[Amar__]

What is it with this guy?, as soon as the camera had him on screen I was thinking we're losing this.



Funny enough I was in a YT rabbit hole at 2am far from sober and I found this.

This is what I've been posting about, i seen him do this vs Crystal Palace today.

Excellent video. Of course some situations are overstated, especially for the goals conceeded, I woudln't blame him for every situation showed, but most of these things are obvious from watching our games. He is big problem he for us defensively, there is a reason people go on our defenders so free for years and it's because our midfield is non existant, and Bruno is the only constant for all these years. Headless chicken without the ball.

 

[dubplate warrior]

Perplexing how people can't see how his inhibitions holds a team back.

 

[Scandi Red]

Headless chicken without the ball.

I have not seen the video, but if he's a headless chicken then how come:

1. He has nearly 3 times as many tackles + interceptions per 90 minutes than his AM peers

2. He consistently finds space for himself everywhere on the pitch

That does not sound like a headless chicken for me. Of course he will be caught off guard some times, but that doesn't mean that this is what defines him.

I would argue that Bruno's off the ball movement is his second strongest attribute after chance creation. He's not physically strong and he's fairly easy to dribble, and yet he keeps getting good defensive numbers. Why do you think that is? Because he keeps showing up at the right place at the right time.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Easily easily one of our better players and the shit he gets is unreal. We’d have been mid table long before now if he didn’t play for us

That's very reductive and simplistic. Being one of the better players for a shite side, isn't the endorsement some seem to think. You could argue if we moved on years ago from trying to build sides around the likes of Maguire, Bruno and Rashford, we may well be far better off.

 

[Amar__]

I have not seen the video, but if he's a headless chicken then how come:

1. He has nearly 3 times as many tackles + interceptions per 90 minutes than his AM peers

2. He consistently finds space for himself everywhere on the pitch

That does not sound like a headless chicken for me. Of course he will be caught off guard some times, but that doesn't mean that this is what defines him.

I would argue that Bruno's off the ball movement is his second strongest attribute after chance creation. He's not physically strong and he's fairly easy to dribble, and yet he keeps getting good defensive numbers. Why do you think that is? Because he keeps showing up at the right place at the right time.

1. Can you post these stats?

2. Off the ball I meant when opponents have the ball, not when his teammates have the ball.

You should probably watch the video.

 

[Zlatan 7]

That's very reductive and simplistic. Being one of the better players for a shite side, isn't the endorsement some seem to think. You could argue if we moved on years ago from trying to build sides around the likes of Maguire, Bruno and Rashford, we may well be far better off.

I’m not using it as an endorsement but there’s plenty of players to waste negative energy on before Bruno imo.

 

[Scandi Red]

1. Can you post these stats?

2. Off the ball I meant when opponents have the ball, not when his teammates have the ball.

1. See below (from roughly 1 month ago)

2. I was thinking about both. It's difficult to tackle and intercept when your team has the ball.

Tackles + interceptions per 90:
Bruno: 2.9
Ødegaard: 1.2
Palmer: 1.1
De Bruyne: 0.8

Dispossessed + unsuccessful touches per 90 (the lower the better, obviously):
De Bruyne: 2.4
Bruno: 2.5
Palmer: 2.8
Ødegaard: 3.1

 

[Red00012]

Spent the day moaning at the ref , and coming far too deep to collect the ball

 

[Dominos]

Against any decent side I think he has to play as a 10 rather than midfield. The problem is it feels like we miss out on something playing him there because he's got no pace and can't dribble, which isn't great for an attacker. However if we had a striker that was actually a goal threat and made the right runs, had an attacking LWB who had pace athleticism and could dribble, and an attacking RWB who had pace athleticism and could dribble, having Bruno a your passer in attack picking out the runs of those around him might actually work. Currently we have none of those.

I'm still not his biggest fan though and would love to be in a position to move on from him, but almost every spot in the team is a problem area and needs a new signing, so there's no chance we're getting rid of one of the few players who occasionally does something useful.

 

[Musclehead]

I keep banging on like a broken clock but my first post upon ETH arrival said that if he will persist making Bruno focal point of the team (like Ole) he will get sacked, and that was my first reaction to Amorim’s appointment unless he bins him in the summer or reduces him to a squad player he won’t survive this calendar year. Absolute disgrace of the captain and a very weak player both physically and technically.

Hold on a second, some people on here think he is better than Paul Scholes. It is hilarious to listen to the delusionals about how great this guy is.

