Rees-Mogg is the Ted Cruz of England. Literally impossible for me to see how any could vote for such a creature.
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Rees-Mogg is the Ted Cruz of England. Literally impossible for me to see how any could vote for such a creature.
Dem foreigners, init?
He's an extremely charming fellow?
Did you see him on HIGNFY?
Mind you, Farage looks like a decent bloke on HIGNFY.
Not all devils wear horns, Colly.
he answers questions with latin non-sequiturs and has a castle what's not to like
He's Sideshow Mogg.
shame he's always wrong
JRM is liked by a lot of people because he is honest and won't change his views because that is what he thinks people would rather hear.
Tony Benn was the same in that regard.
It is an admirable quality in itself but is bound to upset people that do not agree with you.
At least you know where you stand with them - which is more than can be said for a good many politicians.
Tony Benn was the same in that regard.
It is an admirable quality in itself but is bound to upset people that do not agree with you.
At least you know where you stand with them - which is more than can be said for a good many politicians.
true someone has to represent victorian Britain
Technically it's more of statly home and it's his wifes ...
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/d5efd3a0-b32f-11e6-a37c-f4a01f1b0fa1
In his defence at least he does not pretend to be a man of the people... Which is just as well as I suspect he may actually be one of our reptilian overlords
I give up.
"Will of the people"
You think JRM is honest? He is lying non-stop.
looks like they're trying to butter up Labour backbenchers to vote for the deal. Most of them will want impact assessment vs. remaining in the EU though
I really don't think he's lying in the way of the 'politician'. He truly believes what he is saying. Which makes him deluded.
If the government has approved it being made available then it must rate the WA + FTA very favourable.
I think he's deceitful and trying to manipulate the public to get the conclusion he will profit the most from, which is for the UK to crash out of the EU.
Hopefully history will reveal his true reasons in time.
No way, he can't possibly be that deluded. He's a calculating lying prick. His plan is (and has been) to throw in a spanner into anything that might work to reap the profits of the chaos that ensues. Have no doubt, he is in it for personal gain.
Edit: Ah @Paul the Wolf got there first.
He’s literally the stereotypical Tory. A swan in a human’s body.
What's your beef with swans?
Fascist c*nts.
To be fair they always seemed a little chippy to me too.
In a way all solutions to this have the potential to be declared a success. It all depends on how much pain people are prepared to take and for how long. Is the EU system the best there is? The Aussies among others might disagree.
I was not entirely happy with the EU but voted remain - on the don't-rock-the-leaky-boat or better-the-devil-you know basis.
To be fair they always seemed a little chippy to me too.
They're aggressive. I'll give you that.
Maybe you're right. But if we crash out in the worst of circumstances leading to massive job losses and 8% negative growth then Nigel Farage (who is a genuine charlatan) will be nowhere to be seen. I think JRM would face the music.
Right, we can have a discussion whether there's possibly better ways of organising oneself than the EU currently does, I completely accept that. I accept that many Britains thought/think Britain is capable of better, it is understandable.
But when the person who says it lies all day and night for years on end (any of the major brexiteers, any!) why would I believe them when they say so? Why would I believe some lying populist caricature of an upper class Brit when he says we'll be so much better off? I've listened to JRM, i've listened to BOJO, i've listened to Farage. There's loads of things one can criticise the EU for, but not remedying their made up woes isn't one of them. At some point I lost respect for these people (brexiteer politicians), lie to me 10 times and I'll listen to you an 11th time to see if you speak truth. But lie to me a million times and I'll start thinking those that still believe you are mentally inept.
(Royal you, not you personally @Honest John)
If the UK does crash out and the subsequent economic carnage does happen then all of those responsible for the lies should be held to account . Criminally they'll get away with it but hopefully the public will realise that they have been conned and these people will be finished as politicians/public figures.
Yes Farage is the biggest charlatan but maybe the US will be after him as well.
JRM will bring back the pounds he took abroad before the referendum and they will be worth twice as much.
I think with Mogg at least the woes are genuine. He is stuck in a time warp. The others are a lot more sinister IMO. I think net immigration in terms of the rate of increase was a concern of many in the UK. Sovereignty? Nah. The ECJ? I suspect in some quarters people thought that was an earth moving vehicle. The degree of vitriol towards the EU just plain did not exist across the population as a whole. Most, like me, found it mildly irritating from time to time but for the most part were not that arsed about it.
They should then confiscate it under the unexplained income rules.
Then sew a dunces hat to his scalp and make him stand in the corner of the commons with his nose against the wall forever.
"Jeremy Corbyn had a constructive meeting with Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon. They discussed their common opposition to Theresa May’s botched Brexit deal and determination to work across parliament to prevent a disastrous no deal outcome."
So they don't want May's deal, they don't want No Deal, the only other choice is to Remain in the EU. There is no other deal.
So they don't want May's deal, they don't want No Deal, the only other choice is to Remain in the EU. There is no other deal.
It’s all just posturing. What he actually wants is a general election and he will lie through his teeth to try end get the outcome he wants. He’s a politician. That’s what they do.
Yes, for sure he wants a general election, which I highly doubt will happen and which he would probably lose anyway.
None of that helps the UK defuse the ticking time bomb that ejects them from the EU.
Think the UK needs a bit of honesty at this moment.
I suspect also the government are also considering making a free vote (like they did in 1971)
Yes this will probably loose them another 5 cabinet votes... but it will make it impossibe for labour to put up a 3 line whip to compel members to vote against it without looking like they are putting party politics first and potentially therefore carrying most of the blame for a no deal...
its a roll of the dice but shes out of other options so they will release everything they can to get labour mps on board - especially those who know that momentum is going to de-select them anyway so why not actually vote for a deal if they think its better than the alternative
its going to come down to how is hated most in their own party - may or corbyn - and its gonna be close - the state of uk politics eh
Is there any actually news today?
Even JRM admits there are not enough letters.
It's one guy. He's said that people who have publicly claimed to send a letter in haven't, that would be easy to disprove considering it's a short list.
nothing other than we are one day closer to it all going wrong