Cristiano Ronaldo

I've no clue what this post even means.
You've been like that in this thread, strangely. Don't fret, it wasn't intended for you. The person quoted in that grey box will know what it means as most likely will everyone else who reads it.
 
A typical United budget on transfer fees is upwards of £150m. Ronaldo's reported price tag is £60m and his current salary is £11.9m.

A lot of that has been financed by flogging 20+ players these last two summers. I don't see us spending £150m next summer. Woody also said recently on some investor call that transfer spending was expected to go down.

Don't want him back.He'll definitely improve us (because he's Ronaldo) but I prefer younger,hungrier player.I want to keep good memories about the young Ronaldo,not a deteriorated, transformed-into-a-poacher one.It's just feel like dating your ex-girlfriend.

I agree with this. Let's look to the future and build up our next great team with younger players to compliment the likes of Martial, Shaw, Memphis. Let's focus on spending the money on hungry up and coming players who are 25 year olds or younger, that has always been the best way to build a great team.
 
You've been like that in this thread, strangely. Don't fret, it wasn't intended for you. The person quoted in that grey box will know what it means as most likely will everyone else who reads it.

I agree with what you're saying. The idea that the club officials are infallible beacons of perfect decision-making is not only ridiculous, but been proved to be patently untrue.

Another argument I don't get is that, as fans, we shouldn't care about transfer fees. It's such an absurd notion that I struggle to even begin an exposition of how daft that view is because I feel like I shouldn't have to.
 
A lot of that has been financed by flogging 20+ players these last two summers. I don't see us spending £150m next summer. Woody also said recently on some investor call that transfer spending was expected to go down.



I agree with this. Let's look to the future and build up our next great team with younger players to compliment the likes of Martial, Shaw, Memphis. Let's focus on spending the money on hungry up and coming players who are 25 year olds or younger, that has always been the best way to build a great team.
A lot of those players were free transfers, mixed with meaningless fees and then the Di Maria fee which I would assume funded the Martial transfer. Outside of Di Maria the only players we sold for a "meaningful fee" were Kagawa and Hernandez and their combined fee couldn't cover what we paid for Blind. The way I understood Woodward's statement was that the volume of ins and outs will decrease but I didn't take it to mean that we would reduce the transfer spending. We are 2-3 players away from a really strong team but I don't there is room for a 31 year old Ronaldo in that number because what happened with Van Persie should instructive to how we approach this - he could give us one GREAT SEASON and go downhill from there on in presenting us with a headache of what to do with three aging superstars, on high wages and way past their peak. If the money is there go for a younger player and avoid disrupting our rebuild.
 
A lot of those players were free transfers, mixed with meaningless fees and then the Di Maria fee which I would assume funded the Martial transfer. Outside of Di Maria the only players we sold for a "meaningful fee" were Kagawa and Hernandez and their combined fee couldn't cover what we paid for Blind. The way I understood Woodward's statement was that the volume of ins and outs will decrease but I didn't take it to mean that we would reduce the transfer spending. We are 2-3 players away from a really strong team but I don't there is room for a 31 year old Ronaldo in that number because what happened with Van Persie should instructive to how we approach this - he could give us one GREAT SEASON and go downhill from there on in presenting us with a headache of what to do with three aging superstars, on high wages and way past their peak. If the money is there go for a younger player and avoid disrupting our rebuild.

There was also Evans who went for something like £9m, but the biggest saving was getting players like RVP, Nani, Hernandez and Falcao off the books as their wages took up a significant part of the budget.

Agree with the rest of your post though and hope you're right about Woodward's comments.
 
