He really can't, 9 crossed today and not one reached their target and this isn't a rare occurrence. Other teams get more chances from his crossing than his own team.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 48
- Goals
- 15
- Assists
- 13
- Yellow cards
- 12
- Status
He really can't, 9 crossed today and not one reached their target and this isn't a rare occurrence. Other teams get more chances from his crossing than his own team.
Agreed. Never a captain. A constant complainer, diver, shirking challenges and just generally being a petulant man child.
I think this has to be the final straw.
Looking at previous games on sofascore it was
25 for Palace
18 Burnley
20 Bayern
25 Brighton
The guy is hitting 25+ give aways on the regular.
What would people rather over a 50 game season
10 world class performances plus forty 3/10 at best performances
or fifty 7/10 performances? Because Bruno is 100% option 1, guaranteed. HES NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
10 world class performances plus forty 3/10 at best performances
or fifty 7/10 performances? Because Bruno is 100% option 1, guaranteed. HES NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Given the nature of how football matches are evaluated, there will always be a middle ground/counter argument so long as he’s putting scores on the doors. Ultimately, these goals turn into points.
My concern is that he will never score or make enough of them for it to be worth the rest. So even the very best version of Bruno, which is one where a higher percentage of his actions lead to goals than now, will not get us to where we want to be. The place that we want to go needs a different route to get there, and that’s a feeling I has after about 10 games into Bruno’s United career. I think Bruno at his best can likely lead us to the top 4. The final step requires a different level of team, one that I feel is in direct contradiction to his abilities, or more his lack of them.
That's really mad. Since his productive has massively gone down, I don't think it's feasible to keep starting him. That's so counterproductive
He’s like Rooney in his last depressing days. He needs to be dropped. Why oh why is EtH sticking with him.
KDB gives the ball away at a similar rate.
Not that I'm defending Bruno's performance tonight, it was really bad.
Not that I'm defending Bruno's performance tonight, it was really bad.
Are these legit stats?
Very good opportunity for us to cash in on him next summer(especially if clubs from the Saudi League are interested) before his value plummets.
His use of the ball is maddening.
His use of the ball is maddening.
Most overrated by United fans player, ever. If he was playing against us tonight, I really wouldn't be worried about him one bit.
He is out of form but somehow he always plays. Needs to be dropped or atleast subbed when not playing well
They're on sofascore who claim they use opta. But someone else may be able to clarify.
Are there any other sites who give possession lost data by game? So we can compare.
Garbage tonight, and he's been that way most of this season. The casual way he turns over possession is just infuriating.
Nothing needs to be said about today I guess, but I think, all our midfield players had a difficult night tonight because of some of the setup. I'm really worried, that ETH has an idea of a midfield in his head, that simply isn't going to work with us. Having Mount, Bruno and Eriksen in the middle of the park, in a game where Casemiro already struggled, I really can't wrap my head around that. I screams for trouble. And it adds pressure and Bruno gets worse when pressure is on.
Only if you watch football on Opta. There’s a difference between whipping in a dangerous ball that the striker was inches away from putting in, which draws huge applause at the time for being a brilliant ball but is later archived in history as a ‘misplaced pass’ - and inexplicably playing a simple square pass to an opponent.
To anyone who watches football, De Bruyne is clearly a level or two above Fernandes.
It’s a pointless stat. KDB gives the ball away more than anyone. The whole point is building a team that allows the best creative players in the world to try and unlock a defence. If they give the ball away, you win it back and try again. And again. And again. And again.
You can unlock a defense without attempting a ridiculous pass every single time the opportunity arises. And no, De Bruyne doesn't give the ball away more than Bruno.
This isn't the comparison today. He was just passing it straight to them when we were already up against it, not while trying to unlock a defence but on a simple ball, when we're already down to 10. He's capable of absolute brilliance but the chaos and lack of composure in our game is symbolised by him at the moment. We invite pressure and mistakes.
Even if he gives the ball away I’m sure he’s not giving the ball away with simple passes to the wing or having problems with his first touch and losses the ball like Bruno.
Exactly. I mean feck we saw what his best can do when he was putting up absurd numbers as everything ran through him yet we never really sniffed challenging for anything besides top 4. You simply can't afford to have such an inefficient player in your midfield that's also physically limited as well.
Would always do my head in having people applaud some matches he'd have where he was genuinely horrific for 80 minutes but would pop up with an assist and it all was just forgotten. That's fine if you're a striker who's main job is producing in the final third. Not when you're a midfielder.
No argument there. He was poor today, but he’s still one of the top three or four creative midfielders in world football. The stats about him losing possession are just pointless though. I’d be more aghast if he had 100% pass completion and we created nothing.
