[RedDevilCanuck]

Bruno has been the best signing since van persie. You can take your rage out against the likes of casemiro, mount, Shaw, hojlund, maguire who have all been terrible signings but go after the one player that makes us tick. Bruno had a poor game but he put a sitter on the plate for Garanacho today, that's how important he is. Plus unlike mount and Shaw he stays fit.

We don't "tick". That's the problem. He's the common denominator.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Why doesn't the coaching staff drop Bruno and start Eriksen if Bruno is so shit.

Good question. Bruno has started every game for FOUR managers now.

 

[edgecutter]

We don't "tick". That's the problem. He's the common denominator.

And what would you suggest to replace him with?

Bruno becoming the target for vitriol is laughable considering the horrendous shite in our squad that have done nothing but pick up a pay check.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Good question. Bruno has started every game for FOUR managers now.

Because better managers than us know he’s our best player, top scorer, top assist maker and top creator of chances. Without him, we are a relegation side.

See Newcastle at home this season.

 

[Hammondo]

Slipped more than Gerrard today, but Bruno isn't the problem.

He clearly is one of the bigger ones.

 

[Hammondo]

Why doesn't the coaching staff drop Bruno and start Eriksen if Bruno is so shit.

Fitness I would imagine.

 

[edgecutter]

He clearly is one of the bigger ones.

The biggest problem today was Onana and garnacho not being able to hit a barn door.

 

[Hammondo]

Hope Bruno does leave and then we can see how brilliant we are without him. He deserves to finish his career with a good club. I would wish him all the best and have a smile on my face when he shows how good he is with better players around him.

No good club would buy him.

 

[GL21]

capable of magic but now his risk vs reward isn't worth it. maybe because he's much less of a 10 now but far far too wasteful especially in a side where every other moron is fairly expert at that.

 

[flameinthesun]

I think he tried his best. I'm not his biggest fan but he was spraying passes about, put in a shift up and down. Just so little you can do as a creative player when you look up and there are hardly any options to pass to. For what little creativity these tactics allow, he did well.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Fitness I would imagine.

So the reason why Bruno starts every game is because he can run?

Surely if Bruno is so shit, Collyer should be starting in his place as he can also run?

Or is it just 4 managers in a row who are all somehow terrible talent identifiers?

In every game Bruno has missed since he got here, Utd has put in a lower league performance.

We are below average with him, yes. Without him… we are championship standard.

 

[Hammondo]

So the reason why Bruno starts every game is because he can run?

Surely if Bruno is so shit, Collyer should be starting in his place as he can also run?

Or is it just 4 managers in a row who are all somehow terrible talent identifiers?

In every game Bruno has missed since he got here, Utd have put in a lower league performance.

We are below average with him, yes. Without him… we are championship standard.

The reason Bruno has played so much is because he's had no competition.

Collyer is injured.

We also have a lack of 10s.

 

[Lewnited]

I don't even rate him highly but good lord we're doing everything possible to play to all of his weaknesses

 

[lost7]

He's definitely deserved his 300k contract this season

 

[matsdf]

He' been our captain through our darkest period, it’s time for him to leave now.

 

[Frostie]

He's better suited for a slower league where players of his limited strength/speed/power can thrive. I don't even think Iniesta would look good in this United team as there's no protection for a playmaker of a smaller/lighter stature. He needs at least one enforcer around him, and when that player is the slow as treacle Casemiro then he's toast.

I don't like the guy myself, find him a very whingy, cynical footballer like Robertson at Liverpool - but he's a very good footballer when in the right environment.

He's just too slow and lightweight to be doing what's expected of him. The Hollywood passes barely ever come off either, and that'd be easier for him somewhere like La Liga where he'd have more time on the ball to pick his spot.

I agree with the OP, he should be sold. He's not one of United's biggest issues, far from it, but he is the captain, on high wages and rapidly reaching the age of regression, so they should cash in on him and move for a more dynamic ATM that isn't so easily bullied out of games and doesn't look like his boots are made from tungsten whenever the pace of a game is rapid.

