he'll prove it even at 19 years of age.
Mirror should be banned for reporting such rubbish! Welbeck is here to stay and succeed, there are a lot of other players who will leave before anyone at the club even considers selling Welbeck!
I guess I probably the one think differently. I think Welbeck will get ahead of Januzaj in picking striker. Januzaj is probably will be the option if Mata is injured or if we are switching into 433 and he will be the first choice as a winger.
I can't see Kagawa beat Januzaj anyway. Januzaj was originally no 10 not striker. He will be the 4th choice striker. Though I hope Wilson is the 4th.
I can't see Kagawa beat Januzaj anyway. Januzaj was originally no 10 not striker. He will be the 4th choice striker. Though I hope Wilson is the 4th.
You need that in modern football. You runners who can stretch the pitch. Playing Mata Rooney and Januzaj in a front 3 would be gobbled up by any high pressing team. Just as it was when Liverpool trashed at OT last season.
I don't really care how Welbeck compares to players of other clubs I'd never want. These rumors are probably Hull testing the waters to gauge if this astronomically unlikely scenario can be put into motion.
But the fact we still have Hernandez, IMO a much inferior player, means the rumors' only argumentation is piss poor, namely, that Welbeck would be getting very limited game time because he's only third in the pecking order (could even be forth, behind Januzaj, and still get a lot of games).
I can't see how a manager like Van Gaal won't love Welbeck and his great work ethic. And, unlike our other strikers, he ain't slow.
But the fact we still have Hernandez, IMO a much inferior player, means the rumors' only argumentation is piss poor, namely, that Welbeck would be getting very limited game time because he's only third in the pecking order (could even be forth, behind Januzaj, and still get a lot of games).
I can't see how a manager like Van Gaal won't love Welbeck and his great work ethic. And, unlike our other strikers, he ain't slow.
No sweat, he started every pre-season game until he got injured. That should tell us enough.
I don't think that last season is a good example for anything. The team was in a mess in terms of organisation, roles and mentally.
Possibly the most important components for a top level striker for God sake.
I fear for his career if he moves to Hull. It's tantamount to admitting he's failed. No offence to Hull in general, but if that's the best move open to a current England striker, he's better off on our bench.
So many have gone before him with the aim of getting regular starts only to find they've lost their way.
So many have gone before him with the aim of getting regular starts only to find they've lost their way.
He's not going anywhere. A complete non-story. I think Van Gaal likes him and wouldn't be surprised if he does very well this year.
Agree. But I don't think they are that bad. He's at a good level now and he's made improvements and can continue to do so. I don't think there is a huge difference between his level and RvP and Rooney. van Persie can miss some absolute sitters.
Yeh that's true. But my point still stands you need pace in attack to be successful.
Yes he's fast but he doesn't score goals. On top of that his injury record is very poor. If we could find a proven goal scorer who could add pace to our attack I would welcome offers of 20-25m for Welbeck all day long
What, a proven goal scorer as understudy to Rooney and Van Persie? When we've also got much bigger concerns in every other position...nah
I predict that Danny will have a great season. He won't be playing wing-back (well, I guess not) so he'll finally be getting game time in front of goal. He has everything bar the goals so far. I think it's a matter of confidence rather than ability. He'll get that under Van Gaal.
I don't think to be a top level striker you need to be "the best" at finisher and composure. He's a very good at finishing. Not a bad one. Welbeck is typical of 2nd striker anyway.
Not surprised people are believing the Hull rumors. Just have a look at the Vidal, Fabregas, Kroos, etc. thread.
If anything the Real Madrid rumors sounds more believable with his performances versus the big club.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...anny-Welbeck-as-replacement-for-Alvaro-Morata
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...chester-united-transfer-rumours-danny-3845899
Fact is Welbeck is staying and he will continue to improve our football aesthetic alongside our other technical gifted player. Hopefully, he is back at the start of the season because the last two performances without him has been our worst performance thus far in pre-season proclaimed Van Gaal. I can not see us getting away with such performances in the bpl, unless we add another technical gifted forward alongside Rooney which will help balance out our attack.
