Would they be fine though? Will the leavers be happy in having to accept free movement of people, they have to fork ridiculous money in the union and have no say on most of the matters?
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Would they be fine though? Will the leavers be happy in having to accept free movement of people, they have to fork ridiculous money in the union and have no say on most of the matters?
Brexit Reaction from County Durham voters
They are upset because their government they elected neglect them so they leave the EU?
Yep, I've got 2 trips in Europe to make and holiday plans in America within the next 3 months, and they're all messed up
of course they do. We're talking about Brittania, the one that rules the waves. Once GB will stamp its feet everyone within the EU will stop and listen
Because it's interesting. That's all that really matters. What entertains and interests you.
Cameron condemns racist attacks according to his official spokesperson
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No, they won't be fine, the racist genie is out of the bottle. Whatever the government do now, they are pretty fecked.
What they need is a strong respected leader to tell them this behaviour is unacceptable from an "advanced nation" in 2016 and that the vote was never a vote to block free movement in Europe and that they are a bunch of idiots.
I am feeling an increasing amount of guilt at the moment.
I've mentioned a few times in this thread that my wife is currently awaiting her VISA to come and live here, and I'm genuinely worried about the country I'm bringing her too. I mean, she lives in South Africa, and she has told me before that she has not once been racially discriminated against in her life (there's irony in there somewhere...) but if she comes here and if one person says anything untoward, well it would make me feel compeletely awful, so I can't imagine how it'd make her feel.
It probably sounds overly dramatic in what is quite a dramatic thread already, but as people have said, with the sharp rise of hateful things being heard/reported off the back of this, and the steady move towards the far-right... well, it's a worry to say the least.
I've mentioned a few times in this thread that my wife is currently awaiting her VISA to come and live here, and I'm genuinely worried about the country I'm bringing her too. I mean, she lives in South Africa, and she has told me before that she has not once been racially discriminated against in her life (there's irony in there somewhere...) but if she comes here and if one person says anything untoward, well it would make me feel compeletely awful, so I can't imagine how it'd make her feel.
It probably sounds overly dramatic in what is quite a dramatic thread already, but as people have said, with the sharp rise of hateful things being heard/reported off the back of this, and the steady move towards the far-right... well, it's a worry to say the least.
It looks like that's exactly what they were thinking.
Nothing I can really say to that if i'm honest.I feel even more unsafe as a minority even though i was born in this country, this result has given far right racists more confidence and with tough times coming it's only going to get worse. With both Tory and Labour parties in disarray i can only see parties like UKIP growing, now they have got the EU immigrants out of the way their next target will be non EU immigrants and i fear eventually British people who are not white. I really fear for my son who will have to grow up in this environment. This result has been catastrophic not only on an economic level but also a social level.
What the tories need to do is for Boris and co to admit they lied and appoint someone whose a Remainer. It wont happen though
There's always been racial micro-aggressions in the UK, but you'd have to be Non-White person, or even Non-British in the case of EU Migrants, to really notice them. Recent reports of actual acts of violence & prejudice against those very same groups I imagine are done so on the emotion of the result rather than any long term shift in pattern of behaviour.
This will die down sooner rather than later, your average British person is more timid by nature, and there's no culture of guns or violence like you see in America or Russia for example.
Your wife will be fine. She may be a victim of some form of racial discrimination at some point but I can't envisage it being very bad.
That's an optimistic view but I envisage big problems if the UK agrees to an EEA deal, huge problems.
This is a funny (but sad) one - maybe set up or incredibly dumb
Set-up for sure, not remotely funny.
Woman in my office has just said she's 'fed up of seeing all this EU stuff all over the bloody news, it's been 3 days now you can't get away from it'.
Guarantee she voted out. Stupid ignorant cow.
Guarantee she voted out. Stupid ignorant cow.
I'm quite big when it comes to pointing our racism, prejudice and all that goes along with it.
In this case, I just don't see the UK shifting in that direction permanently or in the long term.
Short term yes, the reaction has been terrible but not shocking. There's too many variables to say if this is how things will be forever.
Re: the Youtuve video ~
For all the paranoid talk here about rampant feminazis, sadly there's an awful lot of women who give not one f*ck about Feminism or about the way women are perceived..