Just as a comparison,

Paul Scholes
2 Champions League Titles
11 Premier League titles
4 FA Cup titles
5 Super Cup titles

Bruno Fernandes
1 Nations League
1 FA Cup
1 English League

Wow that is like saying a Volkswagen is better than a Ferrari. The sooner this guy is gone, the sooner things start moving in the right direction. He epitomizes all that is wrong with this team. Poor talent throughout.

 

[lost7]

Hold on a second, some people on here think he is better than Paul Scholes. It is hilarious to listen to the delusionals about how great this guy is.

I have never heard anyone say he's better than Scholes, what kind of nonsensincal comparison are you coming out with here?

There is literally not a single player in this team that can compete with our main 11s back in SAF's era

 

[Baneofthegame]

The issue for me with Fernandes is he has zero pace and can’t beat a man for the most part, there were times today where he occupied the left flank and couldn’t progress the ball, it’s an issue throughout the team to be fair, outside of Mainoo and Garnacho.

 

[UnitedRepublic]

He won’t fit in Amorims system after the summer if we get a 10 for the left and another solid midfielder. He will have his uses but not as a definate starter.

 

[Musclehead]

What is it with this guy?, as soon as the camera had him on screen I was thinking we're losing this.



Funny enough I was in a YT rabbit hole at 2am far from sober and I found this.

This is what I've been posting about, i seen him do this vs Crystal Palace today.

Thank you for posting this! This is the real Bruno Fernandes, the one that drives me absolutely bonkers every time I see him play. I would bet this was edited from the original 2.5 hrs down to 25 min. There you it have people, my thoughts that someone had enough time to put onto a video. Please send this to Ratcliffe so perhaps they can see what they have. Unfortunately this just changed his transfer value from the original 60 mil down to 10 mil! Good bye, Good luck and Good riddance!

 

[Greck]

If we are to build a title winning team with him as an integral part of the core those are the types of matches he needs to be separating himself from the chaff. On bad days it should be clear who's elevating who

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

We should probably cash in on him in the summer while he still has some value.

 

[El Jefe]

Surely we can’t go into next season moving him between CM and the wide playmaker roles.

He might be our best player but what’s the point of him if he’s not good enough to hold down a spot in one position on the pitch. I think everyone fans and the club included know he’s not a CM or wide playmaker so this should only be a short term solution.

I’ve been one of the ones that’s wanted Bruno sold for a while but I’ve at least seen why there’s a debate about it. If Amorim stays then I honestly can’t see the point of Bruno. Especially with how badly we need to retool, selling Bruno would be the easiest way to raise funds and bring in specialists for the positions he’s been playing.

Your best player always has a fixed position in the team, with changes being for one off tactical games. If your best player is constantly playing different positions within the same season then he’s just not that good.

 

[Xeque_279]

It's always the same trend here. Bruno was far from the worse player out there, but he gets so much blame. He's our best CM in terms of ball progression with passing and he's also toned down his erratic behaviour a lot when playing there.

 

[Xeque_279]

Surely we can’t go into next season moving him between CM and the wide playmaker roles.

He might be our best player but what’s the point of him if he’s not good enough to hold down a spot in one position on the pitch. I think everyone fans and the club included know he’s not a CM or wide playmaker so this should only be a short term solution.

I’ve been one of the ones that’s wanted Bruno sold for a while but I’ve at least seen why there’s a debate about it. If Amorim stays then I honestly can’t see the point of Bruno. Especially with how badly we need to retool, selling Bruno would be the easiest way to raise funds and bring in specialists for the positions he’s been playing.

Your best player always has a fixed position in the team, with changes being for one off tactical games. If your best player is constantly playing different positions within the same season then he’s just not that good.

That's not how it works. Amorim is using Bruno how he would use Pote for Sporting, alternating between CM and LAM, depending on what he expects from the opposition, the available players and the state of the game.

Bruno is absolutely the type of player Amorim wants in his team and he will be in his first 11 even beyond the summer.

 

[Marwood]

The idea he could be converted into a Scholes is ludicrous and I don't know anyone could think it would work.

He wasn't much better in the 2nd half, spent like 15 minutes after their goal trying to be sent off and passing the ball back to Palace.

I don’t think many believe he can do a Scholes and drop deep. Not that well anyway.

But ultimately it's still likely the best solution right now.

It'll likely fluctuate game to game. Sometimes working, sometimes not. Just have to accept it until the summer. We badly need another CM.

 

[El Jefe]

That's not how it works. Amorim is using Bruno how he would use Pote for Sporting, alternating between CM and LAM, depending on what he expects from the opposition, the available players and the state of the game.