:lol: That's just such a poor argument. I'm sorry I can't carry on a discussion with a chap whose argument is completely based on the premise that "You're wrong because the club thinks you're wrong", as if the club has never gotten anything wrong. Ever. Bebe never happened. Di Maria for 57 million never happened. David Moyes never happened. Or wait, maybe David Moyes was the right decision, because the club made it. I mean, come on, the argument simply can't be that weak. Oh and also another thing you got wrong was that the club being interested in Ronaldo was in contradiction to my opinion. So those things you're stating as "facts" aren't actually facts. My view was related to the fee, not to signing Ronaldo. If the club is interested in signing Ronaldo, my view is aligned with theirs. Cheers for this conversation.

I don't really see how this doesn't make sense (assuming that one's read the previous posts). It isn't Shakespearean, but it definitely isn't gibberish. I'm not sure what the bit in bold is in exact reference to but the overall point is seemingly obvious.
 
You've been like that in this thread, strangely. Don't fret, it wasn't intended for you. The person quoted in that grey box will know what it means as most likely will everyone else who reads it.
Don't listen to Raoul. Your point is very clear.

And by the way, the club hasn't even made their intentions publicly known, so that argument actually has no ground on more than one level. All they are feeding off right now is a one liner by LVG which was forced upon his throat, because Ronaldo decided to toy with the United fans once again.
 
I've no clue what this post even means.
He's gone off the rails a bit. :/. A bit too much emotion involved...

It does make sense however. But discussing with him is somewhat pointless as he is way too adamant on his opinion and extremely quick to respond on here. Which suggests he wants an argument imo, and people like that do not comprise / change / resolve anything in their opinion. In my experience anyway...
 
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Ronnie needs to feel loved and at the moment there isn´t much love over at the goon headquarters in Madrid...
He will be flying once he gets his red shirt and 7 back... 3 good years and happy times!
 
I have a feeling Madrid themselves want rid of him.

Based on what? Your 'feelings'. That's about as interesting as a fart. This is based on you thinking he will leave and looking for a logical excuse. It's not that Ronaldo has had enough but if Madrid want him out - it's because they think he's 'lost' it.

I think the team spirit is gone. He probably saw the Benzema controversy and come to his senses. Where is the fun and friendship? Some nice players, but in general their mentality attracts wankers. Ronaldos a father now and I think he's probably realized he hates them lol.
 
Quite torn whether or not I'd want him at United now.
Depends on the price
Ronnie needs to feel loved and at the moment there isn´t much love over at the goon headquarters in Madrid...
He will be flying once he gets his red shirt and 7 back... 3 good years and happy times!
Probably a four or five year contract though so a year or two of flirting with Mls and sulking... Still at the right price it would be great to have him back
 
Probably the reason is that only the press wanted to buy him so he provoked all this.
It's nice to see you back,you were a long time without writing
Cheers mate. Yeah I had some papers to give. Good to be back :)
 
Not sure I'd bite. I'd rather Robben if we were getting a 32 winger.
 
Another argument I don't get is that, as fans, we shouldn't care about transfer fees. It's such an absurd notion that I struggle to even begin an exposition of how daft that view is because I feel like I shouldn't have to.

I don't really get this line of thought. We don't have unlimited resources so it's right to care about how much we spend on players as it potentially means less to spend on others, either now or in the future.
It's also annoying seeing the club regularly bent over in the transfer market.

That said, I don't care that much.
 
Worse injury record. Ronaldo would be the safer option IMO.

Was thinking the same thing. Ronaldo is rarely injured.

Anyway, as long as we don't pay another world record fee, I'd welcome him back. I'm still almost 100% confident it wouldn't happen. Moving back to rainy cold Manchester from a sunny warm Madrid? I don't know..
 
Worse injury record. Ronaldo would be the safer option IMO.

Robben is a better winger. But yes, Ronaldo gets injured less I suppose.

Ronaldo is not a game-changer like Robben though. He gets goals, but isn't the difference in a team playing well like Robben is.
 
Robben is a better winger. But yes, Ronaldo gets injured less I suppose.

Ronaldo is not a game-changer like Robben though. He gets goals, but isn't the difference in a team playing well like Robben is.
Yeah but given we're talking obscene fees for ageing stars, which I'm not entirely sure about anyway, you'd surely rather spend a decent chunk on someone you can reasonably rely on being fit.
 
