They'll be fine this season but if they dont win anything by the end of it, i can see the more important players kicking up a bit of a fuss and wanting to move on, especially if they stagnate while the others improve. Rose isnt wrong, they avsolutely need signings and cant expect everyone to be happy without much progeess. Not saying it'll happen but if they finish 4th or drop out of the top 4 even, then i can easily see eriksen, alderweireld and alli all wanting moves away. Kane is fine there I think and will stick around for a while.
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Yeah the stalling on a new contract indicates as much.
Alli with no connection to spurs and huge market value (he'd get paid 250k\week at us, Chelsea, Citeh) will be next. Kane is more of a local lad and might stick it out for a while, but if he continues his trajectory he is also a £250-300k\week striker and will demand to be paid as much.
I've had a good chuckle watching different Spurs supporters on here deluding themselves that somehow they are the exception to the market price rule, that they are something special and that the 'project' and new stadium will keep their players content on about 33% of what they could get somewhere else.
Next summer will be a very rude awakening for a fair few Spurs supporters.
I haven't ever said that everyone at Spurs is "perfectly happy". I have said - and continue to say - that we generally have a happier and more settled squad than most teams in the Prem.
Nonsense it's true, Rose is athletic and that's about it.
If you want to leave, don't sign a new contract until 2021, at which point, you'll be two days away from being 31. That deal was signed less than 12 months ago.
Same applies to Van Dijk at Southampton whose contract is until summer 2022.
I don't buy this notion that they are under-paid. The fact that United, Chelsea and City pay more is irrelevant; Chelsea and City have been winning titles recently, United players are ridiculous over-paid for their recent performance levels.
Same applies to Van Dijk at Southampton whose contract is until summer 2022.
I don't buy this notion that they are under-paid. The fact that United, Chelsea and City pay more is irrelevant; Chelsea and City have been winning titles recently, United players are ridiculous over-paid for their recent performance levels.
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No thanks!
Haha. You might need some squad depth though. Can you carry the amount of injuries we did last season and still finish top 4?
Bullet points from that?
He's a rent-a-quote in this instance for commenting on a transfer (shocker he's a pundit) while also actually giving a sensible (correct) opinion? Okay.
Wants to eventually play nearer his home up north.
Feels he's not getting paid well and will look to secure one decent last contract now that he's 27.
Thinks Spurs should be signing 2-3 top class players.
Wants medals.
No ways!!
On the contrary, it does diminish your theory because you spoke of progression now stalled, when clearly that hasn't happened. We've progressed in each of the last 3 seasons, and what happens this season remains to be seen.
In any case, I might equally wonder about how many United players might be starting to doubt that United will win the league again during their remaining time at the club, or even challenge for the league title.
Spurs would have to go on and win something first to be compared to the Monaco situation? More like Southampton two years ago :-)
Danny Rose has been poorly advised - this was a planned interview, and he's not done right by anyone, even if his points are completely valid. It's OK to come from fans, or commentators, but not current players.
Can't see him at Utd, we already have Shaw and Rojo as injured LBs. He was very good before his injury, but given he's been out for 6 months and won't be fit for the start of the season, he's going to have to prove himself - it's also going to be awkward when Spurs buy Bob Van Heisenberg and Rose is stood next to him googling who on earth he is! He's going to have a tough ride this season.
No, but been meaning to ask since you play the angle that Spurs are the biggest team around and nobody would dream of leaving.
Utd have won more in the past 14 months than Spurs have in 20 years! That's when we have been poor. Players will always go to Utd because of the history of the club. Pogba and Zlatan signed last year when we weren't even in the CL - who did Spurs sign?
There's a very good chance that Utd will finish above Spurs this year, and City and Chelsea. If I was a betting man, I would put money on it, but doubt I would get very good odds!!
Difference is they are being paid a king's ransom in the meantime.
Footballers have a short career, they will try and maximize their return during the few years they have, be that either trophies or cash.
If you can't offer either then you won't keep your most prized assets, simple as.
No, I don't. That's just your projection.
My "angle" is that Spurs are hugely ambitious (as evidenced by the new stadium and new training centre), will soon enter the global top 10 income-wise, have assembled a talented team for very little money, and have done remarkably well to compete in the league in the face of at least 5 other clubs with currently much more disposable income, two of which are sugar-daddy funded, and all of whom have spent far more than Spurs on transfer fees and wages..
If we sell him for what I think he would be worth in the current market, after having for a few years, and we fetch that money mostly because of his great displays for us and, more importantly, to the long contract he recently signed, I'd be fine with it.
Would I rather keep him or sell for 80m? Keep him, obviously. But I think it would be fair all around if he left for this much.
I was arguing two points with you. One that you were saying Rose shouldn't have signed a contract if he wants to leave and I said that as a fan, you don't want that to be the case. The contract ensures a proper transfer fee. Ideally, I'd love for every player we sell to be on a 5 year contract!
Second point is that you seem genuinely angry at any transfer rumours and not capable to see why anyone would leave Spurs. I gave the example of De Gea because, regardless of what United fans will tell you on here, he has legitimate reasons to go to Madrid.
Ahh ... the famous "next summer", shimmering in the heat haze like a desert mirage, whilst thirsty opposition fans stumble towards it, ever onwards.
"Keep going lads, it's just over that next sand dune!"
Meanwhile, back in the real world, next summer our new stadium opens for business.
Well it depends upon whether they believe NOW that Spurs progression as a team is going to continue. Danny Rose clearly doesn't as he mentions wanting to move away to win trophies!
