AndyMUFC
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Similar to Rashford, our problem is making these players untouchable and not dropping them. They're both absolute liabilities when they're playing badly.
So your mighty Bruno is poor in Stats this days, poor in eye ball test, poor in games but he's a World class creator . If you are keen you will see without Penalties this days, he doesn't have goals anymore. Surprise Surprise TMDaines.Yeah, there’s a reason why you shouldn’t just use assists (especially in the short or even medium term) to judge how well a player performs in terms of creating chances for teammates for a very obvious reason. That’s a very noisy statistic.
Whats nonsense? Say it here we argue.He has been poorer this season than last, but this is just nonsense.
He can't both create and score the same opportunities.
I don't know to be honest. You watch this and tell me why those idiots are missing. (these are chances, not all of them counted as "big")Whats nonsense? Say it here we argue.
That Bruno had less assists than Eriksen, Haaland, or Gibbs White?
Create and score what? You want to say Bruno created big chances? Which Bruno fanboys cling on forever.
How comes Eriksen in the same team, same poor strikers (martial etc) , in less minutes, without losing double the ball was able to get more assist than Bruno? Why?
Can you give me a tangible verifiable reason why Eriksen had more assist than Bruno in the same team in less minutes but Bruno is a world class creator
From the starting eleven, he was the less bad on that midfield. Casemiro and Mount failed more passes and botched more game plays than Bruno.
No they didn't. Bruno lost possession 27 times, Casemiro 16 times and Mount 10 times
Was shocking, but Maguire has had about 5 worse games in the last two years alone. And that's being kind.I still cant quite believe how absolutely absurdly bad he was last night. Worst performance of a United captain in my time supporting United.
Was shocking, but Maguire has had about 5 worse games in the last two years alone. And that's being kind.
Even at his best, I doubt he'd start for a top teamThe fact that he plays every game 90 minutes for us pretty much describes us as a team. Hot and cold through 90 minutes as you get, watching him is perfect example why we are shite. He wouldn't play for any top club regulary if he plays like this, but he would play for shite teams where would people think he is their hero (e.g. Manchester United).
I’m beginning to come to this opinion too. I don’t see what can be done though. It’s the kind of thing Pep would have done in his first month or two in charge, we can’t get bench our captain and most creative player in October of year two, just in the hope the system benefits.Love his effort and passion plus his stats speak for themselves but I'm still convinced having Bruno in the starting 11 hurts us massively.
Bruno does a lot of pressing but to my untrained eye it seems uncoordinated and often leaves him out of position and a lot of gaps through the center of the pitch. He is also such a high risk taker we often lose the ball and are open to a counter.
He would work fine in a team that has a more solid CM and is better at retaining possession but I feel for us right now his style of play is causing us some problems.
It's kind of similar to the Ruud situation. Fantastic player and tremendous output but as a team we were probably better when he left and we had a more fluid front line. Realise of course the situation for him leaving was also related to falling out with Ronaldo.I’m beginning to come to this opinion too. I don’t see what can be done though. It’s the kind of thing Pep would have done in his first month or two in charge, we can’t get bench our captain and most creative player in October of year two, just in the hope the system benefits.
They’ll be back when he gets an assist against Brentford. Or in a few months when Statman David has collated some more chance creation graphs.Noticeable absence of the snobbery and name-calling from the likes of Pogue tonight of course.
It's kind of similar to the Ruud situation. Fantastic player and tremendous output but as a team we were probably better when he left and we had a more fluid front line. Realise of course the situation for him leaving was also related to falling out with Ronaldo.
Yup. They don’t work together.Either play him or Mount at ten. Currently Mount deserves a shot. So bench Bruno. Not exactly rocket science.
Yup. They don’t work together.
Great decision to buy a replacement for an undroppable player…….
We pretty much have 3 players that should be fighting over one position. Bruno, Eriksen and Mount. None of them are traditional midfielders and they all operate at best further forward. It’s complete neglect to leave our midfield again this summer and bring in Amrabat on the last day. Mount might be an alright player but we are squeezing players into roles they don’t have the tools for and wondering why performances don’t match.
I think that was the strategy last night. Casemiro, Eriksen, Amrabat and Eriksen were all doing the same thing.One thing I've noticed with Bruno is his game management is shocking.
There was a period where we were under the cosh massively last night, and the ball would come to him and rather than recycle possession, he'd just aimlessly give it away trying a hollywood ball. I'm fine with him trying these ambitious balls and them being cut out, that's part of his game, he's never going to have a high success rate but knowing that when it works it's a good chance then that's ok.
But sometimes he just needs to keep possession, take the sting out of the game, and allow us to keep the ball for 5minutes but he never seems to recognise this.
We pretty much have 3 players that should be fighting over one position. Bruno, Eriksen and Mount. None of them are traditional midfielders and they all operate at best further forward. It’s complete neglect to leave our midfield again this summer and bring in Amrabat on the last day. Mount might be an alright player but we are squeezing players into roles they don’t have the tools for and wondering why performances don’t match.
My take is that Bruno is likely the most talented player in the team. He does amazing things sometimes.
Here comes the 'But...'
But he is not a man to build a team around, not the man to look to when things are rough and we need to rally and come together, not the man to look up, see things aren't working and change them.
It’s simple negligence like this that makes me lose massive faith in Hag. I don’t see how any top tier manager would make such a baffling signing and not anticipate these flaws and failingsThe most unnecessary acquisition since VdB. Brainless. Especially when you are working on a budget. And that's not a dig at Mount. He can be a useful player. But when you have a seemingly undroppable player and captain in his position you don't go out and spend that much money on him.
He's not even the best midfielder in the club, leave alone most talented.My take is that Bruno is likely the most talented player in the team. He does amazing things sometimes.
Here comes the 'But...'
But he is not a man to build a team around, not the man to look to when things are rough and we need to rally and come together, not the man to look up, see things aren't working and change them.