For all the paranoid talk here about rampant feminazis, sadly there's an awful lot of women who give not one f*ck about Feminism or about the way women are perceived..
I wrote/posted this before. Its coming true quicker than I thought
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I hope Im wrong and this projection is an extremity .... but UK exiting the EU and a British Prime Minister resigning office are already very extreme actions so all bets are off ....
The Far Right Wing have officially parked there bus in the British Parliament. They were aided by a decade of soft and lazy political correctness, whipped up enough fear within public sentiment against immigrants and Islam and cleverly rode the EU referendum wave. Their views are now officially legitimate and they believe they have a manifesto for change; BrExit was just an aperitif, the main course is yet to come.
A new Conservative Government will most likely have to form a coalition with the right wing UKIP and other emboldened far right parties who will win seats in the next election. Labour will also have to alter its manifesto and become much tougher on immigration and the benefits of a international and cosmopolitan community. The political and cultural narrative of the next 5 years will be fuelled by renditions of the 'rule Britannia' ideology from the empire days, it will shun immigration and marginalise ethic minorities.
This will inspire other right wing movements across the world: other European nations will demand referendums and the EU will die. The US will vote in Trump, France will engage with Le Pen and right wing ideology will thrive across mainland Europe, not seen since the days of Hitler and Mussolini. India is already ruled by the right wing nationalist Modi and China will accelerate its own inward facing cultural reinvention. Liberal and cosmopolitan thinking space will shrink.
And so whilst digital technology will continue to make the global population feel like there are no borders, major influential Governments around the world will head in the opposite direction. At some point somebody will grieviosly upset somebody else and with weakened international coalitions no longer able to smooth over potentially violent disagreements (why the EU was set up in the first place!) nationalist Governments will consider war.
Whilst radical Islamic extremists will provide a constant backdrop, it will not be the trigger for all conflict: European countries will do that by themselves, as they have done twice before in the 2 great world wars of the last 100 years. Except this time, we have nuclear weapons and drones aided by sophisticated geo tagging to do damage.
I hope Im wrong and this projection is an extremity .... but UK exiting the EU and a British Prime Minister resigning office are already very extreme actions so all bets are off ....
#BrExit
Even Swedes, Norwegians and the Danish will get comments here by bigots saying "go back to your country" when they have a higher standard of living and are better educated for the most part.
It's a sad country we live in the UK is just fundamentally broken and let's be honest, it was before the referendum this just gave them license to say their prejudice is ethical.
What did you not understand about 52% voting to leave despite every expert telling them not to?
It was a free pass to legitimise every closet racist in the country. We let the genie out if the bottle and are back to the 1970s.
We have a difference of opinion and regardless who's shouting what the loudest in the media or online calling everyone idiots, racists, traitors yadda yadda It is just that. Far right politics isn't being promoted, in fact far right politics has just been used and will now be thrown to the side, Farage is already persona non gratis and UKIP will not be part of the new parliament.
I'm also glad that a mirror has been shown to reveal that this country (and I believe every country in the world) is far more racist than they have claimed to be for years as we can now start to address it properly rather than live in denial.
The government and political parties have just been given the biggest kick up the backside for decades and for the first time in god knows how long have just had a huge reminder that they work for the people not the elite few. In a months time the politicians will all be back again same as always. Hate crimes have been reported across the country every day for years now it's getting the attention it deserves and the idiots in hiding who commit them are coming out of the woodwork. The UK isn't on the Brink of being dismantled despite the rhetoric. Sturgeon has already been shot down by the EU and the hopes she had of making Scotland leave and join the EU has been revealed it will take about 15 years to happen, in te mean time we will have an idea as to how the exit will work and if we come out of it as a member as I expect in the EEA then Sturgeon et all will very quickly change their stance.
