Gaming Cyberpunk 2077 (PC, PS4/5, Xbox One)

I'm blown away by how much this free update has transformed this game, it's *incredible*. I first played it when it was a buggy mess and haven't returned to it since. I still enjoyed the story back then, but this feels very close to what they actually promised 5-6 years ago.
 
So if the game was released in this state in the first place, it would have met all the expectations? It’s an actual 10/10 right now?
 
I just booted up a new game as I had a friend over who wanted to see it, and darn it the writing, voice acting and general atmosphere are in a different stratosphere to something like Starfield (which I’ve been playing this past month).

Jumping into 2.0 and PL in December will be lovely
 
So if the game was released in this state in the first place, it would have met all the expectations? It’s an actual 10/10 right now?
I'd say a solid 8.5/9, its a very good game in its current state.

I still think it was hyped to the heavens during its development, and I for one was expecting a lot more from it. But perhaps that was my fault for buying into the cult of CDPR after their Witcher success and swallowing the gargantuan levels of hype.
 
So if the game was released in this state in the first place, it would have met all the expectations? It’s an actual 10/10 right now?

Not really, because two of the main criticisms were a shallow city and meaningless player background except from the first 30 min gameplay and that didn't change.
 
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Not really, because two of the main criticisms were a shallow city and meaningless player background except from the first 30 min gameplay and that didn't change.
Exactly the reason why despite all the improvements and additions I can't get back into it. The game does a lot of things right, even in its buggier days. But for something set in an open world this size it feels incredibly monotone and empty as soon as you veer off the quest line path. In some ways it feels like they would have been better off turning it more into a Hitman like game, or something similarly more limited in world expansiveness.
 
So if the game was released in this state in the first place, it would have met all the expectations? It’s an actual 10/10 right now?
What’s an actual 10/10? It’s all very subjective and it’s best to try games out for yourself to tell for sure. A game like God of War is considered a modern classic and many here don’t think much of it.
 
Got the plat on the PS4 years ago and i'm now two trophies away from a PS5 platinum but the remaining trophies are now bugged :rolleyes: . The new skill tree design looks interesting and the police system feels way better. Not really tried the vehicle combat yet but there's some promising signs.

Have said it before, i can understand why people are pissed off with the initial launch but I think there's so much potential in this series if they go forward with it.
 
What’s an actual 10/10? It’s all very subjective and it’s best to try games out for yourself to tell for sure. A game like God of War is considered a modern classic and many here don’t think much of it.

I thought the new god of war for ps4 was an 8/10 at best. The sequel was an 9/10 imo. I thought the patched next gen version of cyberpunk is a 9/10. Its difficult to measure at times like Rdr2. Boring and empty at times but the writing and characters really lifted it. I think Arthur is greatest video game character ever.
 
What’s an actual 10/10? It’s all very subjective and it’s best to try games out for yourself to tell for sure. A game like God of War is considered a modern classic and many here don’t think much of it.
Many? I’d say it’s a minority if you go by the thread at least.

A 10/10 for me is The Witcher 3, BotW, Baldurs Gate 3, Elden Ring, Bloodborne. None of them are perfect, but they all raise the bar in their respective genres in different ways.

I’d also class both God of War games as 10/10 for me personally but neither really do anything “new”, they just do it very, very well, so I can understand why some wouldn’t be bothered by them
 
Very tempted to install this again for what would be the 12th time (seriously). Can anyone, who isn't a massive fanboy, cast light on if the combat is at least now interesting with the supposed AI changes? How about the changes to vendors/clothing drops/crafting, are they at least worthwhile to mess with now?
 
Many? I’d say it’s a minority if you go by the thread at least.

A 10/10 for me is The Witcher 3, BotW, Baldurs Gate 3, Elden Ring, Bloodborne. None of them are perfect, but they all raise the bar in their respective genres in different ways.

I’d also class both God of War games as 10/10 for me personally but neither really do anything “new”, they just do it very, very well, so I can understand why some wouldn’t be bothered by them
A minority can still be many. I’d only class my top 3 all time best games as proper 10/10s so that’s a LOT of greats missing out on that. Even something I adore like GoW 2018 or MGS3 SE would fall below despite being absolutely incredible.