Bruno is absolutely the type of player Amorim wants in his team and he will be in his first 11 even beyond the summer.

We are not Sporting or in the Portuguese league and Pote was not their best player Gyokeres was.

Saka, Salah, Palmer, Haaland, Rodri, Isak, Wood, Kluivert would play the same position week in week out for their teams. I don’t even have to check the team sheet to see which positions they play.

Never in football does a team regularly move the position of their top player. The whole point is they are so good in the position they play that everyone else fits around them. That’s how it had been throughout Bruno’s time here when he was the central No.10 until Amorim took over.

 

[Chaky_Best]

Stating that Bruno was the worst player is an absolute joke.

Onana-Dalot-Mazraoui-Yoro-Ugarte were worse than him, with Amad-Mainoo-Garnacho-Maguire were almost as poor/good as him.

He was not good, but in a poor team ! No ones runs, no tempo, no agressivity, backline is static and can't speed the ball up.

Amorim didn't made a gift to Bruno playing him so deep.

The guy is literraly a second striker, but is forced to play level with his center back in this team.

Too harsh on him, but we should blame many players before Bruno

 

[Xeque_279]

We are not Sporting or in the Portuguese league and Pote was not their best player Gyokeres was.

Saka, Salah, Palmer, Haaland, Rodri, Isak, Wood, Kluivert would play the same position week in week out for their teams. I don’t even have to check the team sheet to see which positions they play.

Never in football does a team regularly move the position of their top player. The whole point is they are so good in the position they play that everyone else fits around them. That’s how it had been throughout Bruno’s time here when he was the central No.10 until Amorim took over.

It's not about Sporting or the Portuguese league, but Amorim's system. In games when we are expected to be in the front foot and the opposition is "lower" than us, he will play an attacking mid in the CM position. While in more cagey games, that same player is utilised at a LAM. This is not set in stone however. My point being he values Bruno so much that he'd use him in either position because he brings value to both.

If we have a quality LAM, Bruno will play at CM, if we get an all action CM that can help progress the ball, Bruno will play at LAM.

 

[Dans]

One of the best videos I have ever seen. Spot on.

 

[Musclehead]

That's not how it works. Amorim is using Bruno how he would use Pote for Sporting, alternating between CM and LAM, depending on what he expects from the opposition, the available players and the state of the game.

Bruno is absolutely the type of player Amorim wants in his team and he will be in his first 11 even beyond the summer.

Wrong, he is the type of player that leads to where they are. Take the rose coloured Bruno glasses off and see what he is, limiting and poor quality. Move him now and move him fast. To add, Bruno is an energy vampire. He sucks the life out of those around him.

 

[Xeque_279]

Wrong, he is the type of player that leads to where they are. Take the rose coloured Bruno glasses off and see what he is, limiting and poor quality. Move him now and move him fast.

Will agree to disagree. Let's see in the summer.

 

[gajender]

That's not how it works. Amorim is using Bruno how he would use Pote for Sporting, alternating between CM and LAM, depending on what he expects from the opposition, the available players and the state of the game.

Bruno is absolutely the type of player Amorim wants in his team and he will be in his first 11 even beyond the summer.

Future is already looking bleak for Amorim and if he is Stupid enough to keep Fernandes as starter next season its only gonna end one way with Amorim getting his P 45 sooner rather than later .

 

[Musclehead]

Stating that Bruno was the worst player is an absolute joke.

Onana-Dalot-Mazraoui-Yoro-Ugarte were worse than him, with Amad-Mainoo-Garnacho-Maguire were almost as poor/good as him.

He was not good, but in a poor team ! No ones runs, no tempo, no agressivity, backline is static and can't speed the ball up.

Amorim didn't made a gift to Bruno playing him so deep.

The guy is literraly a second striker, but is forced to play level with his center back in this team.

Too harsh on him, but we should blame many players before Bruno

You sound just like Bruno, everyone else around him's fault. Isn't he wearing the "C" armband, isn't he the one who is to set the example and be the field general? I cannot say enough how accurate the utube highlight reel and commentary is. He is not a player who breeds success, he is a cancer on the field and with the team. Rashford was infected and until they perform some chemo, things will not change. Undisciplined and poor character sums him up pretty good. As I have been saying for 2 yrs now.

 

[Shane88]

What is it with this guy?, as soon as the camera had him on screen I was thinking we're losing this.



Funny enough I was in a YT rabbit hole at 2am far from sober and I found this.