Robben on the right, Ronaldo on the left. Problem solved!
 
Considering the age factor and fee real would demand, i feel that its wouldn't happen.PSG written allover it.
 
Considering the age factor and fee real would demand, i feel that its wouldn't happen.PSG written allover it.
Agree. It's perfect for them. He's exactly what they need to gain some global attention.
 
I wouldn't want him back.. i love Ronnie and is a United legend but his arrival would disrupt United's progression. I'm not saying Ronnie would be poor, guy is in good shape to go on a decent form for another 3 years so i have no doubt of his physicality to able to play in the premier league. It's his ego i have a problem with because he expects to play every game, expects the attack play to feed to him and wants to score all the goals. It's good having that kind of ego at the beginning of your career but still having it at the late of his career is annoyance when you got talented youngsters like Lingard, Memphis, Martial, Pereira even Januzaj if he does return trying to get themselves into that light but then comes Ronnie who blocks it all for himself and these youngster will just not grow. Also not to mention the asking price for him would be stupid. Guarantee. Need to purchase young, potential players who can blossom into this club or purchase ready made in-form players who are in their peak or coming to it. Need to look to the future, not the past.
 
I'm still baffled about the people saying he's in decline or past his peak, he's not 40 and players who've already peaked does not make them a bad player instantly. His peak for me was 2 years ago yet the lad just finished last season with 61 goals in 54 games, which was his best ever season in terms of goals scored and is the current WPOTY.

He's never gonna be the same player we let go or that Madrid had about 3 years ago but he scores lots goals and that wins titles. I believe if he comes back he'll win us at least 2 titles because we'll strengthen other areas too during that period and to me that's priceless.
 
I'm still baffled about the people saying he's in decline or past his peak, he's not 40 and players who've already peaked does not make them a bad player instantly. His peak for me was 2 years ago yet the lad just finished last season with 61 goals in 54 games, which was his best ever season in terms of goals scored and is the current WPOTY.

He's never gonna be the same player we let go or that Madrid had about 3 years ago but he scores lots goals and that wins titles. I believe if he comes back he'll win us at least 2 titles because we'll strengthen other areas too during that period and to me that's priceless.
Saying someone is past his peak doesn't mean he is not a top player. Ronaldo is clearly past his best. In 2011-12 he could score slightly less goals than he did last season but combined it with excellent dribbling and threat on the ball. He was evidently a better player then.
 
Baffled by the people who spend all their time saying LVG left us light up front and then wouldn't want Ronnie to come back :wenger:

He would take the team to another level in the short-term. Also, pressure would be taken off the likes of Memphis and Martial.

In the medium term those players could also learn a great deal from him - he is a greater trainer and his drive to be the best would surely be a positive influence...

Not to mention the commercial benefits of CR7 being back at the Theatre of Dreams.

Given the range of skills and physical attributes he has, he has to have a good 3-4 years left in him at the top level. From a fitness perspective he is the consummate professional and his game is not just about pace, he is tremendous with set plays, long range shooting and in the air - all areas where we are currently poor.

Would love LVG to exert his influence and bring in Muller or Robben from Bayern in the summer but Ronnie is still top of my wishlist :devil:
 
Based on what? Your 'feelings'. That's about as interesting as a fart. This is based on you thinking he will leave and looking for a logical excuse. It's not that Ronaldo has had enough but if Madrid want him out - it's because they think he's 'lost' it.

I think the team spirit is gone. He probably saw the Benzema controversy and come to his senses. Where is the fun and friendship? Some nice players, but in general their mentality attracts wankers. Ronaldos a father now and I think he's probably realized he hates them lol.
I like how you shoot down that poster for baseless 'feelings', and then proceed to give your own in the next paragraph.
 
I like how you shoot down that poster for baseless 'feelings', and then proceed to give your own in the next paragraph.