My criticism of Bruno is more about his leadership. Like Maguire before him, he doesn’t feel authoritative when the chips are down. He’s wearing the armband, but is as guilty as anyone of losing his head when the momentum is headed all the other way.
The fact that people still try to compare the two is absurd really. It's disingenuous at best and plain ignorance most likely as though they've never watched De Bruyne.
Yeah I'm feeling that way on his leadership as well at the moment. Some people are buoyed by the responsibility of being captain, he seems like he's drowning in it.
The fact that you're mentioning KDB is basically a defense
O Brono? where are you Bruno?
That's right our captain went hiding in yet another match. I'm fecking tired of his hand generate football style. Is Barcelona still interested?
Should've never been United's captain after loss at Anfield where he was rolling & crying every 5 minutes.
That's right our captain went hiding in yet another match. I'm fecking tired of his hand generate football style. Is Barcelona still interested?
Should've never been United's captain after loss at Anfield where he was rolling & crying every 5 minutes.
Needs to be told to calm the feck down and cut down his hollywood passes a bit less. We have major injury crisis in the team and have basically playing makeshift defence at the moment. Losing unnecessary possession should be at the minimum.
City can afford KDB losing ball because they can win it back almost instantly. We dont do that and Bruno does more damage to us by losing possession. If he even cuts it down by 50% that will make a huge difference. Nobody is asking him to play only safe passes but picking moments make players great and i think Bruno is bit brainless in that department.
We concede quickly after the goal because we dont know how to slow things down when we are up.
City can afford KDB losing ball because they can win it back almost instantly. We dont do that and Bruno does more damage to us by losing possession. If he even cuts it down by 50% that will make a huge difference. Nobody is asking him to play only safe passes but picking moments make players great and i think Bruno is bit brainless in that department.
We concede quickly after the goal because we dont know how to slow things down when we are up.
How can the stats of him losing possession be pointless? He is a midfielder, and doesn't offer anything if he doesn't create.
I think it’s more a case of him being one of the three or four top creators from midfield rather than being one of the three or four top creative midfielders.
Who are these world class creators who do not concede possession a lot?
It’s the way he losses possesion it’s in situations where a above average midfielder shouldn’t lose possesion especially If passing is the only thing you’re supposed to be good at since he can’t dribble.
The problem is, he doesn't just give away possession when trying a difficult defence splitting pass.
He also gives it away trying basic passes, and gets dispossessed easily as he's piss weak.
His decision making of when to keep it simple and when to try a risky ball is also clearly off.
I wish we as a club valued a players general play.
Everything everyone is saying now, I said before we signed him when we were getting linked to him in January, but I thought he'd be a fine stop gap for half a season with Lingard stinking the place up as our 10.
Little did I know our fans standards were so low that they'd turn him into a cult hero, putting future managers in a position where they wouldn't want to rock the boat by replacing him.
Everything everyone is saying now, I said before we signed him when we were getting linked to him in January, but I thought he'd be a fine stop gap for half a season with Lingard stinking the place up as our 10.
Little did I know our fans standards were so low that they'd turn him into a cult hero, putting future managers in a position where they wouldn't want to rock the boat by replacing him.
Yeah were in a stupid, muddled, middle ground of a system. I dont think there was a choice last season and we couldn't put out a coherent 11 whatever the availability of players. We'll see what happens when injuries clear up a bit this season but I think its clear we still need to make use of players like Rashford and Bruno and even Maguire to be honest.
I'm pretty disappointed in Bruno tonight. Particularly with a view to his future but I think a goalscorer and creator like him will always have some value. Sometimes you need to throw the kitchen sink at teams and in that context surely he'll still have his uses. I'd like to get him closer to goal and a bit clear of our midfield at this point though.
Maybe giving out about him pushing too far forward was foolish in the end.
Not making excuses but his best position isn’t RW.
What is interesting is that he is the one that has lost his place in the midfield.
Now is that just because of injuries, and we shouldn’t read too much into it.
Or does bringing Amrabat and Mount into the club show the managers is aware or at least is trying to improve the midfield without Bruno.
One of the reason I’d keep EtH is to see how he solves the midfield. It’s definitely a work in progress.
What is interesting is that he is the one that has lost his place in the midfield.
Now is that just because of injuries, and we shouldn’t read too much into it.
Or does bringing Amrabat and Mount into the club show the managers is aware or at least is trying to improve the midfield without Bruno.
One of the reason I’d keep EtH is to see how he solves the midfield. It’s definitely a work in progress.
Shocker.
World class my foot.
