I can sense the sarcasm but player power is strong. Let's take Alli for example... He has four years left on his contract but after winning nothing this season he decides he wants out. It's not unrealistic to say he could quadruple his wages at Utd, City, RM. If he kicks up a fuss there's not much Spurs can do. They can threaten to not play him but that does no one any favours.
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Nothing to do with the fact that Walker took exception to his managers comments regarding his fitness levels (or something like that) and promptly decided to leave the club? It can't be a coincidence that Walker got benched directly after that row and ended up playing a minor role in the squad from that point onwards.
That's the problem there are only a couple of players in this category. If we were to call the other players you mentioned as a level below then they would also be very hard to replace.
Good players are hard to come by. The star players will suffer as a result of their absence.
Rose would probably sign for either us or Chelsea, as he'd get a massive pay rise. But he also knows that Levy won't sell him for any less than Walker cost - and even then he might not be willing - so it's hard to think this is anything other than a cynical ploy for more money. Good luck to him, but getting dragged into more of this nonsense probably isn't where we should be directing our attentions, tbh.
Please release the guy. Its not his fault that he wants to win something in his career.
I'm with you mate! It's Glaston that seems to think that hanging on to players against their will is a good strategy...
As in in three years Rose has played a lot more than ten good games .
Shaw has been a disaster of a signing people need to stop this he might come good rubbish with him .
His first season was fat slow and nowhere near top class then a lil run when he looked a player but then broke his leg.
After that when he came back was the same as when he first came here totally off the pace
#FreeDannyRose
Shaw's last season with Southampton was better than any season from Rose. And Shaw is five years younger.
That's a load of bollocks and only something someone with red tinted glasses would come out with.
Would really like him here since he is the best LB in the league, but I won't even entertain the idea of buying someone from Levy and Tottenham three days before their PL season starts.
Don't think they have a replacement for Rose either like they had for Walker.
Don't think they have a replacement for Rose either like they had for Walker.
His wage is 30k per week? 
Levy is so cheapHis wage is 30k per week?
I'm still in the persist-with-Shaw camp. Rose is 27 and would likely cost 50m. I'd rather add -5m and throw that at Inter for Perisic...
But seriously, there's a really good player in Luke Shaw somewhere. I'd rather we tried to develop him than just go and sign a replacement.
But seriously, there's a really good player in Luke Shaw somewhere. I'd rather we tried to develop him than just go and sign a replacement.
Ben Davies has looked rather good when standing in for Rose, not sure he would be ready to take up the reigns on a full time basis at this stage in his development though.
Sessegnon would be a suitable replacement for Rose.
His wage is 30k per week?
Yes but he will get a new stadium and the spirit in the team is fantastic. Can you put a price on that?
I remember When Mou was at Chelsea, He used to be a big fan of Shaw, I was wondering why things had change ?
Yeah, the cult of Shaw is an odd one. He had about 5 or 6 games before the injury where he looked genuinely excellent but that's nowhere near enough of a sample to compare against Rose being the best left back in the country for 2 seasons. We'd all love him to get back there, and maybe Jose it's complicit in his struggles last season, but he's nowhere near Rose's level right now.
His wage is 30k per week?
Surely not? That is ridiculously low considering last year he signed a new deal.
There are Championship players on more than that.
Not to say that he couldn't reach Rose's level in the near future, possibly even exceeding it long term.
Don't you think Shaw deserves at least one more season in which to prove himself?
65kHis wage is 30k per week?
And we should risk it? Put all our eggs in the basket of a guy that has had less than a dozen good games for us? Nah. We should have some insurance. We're the 6th best team in this league right now. If we was challenging then we can risk it.
I am sick to death of hearing this already.... if its on get it done, get Aurier and Perisic too.
Stop monleying around woody. At this rate its pitty we dont have Buzz as our ceo not him
Stop monleying around woody. At this rate its pitty we dont have Buzz as our ceo not him
Yet the people who have their knives out are more odd. I really do not remember all these terrible performances he supposedly had.
Yeah you are right Shaw should give up at the age of 22
What I find weird is we have plenty of cover at LB. I'd rather see Mitchell or Bothwick given the chance than buy Danny Rose who really isn't anywhere near the level Shaw can play at.
Also it makes no sense as any player playing LB for Jose is likely to be a water carrier.
Also it makes no sense as any player playing LB for Jose is likely to be a water carrier.
I don't see it as a risk personally, rather a long term investment. It wasn't that long ago that Luke Shaw was considered to be one of the best left backs in the world in terms of potential. On that basis alone I would give him another season in order to reach that potential.
Jose may feel differently about the situation, though.
Fair enough
Disagree.
Shaw has no level. He is yet to have a good season at this club. Whatever he has done big, was at Sou'ton years back. Shaw can't be compared with a player who plays regularly "yet".
Even if we want Shaw to succeed and give him an opportunity, he is some months away from coming back and we don't even know how much time he ll take to gel with the team once he plays regularly.
Meanwhile we need someone to perform well at LB.
I am not suggesting Danny Rose is the answer, but we are looking a bit short in that position, with all the potential players in that position like Darmian, Blind etc not looking particularly good.
Shaw hasn't progressed the way we'd hope. A big part of that was the leg break and the niggling injuries he's had since then, but when he has been fit enough to get on the pitch he's not looked great.
If the past 3 years had happened at Southampton, no way would we be buying him. Nor would any big club. Back then he looked like a superstar in the making, now he's trying to revive his career.
Good call on Mitchell, looked really good in pre season. Jose appears to be a fan as well going on recent comments regarding his ability and attitude. One for the future for sure.
Shaw deserves one more season, but without significant progress, I'd have no qualms with us getting rid, which saddens me greatly, but it is what it is.
We should look to bring him in given how short we are in that area. Darmian/Blind and Rojo aren't LB's and Shaw can't be relied on.
Sell Darmian and one of Smalling/Jones, buy Rose, and rotate Rose and Shaw when fit. There is room for two good LBs when you are in 4 competitions. Madrid had Marcelo and Coentrao for a while and they both got plenty of games.
For LB we would have:
Rose/Shaw/Blind/Rojo (in the order of preference)
For CB:
Any two/three from Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo, Blind, One of Smalling/Jones, and Tuanzebe.
This is not a pie in the sky, unlikely FM fantasy. Both Smalling and Darmian have had suitors according to the transfer stories (although I'd prefer to sell the almost-never-available Jones). I reckon they would easily fetch 30m and Rose can be had for 50m.
For LB we would have:
Rose/Shaw/Blind/Rojo (in the order of preference)
For CB:
Any two/three from Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo, Blind, One of Smalling/Jones, and Tuanzebe.
This is not a pie in the sky, unlikely FM fantasy. Both Smalling and Darmian have had suitors according to the transfer stories (although I'd prefer to sell the almost-never-available Jones). I reckon they would easily fetch 30m and Rose can be had for 50m.
Rose would suit left wing back should Jose persist with the 3-5-2 he favoured during pre season. Then again I'd love to see a fully fit Luke Shaw in the same position. I think he would thrive in the role.
Demetri Mitchell has potential, as pointed out by the guy above. Beyond him, though, cover for left back/wing back isn't overly exciting must admit. Particularly with Rojo out for the forseeable future.
No idea why you quoted me when I never said he should give up ,I said Rose has been so much better than him in the past three seasons
Times are saying we are not in for him. Chelsea could be though.
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