Brazil now plays Uruguay in the knockout phase....that is going to be a hell of a match
Copa America 2024 - Argentina Win
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That was close from Bruno
Colombia could have won this, but lost their momentum in the second half
Colombia could have won this, but lost their momentum in the second half
Without Vini. If Dorival has any balls he'll start Endrick.
Yeap
This has to be the worst Brazilian team I've ever seen.
Their lack of cohesion and quality, bar Vini Jr, Allison and Militao, is absolutely shocking.
Their lack of cohesion and quality, bar Vini Jr, Allison and Militao, is absolutely shocking.
The Euros had lots of bad games and really bad perfomances even from huge teams too, plus some typical VAR controversies, yet at least they solve those faster
Brazil lacks movement, team work, they look slow and disjointed too many times, but they will always have enough talent to play against anyone
It’s ColOmbia, not Columbia
Pretty close match, I can’t believe Borre missed that sitter, but thankfully we finished first of our group, and now will play Panama instead of Uruguay.
That match of Brazil vs. Uruguay will be hard for both teams, I hope whoever wins is drained for the Semifinal in case we hopefully beat Panama.
I believe we can play the final. Come on COLOMBIA!
That match of Brazil vs. Uruguay will be hard for both teams, I hope whoever wins is drained for the Semifinal in case we hopefully beat Panama.
I believe we can play the final. Come on COLOMBIA!
Our midfield play is crap as well and that has plague Brazil for years IMO along with the fact that we truly have not found a replacement for R9
Brazil tend to do very good under biesla coach teams historically. We used to destroy his chile teams.
Nothing like the Copa America, it's been amazingly bad and the standards are through the floor.
And winning in 99 and 04 against Argentina too...though this last one had one of the clutchest plays ever from Adriano (after some silly wasting time from Tevez and Andres).
Dunno, watching England vs Slovakia and Portugal not being able to do sthg against Slovenia was painful to watch. France vs Belgium was also quite dire, specially Belgium and their attitude. Spain has been great, still not playing any major team, but still very entertaining. Germany the first game was fantrastic, but Scotland wasn't there.
Today I've watched a great game between Turkey and Austria, very entertainiing and "honest" match.
Ain't happening this time.
Copa América is very unnecessary anyway. We all face each other in World Cup Qualifying, unlike in Europe. Maybe for Venezuela and Bolivia it has some value, but for Brazil and, I suppose, Argentina and Uruguay it isn't much more than a burden.
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Nah, I love Regional Cups anywhere so I love Copa America, it's one of the oldest and more traditional tournaments.
Some are great, some are not, but there is always passion, some great games and lots of shithousery, it's good to keep tradtions.
On the other hand, it should be better organized, with better pitches, better tech.
The level would always depend on the period and form of the teams, the world right now it's on a generational transition regarding players and this affect every team in the world, I personally always loved the Euros too (the awesome ones like "Platini 84" and the odd ones like "Greeece 04",) same with Copas, some of them were fantastic and some games on those too. It shoudl not be only the WC.
In fact I would go as far as preffering to keep Copa and make the Tournament the way to qualify for the WC than eliminate Copa.
PD: The Nation league? well that is kind of unnecessary.
Some are great, some are not, but there is always passion, some great games and lots of shithousery, it's good to keep tradtions.
On the other hand, it should be better organized, with better pitches, better tech.
The level would always depend on the period and form of the teams, the world right now it's on a generational transition regarding players and this affect every team in the world, I personally always loved the Euros too (the awesome ones like "Platini 84" and the odd ones like "Greeece 04",) same with Copas, some of them were fantastic and some games on those too. It shoudl not be only the WC.
In fact I would go as far as preffering to keep Copa and make the Tournament the way to qualify for the WC than eliminate Copa.
PD: The Nation league? well that is kind of unnecessary.
I was at the game. Glad I went and was impressed by Columbia. Their fans definitely came out in full support
yes, i apologize for the misspelling
Semi automatic offside implementation is up to CONMEBOL…not the US
funny thing is that they have an incredibly difficult time getting Vini involved almost to a point of trying to over rely on him but they can't figure out how.....which is clearly on the coaching staff b/c they have plenty of talent just seems like there is ZERO joga bonito in how they play
just like the camera views as well....
I don’t think it’s unnecessary and I very much enjoy the Copa. Scrap it and then what? Replace it with friendlies or just don’t bother?
I think the bigger teams in Copa have played better football than in the Euros. Outside of Spain and a few games for Germany, no big Euro nation has played great football.
At least Uruguay, Colombia and Argentina have played good ball.