Very tempted to install this again for what would be the 12th time (seriously). Can anyone, who isn't a massive fanboy, cast light on if the combat is at least now interesting with the supposed AI changes? How about the changes to vendors/clothing drops/crafting, are they at least worthwhile to mess with now?
Bit strange that being a certified Nintendo fanboi, you seem so badly affected by others loving a game that you don’t - first the weird as feck Kpop reference and now this. Disappointing.
 
Bit strange that being a certified Nintendo fanboi, you seem so badly affected by others loving a game that you don’t - first the weird as feck Kpop reference and now this. Disappointing.

:lol: I knew you'd once again get your knickers in a twist over that one. Shouldn't you be in some up and coming rival game thread playing it down before launch? You know, since nothing is allowed to be better than your precious Cyberpunk.

But since you are here, and despite your dramatic reactions to my silly little jokes I do value your input, maybe you can answer the question then for me: Is combat improved? Does the changes to stats make the character builds feel better through the cybernetics now?
 
I'm blown away by how much this free update has transformed this game, it's *incredible*. I first played it when it was a buggy mess and haven't returned to it since. I still enjoyed the story back then, but this feels very close to what they actually promised 5-6 years ago.

What changed? I played the buggy mess at release that crashed every 20 minutes, and never touched it again after completing it.
 
I am on PC I haven't crashed at all the entire time. Steam/GOG. I was just on it for hours on my new character. Took a break to grab a snack and a phone call. There were new Nvidia drivers if you have Nvidia card that released the same day. Only thing I would say is it is really running my 4090 and testing the cooling. They mentioned that before test your cooling somewhere.
 
I am on PC I haven't crashed at all the entire time. Steam/GOG. I was just on it for hours on my new character. Took a break to grab a snack and a phone call. There were new Nvidia drivers if you have Nvidia card that released the same day.

You've tried it on both for the same amount of time, and messed with the settings on them?

I suspect GOG is more the issue here than the game, which is why I want to know what people are loading the game on.
 
Yes I launched from steam after I downloaded the patch Thursday. Today I launched from GOG though. Accounts are linked Steam/GOG.

I wanted max all settings, my setup should be able to have max. But I did have to step DLSS: Ray tracing down one from Max to 'Performance'. Because I had a weird white glare thing at my feet if that in particular was maxed out. Not sure what the deal is there but backed it down to performance one step down and all perfect since Thursday.
 
Yes I launched from steam after I downloaded the patch Thursday. Today I launched from GOG though. Accounts are linked Steam/GOG.

I wanted max all settings, my setup should be able to have max. But I did have to step DLSS: Ray tracing down one from Max to 'Performance'. Because I had a weird white glare thing at my feet if that in particular was maxed out. Not sure what the deal is there but backed it down to performance one step down and all perfect since Thursday.

Yes the accounts are linked, but often Steam is more stable running the games. It's no different to MS store games.

Thanks though, it confirms to me that the settings are still borked. There are some issues with DLSS and the version the game uses too, clearly. May I ask what fps you are getting and what GPU you are using? And if it's a 40 series are you using frame generation?
 
Intel i9-10980XE Extreme Edition (18 core)
64gb DDR4 3200MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX
ROG-STRIX-RTX4090-O24G-GAMING



I ran Cinebench like they suggested so I was sure everything should be stable on my end.

My average framerate using the internal Benchmark was 112 .
 
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Intel i9-10980XE Extreme Edition (18 core)
64gb DDR4 3200MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX
ROG-STRIX-RTX4090-O24G-GAMING



I ran Cinebench like they suggested so I was sure everything should be stable on my end.

My average framerate using the internal Benchmark was 112 .


A random dev asking people to test their cooling is odd and if more people knew about this would cause some panic for sure :lol:

But yeah, I suspect there's still issues with the setting/rendering. I'll keep testing. Cheers!
 
:lol: I knew you'd once again get your knickers in a twist over that one. Shouldn't you be in some up and coming rival game thread playing it down before launch? You know, since nothing is allowed to be better than your precious Cyberpunk.
Well it’s nice to have self awareness of making a turd post while making a turd post so well done on that I suppose. I have no idea about rival games - are even games rivals now? Sounds like a childish concept.

But since you are here, and despite your dramatic reactions to my silly little jokes I do value your input, maybe you can answer the question then for me: Is combat improved? Does the changes to stats make the character builds feel better through the cybernetics now?
No idea. Haven’t played it.
 