 

[Fenômeno]

Can't play CM so on the manager too.

 

[Hammondo]

He's better suited for a slower league where players of his limited strength/speed/power can thrive. I don't even think Iniesta would look good in this United team as there's no protection for a playmaker of a smaller/lighter stature. He needs at least one enforcer around him, and when that player is the slow as treacle Casemiro then he's toast.

I don't like the guy myself, find him a very whingy, cynical footballer like Robertson at Liverpool - but he's a very good footballer when in the right environment.

He's just too slow and lightweight to be doing what's expected of him. The Hollywood passes barely ever come off either, and that'd be easier for him somewhere like La Liga where he'd have more time on the ball to pick his spot.

I agree with the OP, he should be sold. He's not one of United's biggest issues, far from it, but he is the captain, on high wages and rapidly reaching the age of regression, so they should cash in on him and move for a more dynamic ATM that isn't so easily bullied out of games and doesn't look like his boots are made from tungsten whenever the pace of a game is rapid.

Iniesta was a whole other level, he thrived against the press.

 

[engie92]

On some days he could be our best player and let's be honest. After his arrival he is our best player. I can't see how he should work in Amorim system.

 

[RedIan]

Had a shocker. So frustrating. No composure on the ball, constantly squandering possession. He needs to go back to being a 10.

 

[Giggsy13]

No need to say thanks with his pay cheque.

 

[NZT-One]

If we had finishers in this team Bruno would have playstation assist stats.

Will be fantastic, when we finally have football multiverses. But I am sure, you'll still find a tweet about the guy.

Thought he was good. Actually think Cas and Bruno had a decent second half.

Yeah very decent. Because Tottenham dropped off and waited for counters which worked quite well. Our CM was not good at all, weak and slow, how often was Bruno just brushed off in 2nd half? At least 5 or 6 times.

He is a piss weak AM having to play in CM because we have nobody with at least average passing for that position. Either play him up front or don't play him at all. Or when you play him, surrender the ball willingly to opposition from the start and go for the bus and counters. Our midfield options are still very problematic. Every notion to somehow find ways to incorporate Bruno there are absolutely futile and a waste of time. Bad enough, that we now have to find ways to make it work for the coming weeks but everybody who plans with him in that positions is beyond hopeless

 

[Flying high]

This thread is a moron that knows nothing about football.

 

[Albo]

We not going anywhere with this guy as captain . No midfielder that’s for sure , can’t press , can’t tackle , no fast , keep losing possession x10 minimum a game etc .

 

[Scandi Red]

Both good and bad today.

4 key passes
6 tackles
2 interceptions
78.3% pass accurracy
103 touches (almost twice the team average)

Some of the missed passes were very sloppy though.

 

[Stobzilla]

He's crap and we are stuck with him.

 

[Livewire1974]

Us playing something resembling football is even a rarer occurrence, hard to believe 1 player can make a difference here.

He is a big reason for that.

 

[DWelbz19]

He’s not got a place in any side that doesn’t play with two midfielders behind him and let him run around and do wild stuff. But even then the juice ain’t worth the squeeze anymore.

 

[Roboc7]

He’s not got a place in any side that doesn’t play with two midfielders behind him and let him run around and do wild stuff. But even then the juice ain’t worth the squeeze anymore.

Yeah we’ve seen his peak already and it would make sense to move him on in the summer in lots of ways. Then you remember the lack of funds and huge gaps and see why he probably sees out his contract.

 

[pascell]

Both good and bad today.

4 key passes
6 tackles
2 interceptions
78.3% pass accurracy
103 touches (almost twice the team average)

Some of the missed passes were very sloppy though.

Missed passes? He took a free kick deep in Spurs half and it didn't even reach their box, then he got the ball back straight away and failed to make the box again.