If anything the Real Madrid rumors sounds more believable with his performances versus the big club.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...anny-Welbeck-as-replacement-for-Alvaro-Morata
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...chester-united-transfer-rumours-danny-3845899
Fact is Welbeck is staying and he will continue to improve our football aesthetic alongside our other technical gifted player. Hopefully, he is back at the start of the season because the last two performances without him has been our worst performance thus far in pre-season proclaimed Van Gaal. I can not see us getting away with such performances in the bpl, unless we add another technical gifted forward alongside Rooney which will help balance out our attack.
Welbeck at Hull? He would score 90% of their goals.
Welbeck to hull. Thought Aprils fool had come and gone.
how is his injury update? he is almost a key player up front. Rooney - Welbeck pairing is the best we can go out with. Hope danny stays fit this season. He will be a cracking player if he plays say 30 matches upfront, not less than 15-20 goals I expect from him and a lot of work for the team. He just needs to have one season injury free and with complete trust of manager giving him chances to play upfront.. if he is not ready for the swansea game than I am not sure who should play there. Chicha is opposite to perfect when pairing him with rooney and RVP lacks fitness as well as Januzaj but surely Adnan could play a half couldnt he?
I hope you are right. Also, I agree with you that we have bigger priorities elsewhere. If Welbeck stays I see him replacing RVP in around the 60th minute in each game. Was surprised to see how gassed RVP got in the WC games.
First off he's not going to Hull. Secondly, is he still injured or will he be there Saturday? Welbecks finishing is both frustrating and dodgy but that can be worked on, other than that Welbeck is a fantastic player and suits or new system to the ground, hope he's back.
You've got to be f'cking joking. Have you not seen how transfer fees have come on?
This is a guy who started at the World cup. McCormack has just gone for £11m to play for Fulham. Long we've covered.
It's criminal how little we ask for our players.
But seeing as Welbeck will be starting at least the first game of the season, is 3rd choice and we play 2 up front now, there's not a chance he's off.
Don't think Dembele would start for us this season personally, but I agree Welbeck's starting team level is a Tottenham/Everton. Which isn't to be sniffed at when both will be competing for 5th.
He'll stay with us without question. It'd be mad to suddenly go now when we're actually looking likely to play 2 up front.
With the fee Soton got for an England fringe player like Lallana there's not a hope of Welbeck going anywhere for less than 20m. All the more so considering strikers usually have a premium price.
Sticking a 10m fee on him is f'cking bananas.
Sticking a 10m fee on him is f'cking bananas.
Have you seen our record when it comes to sales? A 20m fee would make him out 3rd highest transfer out of all time.
This is one of the most ridiculous rumours I've ever heard. Hull just got 12m from selling Shane fecking Long.
Welbeck's alright but if he were to leave I reckon he would go to a team like Hull/Sunderland/Villa - unless, of course, he wants to go abroad in which case the likes of Sevilla, Roma etc. might fancy him. He's not good enough to attract top 7 teams at the minute except maybe Spurs who would probably rather go for a dozen supposed foreign talents. Hull are a stable side who should stay in Premier League, they play in Europe and have Bruce - a manager who gave him his first proper shot at Premier League.
Not one of them are strikers, and Sandro? Really? Your posts are bloody awful. You can talk about his goal scoring record al you want, but Soldado was fecking AWFUL last season. His La liga record is irellevent, all he has proven so far is he is a rubbish and inept striker at premier league level who can score the odd penalty. When bloody adebayor who hadn't played for months comes in and gets double figures while Soldado does feck all, you have to look at that and say you spent terribly. Welbeck was miles better last season than Soldado and was unfairly dropped when he was in goalscoring form for Rooney and RVP when they were back from injury.
Because we don't sell established first team players that are young and improving, thankfully.
He's far better than Adam decking Lambert.
I wouldn't sell him for less than 20 million
I wouldn't sell him for anything.
Even when we sell off players that are surplus we do a far worse job of it than most teams, hence I can't see just getting the right value for an established player.