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They've been very good and main contenders for the title, but still a level below the best European teams.
The rest of this Copa America crop though... Yikes.
My country’s name is ColOmbia, not Columbia
Two or three friendlies against European teams, even if from their second tier, would be much more productive. Just not bothering wouldn't be bad either.
I can't see how facing the same teams again for 3-6 games will do much for yours.
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What really should get scrapped is Copa Oro. Copa América should always be played by teams of both Conmebol and Concacaf.
Colombia were the better team, really shocking how much Brazil struggle to do anything well, really.
That said: how in the name of baby jesus, buddha, and vishnu did that colossal penalty go ignored?!?!?! Defender freaking chopped Vini down ffs
That said: how in the name of baby jesus, buddha, and vishnu did that colossal penalty go ignored?!?!?! Defender freaking chopped Vini down ffs
Is it the host nation's responsibility or the federation?
For the first time in the history of the games, all group leaders in a tournament have a coach from the same country (Argentina)
- Bielsa with Uruguay
- Lorenzo with Colombia
- Batista with Venezuela
- Scaloni with Argentina
by the way, if Bielsa gets this brazilian team to play he would make them play such a good football. And even more, he would make Vinicius 10x the player he is.
- Bielsa with Uruguay
- Lorenzo with Colombia
- Batista with Venezuela
- Scaloni with Argentina
by the way, if Bielsa gets this brazilian team to play he would make them play such a good football. And even more, he would make Vinicius 10x the player he is.
They're doing a very good England impression last few years. Hard to see them getting past the QFs again at next World cup.
Can't get over how poor their full back options are nowadays as that's always been an area where they've had endless production line of World class players.
In this tournament it's Danilo, Wendell (31 year old on 4 caps), Guilherme Arana who's a 27 year old with less than 20 games when he was at Sevilla and Atalanta.
Yan Couto aswell who's had a fantastic season at Girona and really should be playing.
Yikes. Not too long ago it was Dani Alves & Maicon plus Marcelo & Felipe Luis.
Whoosh!
Everything can can change from now on, Argentina might go out against Ecuador, but so far? I don't see that level below in comparison. In fact some of the best goals in Copa have been great team work ones instead of the ones in the Euro that went from a moment of individual brilliance to even an incredible ammount of own goals.
Spain it's the only team that played great every game but against not precisly top opp, far from it (EDIT: my bad I forgot about Croatia, I've kept my original statment, but I was wrong, still they look a bit fragile on the break with some luck that they didn't receive some goals, nevertheless sgreat to see them bet for so many cool youngsters). France has been playing mediocre (great with Holland in those first 25 minutes of their clash and Holland even slightly better than France in those 25), England awuful, Belgium better not say it, Germany the one I want to win, great against the Scots, not that much against the Danish. Holland great yesterday, even Poland that it's ina very low point complicate big boys.
The best (even) match so far was given by Turkey vs Austria.
Also in recent times, Brazil beat England, Colombia beat Spain and Germany, overall I think that precisly the teams in Europe with best "ranking" are performing under their best level, while Big boys that were performing bad like Spain and Germany are regaining form, while the smaller Nations more tarditional ones are not playing good (Poland, Croatia, etc) and some "smaller" like Turkey, Austria and Gerogia from great to quite good (teh same can be said about Venezuela or Panama) so it's a very similar scenario in America, but with less teams involved.
It's a transitional period, that it's reflecting at club level and at NT team level, but we are start to witness good things to come, newer generatiosn and this final stages from both competitions might end being quite great, let's hope so.
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I agree, Danilo being the Captain it's not a good sign. They shoudl also start more Endrick and Savio.
The thing is that Bruno G it's more focus on marking than doing his usual double work and Oaqueta as a 10 it's not precisly great.
So the lack of cohesion and work makes them look bad. Still a couple of adjustments, a more dinamic approach and they can compete and win against anyone, even not being a Super Brazil, that BTW, not always worked in the past too, because TEAMS win, list of names, very rarely.
You want to replace Copa with a couple of friendlies with second tier Euro teams?.
Our Federations need their own Cup, it's even older than the Euros, it was very disorganized many times, but certainly even in its worse state is better than a couple of friendlies against Poland.
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Argentinian coaches are just too good. Our best ever coach, Pekernan, was also from Argentina, and Lorenzo is following on his steps, after the disastrous Rueda spell (Colombian coaches are worthless).
I love Pekerman, he is one of the foundations of the current Colombia, Venezuela and even Argentina, his influence is fantastic, such a great lad to manage youngsters and NTs, he should have coach us in 2010, really sad that he felt so bad after 2006 that he didn't want to.