Bit strange that being a certified Nintendo fanboi, you seem so badly affected by others loving a game that you don’t - first the weird as feck Kpop reference and now this. Disappointing.

I think he was only trying to get an objective opinion on the game amol. It’s quite clear how much you love it so it is harder for someone to believe your opinions on it won’t be biased. Having said that, Lambs didn’t even mention you (was asking anyone in a broader sense) but you seem to have taken it personally?
 
Agreed. Which is why it always amuses me when you do it.


Anyway, I'm playing this all day so maybe I'll be joining the dark side. At least from the patch notes it looks like they've finally made some decent gameplay decisions and upgrades, so fingers firmly crossed!

It's worth sticking the settings up to ultra to turn on path tracing just to check that out for a bit regardless of FPS. I found with that and ray reconstruction on I was getting somewhere in the 50's with DLSS on auto at 1440.

I spent a good 30 minutes just looking at puddles and checking out the lighting with that all turned up. It's pretty impressive and shows where we're heading in the next few years.
 
It's worth sticking the settings up to ultra to turn on path tracing just to check that out for a bit regardless of FPS. I found with that and ray reconstruction on I was getting somewhere in the 50's with DLSS on auto at 1440.

I spent a good 30 minutes just looking at puddles and checking out the lighting with that all turned up. It's pretty impressive and shows where we're heading in the next few years.

I spent 3 hours last night messing with settings and getting to see the full game and balancing performance. It's really outstanding what it actually looks like and shows off what RT can really do and puts AMD to shame!

Now today I'm going to actually play and check out the changes. I really hope I can get into it!



I think he was only trying to get an objective opinion on the game amol. It’s quite clear how much you love it so it is harder for someone to believe your opinions on it won’t be biased. Having said that, Lambs didn’t even mention you (was asking anyone in a broader sense) but you seem to have taken it personally?

It's ok mate, I don't mind people being that passionate. If anything I'm jealous of the love for this game in a way as I've always been desperate to love it too. Not sure where the offense is to him though, I don't snap at people claiming I'm a "Nintendo fanboy" I find it amusing and roll with it. Just like Alock does when we call him a MS shill (which tbf is true).

Amol here occasionally has bad days and forgets his sense of humour and I am a little bit cheeky with my jokes sometimes, so I'm sure it's all good :lol:
 
A minority can still be many. I’d only class my top 3 all time best games as proper 10/10s so that’s a LOT of greats missing out on that. Even something I adore like GoW 2018 or MGS3 SE would fall below despite being absolutely incredible.


Bit strange that being a certified Nintendo fanboi, you seem so badly affected by others loving a game that you don’t - first the weird as feck Kpop reference and now this. Disappointing.
Huh? If it’s a minority then that means the overwhelming amount loved it which was my point. I don’t think you’ll ever find a game on here that at least some people didn’t enjoy. It’s all subjective really. You love Cyberpunk which is fair enough but I don’t think that should then make it immune to criticism from others, right?
 
Huh? If it’s a minority then that means the overwhelming amount loved it which was my point. I don’t think you’ll ever find a game on here that at least some people didn’t enjoy. It’s all subjective really. You love Cyberpunk which is fair enough but I don’t think that should then make it immune to criticism from others, right?

Especially when the actual guys who made the game are saying stuff like this:

 
How do you unlock the top half of the skill tree? Been ages since I played it. Forgot that all the skill points are resettd
 
Agreed. Which is why it always amuses me when you do it.
Not really. If I had such an odd mentality I wouldn’t have gained an interest in Starfield and actually gone ahead and got an Xbox for a month to give it a go during my break-week. That it turned out to be a disappointment for me personally is another matter and it seems that’s a fairly common view anyway. Oh well, at least it gave me a chance to play Ori which was a lot of fun and Hi Fi Rush which has started well.
 
Not really. If I had such an odd mentality I wouldn’t have gained an interest in Starfield and actually gone ahead and got an Xbox for a month to give it a go during my break-week. That it turned out to be a disappointment for me personally is another matter and it seems that’s a fairly common view anyway. Oh well, at least it gave me a chance to play Ori which was a lot of fun and Hi Fi Rush which has started well.

Ori is great mate, both are, not played Hi Fi Rush myself. It seems like a spiritual successor to the (mostly) great Jet set Radio games, so let me know how you find it!