And yes, unlike you I am not blind to the fact that there could be bigger, shinier, more attractive propositions to our players out there if we do not continue to progress. At present though we have a League Cup and Europa League Trophy in our back pockets so that feeling of pleasure at winning something is probably still fairly fresh in our players minds. Unlike your players, most of whom have NEVER experienced it. If we have still not managed to challenge for the league this coming season, and if our competitors strengthened and we didn't then yes, I would certainly expect our better players to start having doubts. And if they knew they could be paid double by moving somewhere else I would expect that they might be starting to consider moving on.
De Gea is going nowhere, at least not this summer in any case.
I'd put my left pinkie on that
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So your first choice right-back jumped ship and now your first choice left back wants to follow suit after insulting your beloved board on their transfer strategy amongst other things on the players he "has to google" to know who they are.
You were recently saying that Spurs won't sell to anyone at any price in the PL at least but how is that looking for you?
So your first choice right-back jumped ship and now your first choice left back wants to follow suit after insulting your beloved board on their transfer strategy amongst other things on the players he "has to google" to know who they are.
You were recently saying that Spurs won't sell to anyone at any price in the PL at least but how is that looking for you?
And you would know that because?
Reason I am saying next summer is because it is to late in this window for any significant moves. If there was still time left they would angle for a move already now.
Do I think that Pogba would have stayed with us if PSG suddenly swooped in and offered him £900k\week? Like feck I do, he would be "homesick" instantly and would do his best to get the move done.
This way you insist that Spurs exist within a vacuum totally free of what other teams have to deal with is amusing. Just wait until someone start tapping up Alli, Alderweireld and Kane with market wages of £180k-300k\week.
Edit: I see that you've added a paragraph about this mythical and mystical new stadium of yours. How silly of me to forget - of course players will forfeit a doubling\tripling of their salaries along with higher probability of trophies to be able to play in the Sphinx v.2.0.
Really, Glaston, take of your Spuds tinted specs for just a moment and think about it, do you really think the modern footballer feel as much for this stadium as you do? They couldn't give a feck.
Look at the top players willing to play in the Empthiad week out and week in, with mostly blue seats as spectators, yet they play there, because the pay is fecking amazing and the probability of trophies is very high.
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And the bank will be looking their money back.
There is a distinct emanation coming from this post, Glaston.
You're not going to go all DADDY DADDY DADDY WANT WANT WANT on us again are you?
Will he be a legitimate target for Man utd?
While many on here suggest LB our biggest priority, we are not linked to any whatsoever, which indicates Jose is happy with the left back situation or something is being looked at which the media hasn't gotten into yet
While many on here suggest LB our biggest priority, we are not linked to any whatsoever, which indicates Jose is happy with the left back situation or something is being looked at which the media hasn't gotten into yet
I was talking about what Rose wants, rather than what Spurs fans would want. And he if wanted to leave then he shouldn't have signed a new contract, because he can't reasonably expect to do that and then be able to go soon after, just when it suits him ... setting aside the fact that, in all this fuss, he hasn't actually said that he wants to leave this summer.
I'm not angry about any transfer rumours - I find most of them to be quite entertaining: Dier-to-United being a recent example. I am annoyed with Rose, yes, because his interview in The Sun won't do him or the club any favours.
Duncan Castles has an article out today that suggests Mourinho is in the market for a left back.
Can't see it in this transfer window. He's injured, been out for 6 months with a broken leg. Far too much of a risk given Shaw and Rojo are injured as well.
If we think he's a good fit, we should go in with an offer. Danny Rose is a very good LB and would be an upgrade in that position.
However there's no need to play ball with Spurs. Go in with an offer what we think represents the best value for Rose, and offer to double/triple his wages. That'll either set things into motion, or we'll get blocked in which case we move on. I still think Luke Shaw will be our long term option, but Rose would be a good player to have while Shaw develops.
However there's no need to play ball with Spurs. Go in with an offer what we think represents the best value for Rose, and offer to double/triple his wages. That'll either set things into motion, or we'll get blocked in which case we move on. I still think Luke Shaw will be our long term option, but Rose would be a good player to have while Shaw develops.
If reports are believed to be true then we tried something similar with Eric Dier and it didn't work out. Dier was desperate to move to us but Spurs wouldn't budge on the ridiculous price they valued him at. Wouldn't surprise me if the same happened with Rose. Spurs probably value him at around £50M (same as Walker) not sure we would be willing to pay that for Rose.
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It's a rough estimate. Increased income from:
* Ticket sales (74% increase in stadium capacity)
* Merchandising (from many more visitors to the stadium)
* Corporate 'boxes'
* Stadium naming rights (the club is aiming for £400m over 20 years)
* Income from non-football entertainment events (multi-purpose stadium)
* Income from the NFL.
* Increased income from sundry other sources (e.g. the greatly expanded number and range of restaurants and cafes, extreme sports centre, sky walk, etc. etc).
That's without factoring in later planned developments - hotel, housing and more.
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
He is more established than both as a LB currently, Rojo isn't really upto much. I think Shaw could come better though
You have to admit, regardless of whether he does well or not, Pep's premier league tenure has been as much fodder for memes and jokes as LvG. Long may it continue.
Danny Rose will probably try to force a transfer if he feels his ambitions aren't being met by the club. I think he's happy to be patient and stick with Spurs for now but there's slight hints in there suggesting he is waiting for someone to come and buy him. Not necessarily to us, but to a team more likely to win trophies than Spurs and if you look at the track record then United is one of the clear options. He probably will kick up a fuss if it stays the same in a couple of seasons. But if Jose got him on the phone and sold him a good pitch, followed by an attractive financial offer then we could probably light up his eyes now.
Rose, like Dier are good players but not worth bending over backwards for. Especially if Spurs are going to be difficult to deal with. As I said offer to double/triple his wages and the rest is on him to force the transfer (although I wouldn't encourage striking or general unprofessional behaviour). If not then it's not a big deal and we move on.
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