Exactly. Even if they name 4 or 5 better (in their opinion) it still means he’s amongst the best.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, is claiming Bruno is one of the best United players of all time. Mental.
There is enough chatter in his "legend" thread to at least kind of get the impression though. And there were quite a few on here to talk about him being able not only to go into all teams in the league but also having a role during SAFs success period around 2007 to 2010. I mean, obviously some of that is hyperbole and with an explanation, it isn't crazy but I can see where the impression comes from.
Genuine question: did Bruno do something to hurt you in real life? Your obsession with him is odd.
Just fyi, another instance of you getting personal as first reply. Just wanted to point out because I remember a post where you were befuddled at the accusation.
Well, it equates to living in a round world as opposed to a flat one. And yeah, to answer another post I coached and people paid some decent money to have their kids play under me. It's not that I am not a Bruno fan as much as I am a United fan. Again the reality is, this team just does not match up to the teams under SAF. Sorry, that is the bench mark I have set for expectations. Player for player, they are where they are for a reason. Bruno is more problem than solution. Who hangs with Spur and Arsenal fans or non United fans? Pretty much everyone. These are guys I beer league with and we all have some history with the game. The best comment I received, "who is better than Bruno in the league", really? At the very least there are 14 teams who have better midfielders, strikers, defenders and keepers than United.
Well fair enough, but I am sure, you can see why people struggling with you comparing the current team to the most successful team in Uniteds history and then subsume that this means that every individual player is "above average" at best.
I am the last one who could be considered Bruno fanclub and I think, criticism is oddly weird perceived on some days, but your form of criticism is just bluntly helpless. There are enough things to criticise and I would definitely agree, that Bruno is held in regards that are a LOT lot higher than most other football fans but not being the greatest still doesn't make him "above average". He has the numbers to show for it - the criticism is "at what costs have those numbers maybe be generated" and "what do you have to give to afford a player like that in your team".
His long term future is centre midfield. His lack of pace and intelligence could genuinely see him playing for years at the top level. Like a Scholes and Carrick did. Ugarte and Bruno with a new number 10 would be fantastic.
It really wouldn't. This clamouring has to die - being the best passer doesn't mean, he is a great CM, a very good performance against Liverpool might be an indicator but certainly not evidence. Carrick was much better in terms of defensive contribution and I'd say Scholes was definitely more positionally disciplined than Bruno. I can see rooting for him in CM right now due to no competition but going forward into the future with it, that would be crazy. Bruno can be great player as AM, play him there, don't drag him around in an effort to stuff as much firepower into the team as possible. Haven't you learned the lesson about that?
When I looked through the stats of the other players 3 things surprised me:
1. Bruno only has 5 fewer assists than Scholes!
And that's with roughly half as many appearances.
2. Bruno has already scored more goals than Beckham.
3. Rashford, for all his (deserved) criticism, is almost top 5! And if he makes it back to the pitch and stays for a few more years then he's pretty much guaranteed to make top 3. That deserves some respect.
about 1. why is that crazy? Isn't Scholes time as DLP at least just as long as his days as AM? Bruno played borderline striker especially in his first two years here and adding to goals and assists is his main contribution to the team. That wasn't the same for Scholes.
about 2. see 1, also Beckham wasn't seen as a goal scorer, was he? Take goal scoring away and Bruno becomes a significantly less attractive option, he'd still have the assists sure but Beckham has those too