Not really much else to recommend on the Xbox off the top of my head, apart from Sea of Thieves but that depends how long you have it for. Might be worth booting it up to do the Monkey Island tall tales though! Part 1 and 2 are out and are absolutely fantastic.
 
Finding this really enjoyable. About 8 hours in so far on a new 2.0 playthrough (PC). It feels like they just made everything more fun and easier to use. The driving is a LOT better. I love that your grenades and health are now cooldown based so you don't need to farm them. Lot of fun messing around with the grenades knowing you won't run out.

I forgot how satisfying it is slicing motherfeckers up like sushi all over the city.
 
Huh? If it’s a minority then that means the overwhelming amount loved it which was my point. I don’t think you’ll ever find a game on here that at least some people didn’t enjoy. It’s all subjective really. You love Cyberpunk which is fair enough but I don’t think that should then make it immune to criticism from others, right?
Absolutely not. I mean I enjoy posting bite sized reviews in the gaming thread with pros and cons so that’s only healthy. And if a legitimate negative point here will help someone avoid a game they may have regretted buying then it’s even more useful.

My comment had more to do with a general point on the original launch - that while it should remain a cautionary tale to try and ensure developers / publishers don’t pull the fast one on gamers again (sadly they will), this specific release and video game 3 years can be judged on its own merits which I think it is, going by the review cycle.

Anyway, for those who do play PL / 2.0 and do recommend any specific build - do let me know!
 
It's just my opinion, but for me Cyberpunk was an amazing game from the start. I've never played such an immersive and aesthetically beautiful game when it got released. I didn't care much about their promises, nor did I expect a new GTA because my focus was on these 2 points from the start. I just played the story and it was a fantastic experience for me. I understand everyone who had problems with this game, who was disappointed, because CDPR didn't keep many of their promises, but I only talk about my experience here. And if you only focused on the quests and not free roaming, you didn't even notice most of the bugs. Your rating depends on your setup (PC/new or old gen. console) and what expectations you had from the game.
To be honest I couldn’t agree more. I can see the issues but for me they were always overblown. Even with the worts and all this is a brilliant game with some of the best writing in any RPG/Sandbox. There have been tonnes of games that have released with lots of polish, some of which are critically praised but which really are pretty dull after a short period. Cyberpunks world, lore, combat, writing and story were all right up my street.
 
I am having so much fun doing 2.0 Netrunner type build. I just got thermal monowire and upgraded my Control system. With the expansion I plan on getting the relic ability where you can load hacks onto the monowire with Jailbreak. I beat one of the Cyberpsychos JUST with hacks last night, hacking him, hacking explosions all around the area on him. Never did that before was fun.

Picked up one of the new free armored cars with machine guns. Won't spoil it but you pass right by it doing one of the Delmain missions. Just find the key and take it.

I think on my main pre 2.0 build I might reroll all the points into one of those dash sword builds. Those look fun. And with weapon synergy items where you swap with throwing blades and bleed effects then immediately swap to sword for the synergy.
 
I am having so much fun doing 2.0 Netrunner type build. I just got thermal monowire and upgraded my Control system. I beat one of the Cyberpsychos JUST with hacks last night, hacking him, hacking explosions all around the area on him. Never did that before was fun.

Picked up one of the new free armored cars with machine guns. Won't spoil it but you pass right by it doing one of the Delmain missions. Just find the key and take it.

I think on my main pre 2.0 build I might reroll all the points into one of those dash sword builds. Those look fun. And with weapon synergy items where you swap with throwing blades and bleed effects then immediately swap to sword for the synergy.

That’s what I’m doing atm. This is my third time trying to get into the game, the first was on release when the bugs made it unplayable for me, second time was when the show came out and I just found it boring, but third time‘s the charm, I’m really enjoying it now. Having a lot of fun being a ninja with a katana.
 
That’s what I’m doing atm. This is my third time trying to get into the game, the first was on release when the bugs made it unplayable for me, second time was when the show came out and I just found it boring, but third time‘s the charm, I’m really enjoying it now. Having a lot of fun being a ninja with a katana.
Yeah going with this too and its great fun.

I played first time round as a stealthy netrunner, so its refreshing how much quicker shit gets done by just dashing in and shinobi-ing the feck out of anything that moves :lol: