The fact that LVG talked about it publicly actually means we're most probably not serious about it.
I'm still not convinced he'll leave Real at the end of the season, but if he does then I wish him the best of luck at PSG.
United's executives think more broadly than just a potential player contributions on the pitch; shirt sales, brand value, share price are likely all considerations.
Would be brilliant business by Madrid and would leave us looking like mugs.We'd have basically loaned him out to Madrid for his best years, and then taken him back when they've got the best out of him.
It would make us look weak, and certainly not the 'biggest club in the world'. Add to the fact he'll be 31 and on the decline, and the whole deal would be ridiculous.
Would be brilliant business by Madrid and would leave us looking like mugs.
If Ronaldo doesn't regain some form I hope we get rid of both. Bring in Lewandowski/Aguero and Hazard.
We would. How much he has to offer is debateable. Like he said you can't buy a player at the age of 31 the same price as you sold him for when his peak years began. Would be the most shoddy bit of negotiation since hat Bacardi eto'o ibra deal. Madrid have no business asking for that fee. Hopefully we're not that bad at negotiations.Not really. Especially if he still has a lot to offer.
We will only look weaker than Madrid, which we already are, so.......
We would. How much he has to offer is debateable. Like he said you can't buy a player at the age of 31 the same price as you sold him for when his peak years began. Would be the most shoddy bit of negotiation since hat Bacardi eto'o ibra deal. Madrid have no business asking for that fee. Hopefully we're not that bad at negotiations.
Will it be the same price, less or more? I was commented on a scenario where we pay as much as we received back then.Except it wouldn't necessarily be the same price. Ronaldo is still very much capable of being a top 3 player in the PL - something we haven't had since RVP in Fergie's last season and we paid 20+ million for him.
Put a 31 year old Ronaldo in our team and we are the best team in the league. 30 goals in a season will most certainly be a terrible season for him in Spain, but not in England.
Madrid have every right to demand that fee, probably even more, they are losing the biggest name in sports, and have failed to adequately replace him and they probably won't be able to in the next 5 years...... that's one hell of a loss.
There is nothing right now that suggests that we're trying to bring him back, and I don't think we will even try if we hear about the 60m price tag.Bizarre thing to say. We are clearly trying to bring him back.
He wouldn't risk any legacy. He would score a shit load of goals.A move to PSG still makes much more sense than coming back and risking his untouchable legacy at United. He gets to take Zlatan's place as the main guy up front, ridiculous salary, less competitive and physical league, score more goals and pretty much guarantee titles, and not to mention living in Paris. PSG also have Nike on their side. Unless he forces his transfer through to Manchester, why would Perez and Jorge Mendes want to do any business with United after the De Gea saga?
A move to PSG still makes much more sense than coming back and risking his untouchable legacy at United. He gets to take Zlatan's place as the main guy up front, ridiculous salary, less competitive and physical league, score more goals and pretty much guarantee titles, and not to mention living in Paris. PSG also have Nike on their side. Unless he forces his transfer through to Manchester, why would Perez and Jorge Mendes want to do any business with United after the De Gea saga?
He wouldn't risk any legacy. He would score a shit load of goals.
Will it be the same price, less or more? I was commented on a scenario where we pay as much as we received back then.
One hell of a loss? If Madrid see it as that big a loss they'll keep him. If they let him go they'll be happily letting him go, which at his age, I can see them being, given they still have a fanatastic team and will most likely go buy another two top class players to replace him. This after getting his peak years as well. We would look really daft. If we sign hopefully it's for a more apt fee.
Except it wouldn't necessarily be the same price
The other day during the premier of his movie Cristiano said that would work again with Mourinho and some days before said that wouldn't rule out any league(France)
Everything can happen in football but after last summer with De Gea I think that Madrid is not going to sell him to United,simply for a question of pride.
That is United point of view.Madrid still thinks that United hindered the transfer delaying the talks.J.A Sanchez,an expert closing deals suddenly became a clumsy?.Why? That was Madrid's fault.
If he was such an expert he wouldn't have failed to his man.That is United point of view.Madrid still thinks that United hindered the transfer delaying the talks.J.A Sanchez,an expert closing deals suddenly became a clumsy?.
PSG needs a super star,can pay a lot and have Verratti
I wasn't commenting on that price. Madrid have no right to demand more. They're selling an asset past its best.The price being reported,thrown around and used as a benchmark is £60m, which is less than we sold him for, hence:
Also have to factor in the current climate.
Madrid also have every right to demand more - as they are losing a commercial juggernaut.
It's a commercial loss - like they encountered when they sold Beckham, but it gives them room to move in another direction in terms of their squad, Ronaldo was as much an asset, as he was a liability (on the field).
Not sure how signing Ronaldo would have a negative bearing on us, other than making us look like a smaller team than Madrid, which we already are.
That is United point of view.Madrid still thinks that United hindered the transfer delaying the talks.J.A Sanchez,an expert closing deals suddenly became a clumsy?.
PSG needs a super star,can pay a lot and have Verratti
I wasn't commenting on that price. Madrid have no right to demand more. They're selling an asset past its best.
For me the history of the fax seems difficult to believe and Florentino was obviously angry with United. I had never seen him so upset with other clubs.If he was such an expert he wouldn't have failed to his man.
The commercial aspect is irrelevant as it existed in the 2008 asset except it could be used for longer at that time than one much further down the career path.If the game didn't have a commercial aspect to it, yes.
He has to be angry at United. He always gets his man and failed to. Could hardly own up to messing things up and looking bad publically. Should have been less arrogant and paid up the required fee sooner.rFor me the history of the fax seems difficult to believe and Florentino was obviously angry with United. I had never seen him so upset with other clubs.
Anyway after yesterday I also doubt about Florentino's future.Maybe United can deal with the next board,although I would spend the money in someone younger.
Probably the reason is that only the press wanted to buy him so he provoked all this.He has to be angry at United. He always gets his man and failed to. Could hardly own up to messing things up and looking bad publically. Should have been less arrogant and paid up the required fee sooner.r
The commercial aspect is irrelevant as it existed in the 2008 asset except it could be used for longer at that time than one much further down the career path.
I'm saying he was still super marketable then and they were getting the player for his best footballing years and just as much marketability given they had him for his best years. Well get him as a lesser footballer and for most likely for less time than 7 years at the very top. Do you think he'll be in our team from 31 to 38 years of age as a complete superstar? I give it 4 years max.Don't get this. Are you saying Ronaldo was more marketable in 09 than he is now? are you equating on field performances to brand value? are you rendering the commercial impact of Ronaldo's departure from Real Madrid trivial and irrelevant?
If Ronaldo doesn't regain some form I hope we get rid of both. Bring in Lewandowski/Aguero and Hazard.
I'm saying he was still super marketable then and they were getting the player for his best footballing years and just as much marketability given they had him for his best years. Well get him as a lesser footballer and for most likely for less time than 7 years at the very top. Do you think he'll be in our team from 31 to 38 years of age as a complete superstar? I give it 4 years max.
All of which makes buying him for the same fee (which was point I was in responding to initially) we sold him for daft, and gives Madrid no right IMO to expect it. Maybe from psg they can since they're desperate to attain top club status.
And it's up to me to give my opinion on that which is that it is poor business to buy him for as much as you sold him especially when tha figure is 80 million. You don't spend close to the world record fee for a 31 year old. The club will obviously make up its mind. That's irrelevant to our discussion.Ronaldo (as a brand and footballer) has transcended into a global phenomenon, You can't (and shouldn't) compare his commercial impact now to when he left for Madrid(2009) - it makes no sense.
Ronaldo still has a lot to offer and will do well to supplement our current squad, not to mention elevate our status as contenders not just on a national level, but continental, and ultimately world for the next 4 years. Which would be more than enough, really.
Considering he still has a lot to offer on the footballing side, and a hell of a lot more to offer on the commercial side, mixed with the sentimental value of the transfer - i fail to see how signing him for the reported fee(£60m), and even the fee you were responding to can be viewed as daft when it is going to have a substantial effect on our team for the next half decade.
Given his status as a commercial juggernaut, Madrid have every right to demand such an astronomical fee for his services, considering what they stand to lose. It is up to us to weigh our options and ultimately decide if he is worth that much, and judging by the proliferation of reports in recent weeks and the current situation in Madrid, i think we already have.