Even Last season Eriksen had a better assist numbers than Bruno and he was injured for a long period.
Even Haaland had better assists numbers than Bruno. You don't believe I know
It's incredible we are still arguing about Bruno after what he has shown in the last 3 years.
Bruno will become the Maguire of our midfield. I called it in February 2023. It's October 2023. How true are those words? 100% correct. He will be a HUGE problem to move him on. He's the main problem to ETH, same as Maguire was for Ole.
Absolutely a pseudo of a midfielder.
ASSISTS
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| Assists | MP | Coef. | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| K. De Bruyne Manchester City | 16 | 32 | 0.50 | |
| M. Salah Liverpool | 12 | 38 | 0.32 | |
| Leandro Trossard Arsenal | 11 | 36 | 0.31 | |
| Michael Olise Crystal Palace | 11 | 37 | 0.30 | |
| Bukayo Saka Arsenal | 11 | 38 | 0.29 | |
| R. Mahrez Manchester City | 10 | 30 | 0.33 | |
| Alexander-Arnold Liverpool | 10 | 37 | 0.27 | |
| J. Maddison Leicester | 9 | 30 | 0.30 | |
| C. Eriksen Manchester United | 8 | 28 | 0.29 | |
| Ivan Perišić Tottenham Hotspur | 8 | 34 | 0.24 | |
| A. Robertson Liverpool | 8 | 34 | 0.24 | |
| E. Haaland Manchester City | 8 | 35 | 0.23 | |
| M. Gibbs-White Nottingham Forest | 8 | 37 | 0.22 | |
| Pascal Groß Brighton & Hove Albion | 8 | 37 | 0.22 |
Yeah, there’s a reason why you shouldn’t just use assists (especially in the short or even medium term) to judge how well a player performs in terms of creating chances for teammates for a very obvious reason. That’s a very noisy statistic.World class my foot.
Even Last season Eriksen had a better assist numbers than Bruno and he was injured for a long period.
Even Haaland had better assists numbers than Bruno. You don't believe I know
It's incredible we are still arguing about Bruno after what he has shown in the last 3 years.
Bruno will become the Maguire of our midfield. I called it in February 2023. It's October 2023. How true are those words? 100% correct. He will be a HUGE problem to move him on. He's the main problem to ETH, same as Maguire was for Ole.
Absolutely a pseudo of a midfielder.
ASSISTS
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Assists MP Coef. K. De Bruyne
Manchester City16 32 0.50 M. Salah
Liverpool12 38 0.32 Leandro Trossard
Arsenal11 36 0.31 Michael Olise
Crystal Palace11 37 0.30 Bukayo Saka
Arsenal11 38 0.29 R. Mahrez
Manchester City10 30 0.33 Alexander-Arnold
Liverpool10 37 0.27 J. Maddison
Leicester9 30 0.30 C. Eriksen
Manchester United8 28 0.29 Ivan Perišić
Tottenham Hotspur8 34 0.24 A. Robertson
Liverpool8 34 0.24 E. Haaland
Manchester City8 35 0.23 M. Gibbs-White
Nottingham Forest8 37 0.22 Pascal Groß
Brighton & Hove Albion8 37 0.22
Theres always someone here to compare him to KDB. Always.
He has been poorer this season than last, but this is just nonsense.World class my foot.
Even Last season Eriksen had a better assist numbers than Bruno and he was injured for a long period.
Even Haaland had better assists numbers than Bruno. You don't believe I know
It's incredible we are still arguing about Bruno after what he has shown in the last 3 years.
Bruno will become the Maguire of our midfield. I called it in February 2023. It's October 2023. How true are those words? 100% correct. He will be a HUGE problem to move him on. He's the main problem to ETH, same as Maguire was for Ole.
Absolutely a pseudo of a midfielder.
ASSISTS
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Assists MP Coef. K. De Bruyne
Manchester City16 32 0.50 M. Salah
Liverpool12 38 0.32 Leandro Trossard
Arsenal11 36 0.31 Michael Olise
Crystal Palace11 37 0.30 Bukayo Saka
Arsenal11 38 0.29 R. Mahrez
Manchester City10 30 0.33 Alexander-Arnold
Liverpool10 37 0.27 J. Maddison
Leicester9 30 0.30 C. Eriksen
Manchester United8 28 0.29 Ivan Perišić
Tottenham Hotspur8 34 0.24 A. Robertson
Liverpool8 34 0.24 E. Haaland
Manchester City8 35 0.23 M. Gibbs-White
Nottingham Forest8 37 0.22 Pascal Groß
Brighton & Hove Albion8 37 0.22
He can't both create and score the same opportunities.
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