This is what I've been posting about, i seen him do this vs Crystal Palace today.

Good video that was let down by some name calling and snide comments but the meat of it is fair and right.

The running distance stuff, his positional indiscipline and that Bruno/Kulusevski 9 chances created part really highlights the blind devotion of the Opta/Squawka football fan. His moaning isn't really quantifiable but you can still tell it is fecking toxic. Anyone who has played football at any level has played with a moaning cnut and they're exhausting.

 

[Pickle85]

You sound just like Bruno, everyone else around him's fault. Isn't he wearing the "C" armband, isn't he the one who is to set the example and be the field general? I cannot say enough how accurate the utube highlight reel and commentary is. He is not a player who breeds success, he is a cancer on the field and with the team. Rashford was infected and until they perform some chemo, things will not change. Undisciplined and poor character sums him up pretty good. As I have been saying for 2 yrs now.

Quite apart from the increasing desperation of your wums, calling him a 'cancer' isn't ok, just fyi. Do better.

 

[Sandikan]

Oh no, people aren't trying to blame Bruno again are they? Despite him being our best player by a mile?

 

[Sandikan]

Quite apart from the increasing desperation of your wums, calling him a 'cancer' isn't ok, just fyi. Do better.

You wonder how the sort of people who label footballers as a "cancer" deal with keeping any sort of balance in real life.

 

[John XII]

Oh no, people aren't trying to blame Bruno again are they? Despite him being our best player by a mile?

It's mental.

 

[Pickle85]

You wonder how the sort of people who label footballers as a "cancer" deal with keeping any sort of balance in real life.

Exactly. Also unsurprising to see them disappear, not to be seen when Bruno has a run of good games only to pop up with their usual rambling vitriol when they feel he's subpar.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

You sound just like Bruno, everyone else around him's fault. Isn't he wearing the "C" armband, isn't he the one who is to set the example and be the field general? I cannot say enough how accurate the utube highlight reel and commentary is. He is not a player who breeds success, he is a cancer on the field and with the team. Rashford was infected and until they perform some chemo, things will not change. Undisciplined and poor character sums him up pretty good. As I have been saying for 2 yrs now.

Using cancer as an insult is grim but the way you use an analogy of someone (Rashford) needing chemo because he was “infected” by that cancer tells the rest of us all we need to know about the type of intellect we’re dealing with. Onto ignore you go.

 

[Albo]

Oh no, people aren't trying to blame Bruno again are they? Despite him being our best player by a mile?

Best player by a mile this season no chance it’s Amad . Last season our best player was Dalot . Best player that losses possession more than anyone in premier league . Best player that isn’t a captain material and blames teammates for his misplaced passes . Man United isn’t going anywhere with your best player that will go down in history as worst captain Man United had .

 

[fergiewherearethou]

You sound just like Bruno, everyone else around him's fault. Isn't he wearing the "C" armband, isn't he the one who is to set the example and be the field general? I cannot say enough how accurate the utube highlight reel and commentary is. He is not a player who breeds success, he is a cancer on the field and with the team. Rashford was infected and until they perform some chemo, things will not change. Undisciplined and poor character sums him up pretty good. As I have been saying for 2 yrs now.

What a load of crap.
If it wasn't for Bruno and Rashford in the last 5 years we wouldn't have finished top 4, not even once.

 

[Sandikan]

Best player by a mile this season no chance it’s Amad . Last season our best player was Dalot . Best player that losses possession more than anyone in premier league . Best player that isn’t a captain material and blames teammates for his misplaced passes . Man United isn’t going anywhere with your best player that will go down in history as worst captain Man United had .

It's not even the worst captain we've had in the last few years.

 

[M16Red]

Good video that was let down by some name calling and snide comments but the meat of it is fair and right.

The running distance stuff, his positional indiscipline and that Bruno/Kulusevski 9 chances created part really highlights the blind devotion of the Opta/Squawka football fan. His moaning isn't really quantifiable but you can still tell it is fecking toxic. Anyone who has played football at any level has played with a moaning cnut and they're exhausting.

Yep, had my son's (U8) working on exactly this, is weekend - my son (being a little sh*t) was having a go at new player for passing to the "wrong person" very quickly put a stopper to it.

I'm not saying Bruno is a crap player just putting it out there what i see with him and hoping that maybe - I'm not going nuts and people see what I see.

 

[lost7]

It's not even the worst captain we've had in the last few years.

We've never been this bad, not even with Maguire as captain. I'd love to see our results compared just to show this really