How many times you bought a lottery ticket cause you 'thought' you might win? More importantly though, as you saw I went into detail while they didn't. That's the difference and I like how you highlighted that - not to start a 'fight' and go off topic, but because you saw the difference. Good for you :)

Nothing stops a person saying what their feelings are based on. Which is why I mocked it, because no one here can read peoples minds and ultimately what we feel or imagine doesn't matter. If we all did that, no one would have a clue what anyone actually thought.
 
I'm sorry but some of the stuff I'm reading here is unbelievable so I had to ask to be sure. "Better than WC Robben", "explosive player who runs at defenses", "missing link to CL contention" ...

Tell that to these Real Madrid fans who watch him week in week out:

http://www.goallegacy.net/t38569p18-what-should-happen-official-thread#1526786
http://www.barcaforum.com/showthrea...arcelona-0-4?p=1561024&viewfull=1#post1561024
http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads...-the-cristiano-ronaldo-thread.2025769/page-18

And how likely is it that he will elevate a team that has to grind out wins against the likes of Watford to CL contention levels while he's entered his 30s and is visibly declining after winning those whooping 2 major trophies in 7 years with a far superior support cast at Madrid during his peak years? Yeah, not very likely.

Wow that's a spoilt bunch of fans. Talk about pathetic. One of them even said Suarez and Neymar were better than Ronaldo last season... Another said he's a liability when he doesn't score. Are you kidding me? :lol: This just demonstrates how awful Real Madrid fans are, to be honest.
 
How many times you bought a lottery ticket cause you 'thought' you might win? More importantly though, as you saw I went into detail while they didn't. That's the difference and I like how you highlighted that - not to start a 'fight' and go off topic, but because you saw the difference. Good for you :)

Nothing stops a person saying what their feelings are based on. Which is why I mocked it, because no one here can read peoples minds and ultimately what we feel or imagine doesn't matter.
I don't buy lottery tickets because I don't think I'll win ;)
 
Ronaldo would probably hit like 40 goals in all comps, yet people don't want him back?

Does not compute.
 
Ronaldo would probably hit like 40 goals in all comps, yet people don't want him back?

Does not compute.
It's weird, even in his decline he'd probably get us 25-30 a season. I would have him back in a heartbeat, I honestly believe we'd win the PL if he comes in January. That being said, I don't think he'll come to us.
 
Tell him not to leave the 18 yard box and get Ashley Young drilling in some of those precision crosses for him to head smash past the opposing keeper.

This football lark is proper easy.
 
Wow that's a spoilt bunch of fans. Talk about pathetic. One of them even said Suarez and Neymar were better than Ronaldo last season... Another said he's a liability when he doesn't score. Are you kidding me? :lol: This just demonstrates how awful Real Madrid fans are, to be honest.

That's pretty much true these days. When he doesn't score, there is pretty much nothing what he offers for them and their team is setup to give Ronaldo as much opportunities as possible.

Madrid fans are weird, but their Ronaldo criticism isn't that off imo. Transfermarkt ist just another forum, where Ronaldo is criticised all season, because he doesn't care and can contribute to their overall game. We always defend players like Rafael and act like we know more about United players, because we watch them every week. But when opposite fans do that, they often just described as clueless.
 
That's pretty much true these days. When he doesn't score, there is pretty much nothing what he offers for them and their team is setup to give Ronaldo as much opportunities as possible.

Madrid fans are weird, but their Ronaldo criticism isn't that off imo. Transfermarkt ist just another forum, where Ronaldo is criticised all season, because he doesn't care and can contribute to their overall game. We always defend players like Rafael and act like we know more about United players, because we watch them every week. But when opposite fans do that, they often just described as clueless.

Almost the opposite. In general, the caf thought Rafael was great, and opposition fans thought he was rubbish. Turns out opposition fans were right.

Fans let their heart rule over their head far too often.