 

[Scandi Red]

Missed passes? He took a free kick deep in Spurs half and it didn't even reach their box, then he got the ball back straight away and failed to make the box again.

Does this contradict the last part of my post?

I specifically wrote that some of his missed passes were sloppy and your response is examples of sloppy passes.

 

[Pscholes18]

I think that's basically nailed on at this point. Those who think we will magically improve afterwards are in for a rude awakening.

That is fine with me, but they would need to bring someone in this summer to replace him....someone who can excel in the 343.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

The teams flaw is that it’s built around Bruno as our only creative outlet. Hes very inconsistent with the basics.

Today was awful.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Insane thread. asked to be a defensive engine and the only creative outlet in the worst coached united team in 10+ years. didn't hit his usual standards which is give or take the most creative top flight player in europe.

 

[LeonDion]

Both good and bad today.

4 key passes
6 tackles
2 interceptions
78.3% pass accurracy
103 touches (almost twice the team average)

Some of the missed passes were very sloppy though.

Sounds like he had a really good game…

 

[LeonDion]

Insane thread. asked to be a defensive engine and the only creative outlet in the worst coached united team in 10+ years. didn't hit his usual standards which is give or take the most creative top flight player in europe.

Disagree

 

[NZT-One]

That is fine with me, but they would need to bring someone in this summer to replace him....someone who can excel in the 343.

Lets not box ourselves in when there isn't a specific need to do so. Bruno isn't just "not good" for us because he doesn't excel in 343. His skill profile has been an issue in other systems as well and would be in other formations just as much. He doesn't represent a very modern player, usually players that occupy the central attacking spaces are nimble on the ball and have quick feet, they need that to deal with pressure which is more or less a default defensive tactic for most teams and can pick shots and pass. Bruno can do the latter two to a mostly very good level but he is really bad in the first one. And he combines it with being rather weak so he definitely struggles on the ball when space gets congested. Doesn't mean he is a bad player per se but in the current game, you have to adapt the team to not get exploited for those weaknesses and to maximize his undeniable strenghts.

An alternative player wouldn't even have to be as good in passing as him (would obviously be great if he would) but as long as some of the weaknesses are covered, it opens up different ways to play which is, what we finally have to do - because it is safe to say that no United fan wants to continue to watch such bad football for the forseeable future even if we could stabilize results along the way.

His successor doesn't have to be "as good as him" or "excel in 343" - lets not make it more difficult than it is.

btw: what happened to the other thread? I thought threads get locked but this one was deleted, which is a bit of a shame for everybody who took time to write posts...

 

[Devil81]

Has anyone got a statistic for how many times he lost us the ball with a poor pass?

Getting ridiculous now, he turns over possession so often I'd say at least half or the goals we've conceded this season have started from a loose pass he's made resulting in a turn over of play.

 

[Frostie]

Iniesta was a whole other level, he thrived against the press.

Agreed, a majestic player, but put him in this United side and he'd struggle. He was press resistant, but he'd still need players to leave him some space to work in, and of course people to pass the ball to that knew how to get into the right positions at the right time.

I've seen Bruno a lot of times and you can see he's always looking for runners, and there often aren't any, so he has to resort to a Hollywood pass which won't always come off. Watching him for Portugal, it's like he's a different player. He always looks dangerous because his teammates are on his wavelength, which is crazy considering how little international players get together yet he's training with his club mates 3-5 times a week.

Having Messi, Xavi,, Mascherano, Busquets etc around Iniesta definitely made his job a lot simpler and with decent teammates a great player will look amazing. I think Bruno would have looked World class in that side, and I think he'd look really good for the current side.

 

[JakeC]

No good club would buy him.

Muck.

Chelsea, Milan, PSG, Villa, Napoli, Marseille, Juventus, Benfica, Seville, Forrest, Inter. Have all took players from us who were cast offs.

Bruno starts for any club really