You would think the powers that be at UEFA are probably secretly hoping the PL are able to do what they weren’t able to
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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Because the FA have feck all to do with this, now if it had said PL lawyers then I'd agree
But this current hearing has nothing to do with CAS?
It's not a CAS though is it, if they are shown to be lying then the PL can make it part of the punishement, but in a legal sense it's irrelevant
This isn't any clearer. This is an independent commission. What have CAS got to do with it?
Maybe the logic is that they've given answers to CAS on the record and if they contradicted those answers in this case, then it could prove they lied to CAS thereby they committed perjury? No idea if any of that is true or makes sense.
When will the verdict be decided?
For thy lawyer is a cnut to who I doth verily bite my own thumb at.
What was it that Shakespeare said about lawyers...
I didn't do well in English lit.
Probably well hung!
Says sometime before season end, then there will most likely be appeals delaying the final outcome. Hopefully it’s all done and dusted before next season starts.
Neither did I but that sounds about right
"Lord Pannick" 
All those coaches deserve those titles to their name though. It was blatant and relentless cheating that took them away from their CVs and the clubs fans.
They deserve them, as do Klopp and Arteta. They had phenomenal seasons, and got absolutely nothing because one team hadn’t played by the same rules for 15 years.
It’s absolutely massive and can’t be understated.
One of the reasons it has been delayed is because City were fighting to keep additional evidence from the PL but the PL won and gained access to City's emails and text messages. So the PL have more than UEFA did and legit from a legal perspective.
Not to be the arbiter of what people can and can't post, but for all the people who keep coming in and saying "They'll get away with it. The PL won't do anything" etc etc. on every page, you really aren't adding anything to the discussion. I get that it's probably a defense mechanism to avoid the disappointment if it actually goes that way that nothing happens to city, but there's been a lot of very detailed stuff posted that suggest there is every chance that city might actually get properly punished for this. Particularly now that the hearing has actually started, would it not be worth it to just see how things go rather than continuing the same doomposting over and over?
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best
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Yes, exactly what I think. They have had years and years to refine their defense and have enough money to hire the most capable lawyers.
In a sense, while we were all waiting for the verdict, at least there was a suspicion of wrong doing.
In the event they get off, they can laugh at the rest of us.
And Shamima Begum - unsuccessfully.
Funny I've been hearing pretty much this, with a two window ban on foreign transfers.
In the unlikely scenario where City are found guilty,..Any idea what might be the repercussions be with regards to the Champions League?
Who from?
No, Relegation.
My guess is they will be found guilty of maybe 10 charges and get a 30-40 point deduction and a fine.
They will be back to winning titles again in a couple seasons.
They will be back to winning titles again in a couple seasons.
FootballGuru4Real on twitter.
My worry too is some punishment that’s easily sidestepped, such as a fine, transfer ban or small point deduction that’s only impactful in the short term.
What good is a transfer ban when you’ve already assembled the best squad on earth through illegal means? They need to address the fact that without their cheating, there is no Pep, no Haaland, no treble and no PL dominance.
Probs. I wish an epl title or two stripped if quite a few charges are proven.
Whatever the case, we won't actually get any answers until next year right?
Yes. Way into next year.
"and it's a 5th Premier League for Manchester City, a huge honour"
*music starts playing*
"What's this?!"
"It's Chief Justice Farnworth with The Court Documents in the Bank Briefcase!"
*music starts playing*
"What's this?!"
"It's Chief Justice Farnworth with The Court Documents in the Bank Briefcase!"
Their fans are hyping up their lawyers on Twitter
If they get them off then Sky could run a reel before the start of their programmes with them celebrating outside of court (in slowmotion of course), as they'll be biggest club legends they've ever had if they get them off this.
Maybe City fans could don some court room wigs before their games to gee them up a bit more.
It would be objectively good for the game in many ways if they were properly punished. I totally agree that they should be expelled from the league and have all titles won in the 10 year period stripped but I doubt it.
The worst that will happen for them is maybe a 3rd of the charges stick but they repeal it which will take another year and then half of them will be overturned.
Almost certainly but you won't deter them.
Lord Panic with the clothesline on The Chief!
The best duo in the biz. Pannick ‘n’ Sued
I wonder how much will City's brand suffer if they're found guilty, or is it just a sign of the modern game that makes me think most players won't care? Pep has stated he will leave, so that's a good start I guess.
That guy on the left looks like he's about to ask for your ID