Ah that's probably why ineos want to keep ETH, they probably see a similar use for him at some point
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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I hear Fodens in the back row with his most intimidating nasty boy face on
nah. unrelated. he’s in the dock afterwards for nicking a bike outside nisa.
I dont think it is legally inadmissable, it was only struck off by UEFA because it was time barred
They’re the fecking LittlefingersBluemoon
They still think they are the good guys...
Do we know if either the PL or City know who the independent commission panel members are?
More like the S
Bluemoon
When this is all over and all the smoke has cleared, Masters & the red shirts will have to look us in the eyes. It will be like ‘Battle of the Bastards’ in Game of Thrones where Ramsey Bolton comes face to face with Jon Snow.
Well, when you think about it; Ramsey came from nothing to build a dynasty, loved his dogs, and inspires others to follow his cause. Jon Snow is a silver spooned, personality vacuum who is into incest and does the same move in attack every damn time.
Good point.
Didn't realise that Pannick represented Boris Johnson in Partygate. Good to hear.
At least Donald Trump at the bottom right looks like he's finally found a well fitting wig.
Just pretend for a second, that probably the biggest case against cheating in the history of english football was about to start, but it was against Manchester United.
Don't even pretend there would be such utter silence. I say this understanding that things cant be said or alleged, but it barely even makes a headline on some football sites
Don't even pretend there would be such utter silence. I say this understanding that things cant be said or alleged, but it barely even makes a headline on some football sites
Interesting snippet from Delaney's article in the Independent
They can certainly both give them a 200pts deduction, and expell them outright. What would happen City in relations to the Nationwide would be a result of the deals in place between PL and the EFL, and wether EFL would take some separate action towards City outside of that. Given the cost and scope of the PL’s action against City, I somehow find it hard to believe the EFL would be able to do something similar.
Either way, this shouldn’t be relevant to the PL, who are not responsible for their member clubs’ dealings with other organizations like the EFL. They need to have consequences within their organization to at all stay organized.
For me it's the 35 charges of failure to cooperate with an investigation that is the most damming of all the charges. It's one thing to fudge some rules or financial statements, you can hide behind all sorts of excuses for them. But once you are found out you just have to fess up rather than aggressively hinder an investigation - in any sort of other situation each one would surely be a relegation offence.
I honestly think they should face a lengthy ban from the premier league - as in decades if all 35 charges of failure to cooperate are proven.
Also in the Independent
Ramsey is himself a silver-spooned numpty. The show made a huge error killing off the ice-cold Roos Boulton, and having Joffrey 2 carry the can.
Not the last mistake they made, either.
Aye, certainly true.
I think they should get a points deduction that ends with relegation. Their story has been one of cumulative gains, and without the intial cheating that led to mancini, toure, aguero etc, you dont get de bruyne, you dont get guardiola, you simply cant have a decade of dominance that ends with the PL looking like to SPL, without that initial cheating. titles should be stripped, but wont be.
Yeah, I don't know how this will translate into punishment but the failure to cooperate charges seem both pretty open-and-shut (they simply refused to comply with requests for documents for years) and difficult for the PL to let slide with a slap on the wrist. If the precedent is set that clubs can just refuse to cooperate with any investigation without fear of meaningful sanction, who is going to cooperate in the future?
The leaking roof at OT has practically been a bigger story in the media over the last 2 years.
Their fans are hyping up their lawyers on Twitter 
The fecking state of that
The fecking state of thatTheir fans are hyping up their lawyers on Twitter
Yeah, neck and neck. Guardiola being their manager is a big part of it, though I suspect there is some royal treatment given to journalists by city.
The worst thing any set of fans has ever done in the PL.
Someone needs to do a study on their fans.
Like a hive mind with the collective iq of a roll of sellotape.
This never fails to make me laugh, a banner for a lawyer! What a bunch of fecking weirdos
My point is that a points deduction, no matter how large, isn't actually relegating them directly. In that instance, I don't think the EFL have any real recourse to prevent them entering the Championship.
I do think the EFL (and the National League, Northern Premier League, etc.) would have an argument for rejecting their entry if the Premier League just outright disqualified them and expelled them from the league. In those circumstances they're effectively in limbo, and need to seek re-entry into the pyramid wherever they can. However, this is also not direct relegation.
https://www.blackstonechambers.com/barristers/lord-pannick-kc/
These quotes about him (Lord Pannick) on his own profile perfectly encapsulate what is wrong with humans as a species. How the feck can you take yourself this seriously.
The Lord things never ceases to crack me up. How is anyone outside of Star Wars still a lord.
These quotes about him (Lord Pannick) on his own profile perfectly encapsulate what is wrong with humans as a species. How the feck can you take yourself this seriously.
The Lord things never ceases to crack me up. How is anyone outside of Star Wars still a lord.
Hasn't really been too many scandals in English football. More recent ones have been lower league betting syndicates.
One previous case of match fixing involved Utd, 1915 game vs Liverpool. Helped save Utd from relegation, although WW1 put a stop to football anyway, I think. From memory the proven perpetrators were banned for life, but had them overturned after the war in recognition of their war time service.
There was another one where Billy Meredith paid some Aston Villa players to lose a game, he was playing for City at the time. Funnily enough, he also played in the Liverpool fixed game but wasn't implicated. So, they have previous for cheating. Even more reason to throw the book at them.
They should spread the points deduction over the number of seasons in which irregularities occurred ie 2009-2023 which is 14 seasons. so 80 points deduction the first season, 75 the next season they are in the PL, 70 the next etc. That way they might yo-yo 2 or 3 times between PL and Championship and thereafter if they managed to stay in PL, they wouldn’t be able to qualify for European football for several more seasons. If there is leniency, they could cap the punishment at 14 years.
3 points for every charge sounds about right.
Anything short of stripping domestic titles won in affected seasons is a slap on the wrist.
I said it before, they will be off the hook in few months. Reason: technicalities, small prints and other petty shite.
I still find it hard to believe that the Premier League will have capacity to convince an independent hearing of City’s guilt. I expect they will escape any serious punishment.
Even a relegation will only be a bump in the road for a year, hands the title to Arsenal when at time of all the alleged offences it was other teams who missed out on titles. The damage has been in terms of them building themselves up in terms of revenue etc, this is all a bit too late.
Even a relegation will only be a bump in the road for a year, hands the title to Arsenal when at time of all the alleged offences it was other teams who missed out on titles. The damage has been in terms of them building themselves up in terms of revenue etc, this is all a bit too late.
If they got relegated, every team in the country would sue them. Stoke, Sunderland, United, Arsenal, Everton, Chelsea, everyone. The money these clubs missed out on be it 4th place finishes or cup finals is astronomical. They need to be found guilty and then it'll really start.
I don't really see how they can get away with the 35 charges of failing to cooperate.
Given that Everton were literally deducted points after cooperating with an investigation, the hammer really needs to come down on City for those at the very least.