We are in a state of fear and uncertainty when there doesn't need to be one, which will only last as long as people are bickering, not moving forward together and once the political shake down is over and the parties who every single mp has agreed will start to work together to get the best deal for the country. The EU itself and please don't think I'm talking about the countries of Spain, France, Germany etc but the EU administration in Brussels is in serious danger as is their control of the Euro. the falls happening today are an undervaluation of the pound. At this moment in time, in terms of our actual position and strength of our economy nothing has changed since this time last week except that in 2 years it will change and we will have a better idea by the end of this year how that will happen, all speculation is occurring without any facts, a bit like the campaigns we've just been subject to. At the moment a lot of financiers before the vote started buying up gold more as it always holds it value better in uncertain times. Once the calm has returned they will buy back into currency and if things carry on they are going to make a killing buying into stirling. This is not an apocalypse
I will not reveal how I voted and I wish a lot more people didn't, especially online, as it led to this tying our flags to a pole and damned the opposition as the enemy. What I will say is I was like a lot of this country shocked and deeply saddened on Friday morning last week. I was equally disgusted by both campaigns lies and fear mongering. I have since the last Friday as well been equally sickened by peoples behaviour online from both sides of the argument in the aftermath. For me the debate was and should have been simpler and made with facts about what it was really about. Do you want everything to remain the same, or do you want actual change. Actual change has won and it will be a bit painful in the short term but I promise you there is a light at the end of the tunnel and that isn't a future were we'll all be running around like a scene from a 80's sci-fi dystopia where everyone is a skinhead racist living in squalor. We need the Euro to survive and the Euro needs the Pound to survive and things will calm down but only if we let it.
The idea that everyone voted to leave because they were all simple racists is untrue despite how many videos are posted in here and everyone who has claimed it on the caf. The generation that voted to leave were also the generation that voted us in in the first place and they have seen the effects since that time and made their decision on that. There has been a huge disconnect between the working classes and the political parties who declared things like we are all middle class now and in Europe we were better. They've seen there communities disappear and the engagement from both the main parties dwindle away to them to the point of being ignored, and considered not needed as our parties now had the ear of business instead and that's all that mattered to make the economy proper, which led the way in for a horrible group like UKIP as they were the only ones willing to engage with them and all they did was reaffirm the fear rather than reason, listen and try to work out a way for their voices to be heard in halls of power. The highest proportional areas who voted to leave was old Labour home ground, you know that liberal left minded side of the country.
Everyone needs to stop flapping, stop being hateful to everyone, calm down and wait and see.
I'm sure that a lot of people think that it's not that important, they don't realize how big a decision it was. It doesn't matter which side you are but you need to understand what it meant.
I've already had someone I went to secondary school with tell me to 'Go back where you came from, if you dont like it!' in response to me highlighting racist attitudes in the UK. And she just got swamped by about 8 different people telling her how much of a bigot she is.
That's the thing, they have a free pass now because the result is still fresh & raw. As things settle down and people begin to see that they were duped & we'll be in a recession for who knows how long they won't feel so justified in their bigotry.
No, nothing matters.
Google translate this people:
http://www.welt.de/debatte/kommenta...ben-auch-Merkels-Alleingaenge-abgewaehlt.html
http://www.welt.de/debatte/kommenta...ben-auch-Merkels-Alleingaenge-abgewaehlt.html
It doesn't really. Nothing you think say or do matters so do whatever interests you and makes you happy. If doing so breaks the law then justice and punishment should be done on this earth as past the here and now any other sort of punishment is pointless.
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Your post doesn't matter, I didn't even read it
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What the actual feck are you on about?
There are lots of reasons to vote leave for sure. To take back sovereignty (I fail to see any method of trading with the world and keeping 100% sovereignty, by the nature of the thing, it's all a compromise), to make immigration fairer for the rest of the world, to try and increase wages for the working class, and so on and so forth.
A good portion of the vote leave are racist bigots however, but certainly not everyone, and I would hope not the majority.
But right now, the leavers have no answer to the remainers on pretty much any issue they bring up.
It would be nice if a Leaver had anything to say on the subject other than, "be patient, it will be fine".
At the end of the day, I don't care about the EU. We can leave, maybe they will punish us for 5 years or so, maybe it will cost a few tens of thousands of people their jobs, but we will survive.
But if Scotland go, then that's it. A 600 year old Union destroyed because politicians couldn't sort their stuff out. A huge waste. The end of an era. Sad times.
News to me. Any links to this?