Much higher with Raab's resignation.
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How can people not see what is going on and say another referendum or at least another GE isn't needed. Another GE won't even fix this shit tbh?
To call this a shitshow is an understatement.
To call this a shitshow is an understatement.
It's like reality is starting to set in... that the choice is between a pretty bad deal, a bad deal or no deal. It's almost as if the EU aren't going to give us better terms than being a member of the EU gets you? Hard to imagine anyone predicting that.
This circus has some legs though. Even if a hard Brexiteer were to challenge and defeat May in a leadership contest... where does that leave us? There's no way we have a parliamentary majority to pass a hard Brexit either, which leaves us in this continued stalemate. A stalemate which won't be broken without either a GE or a people's vote. A GE is also unlikely to break the stalemate to be honest unless we have a massive sea-change in public opinion, so a people's vote might eventually become an inevitability as the only option to break the deadlock.
This circus has some legs though. Even if a hard Brexiteer were to challenge and defeat May in a leadership contest... where does that leave us? There's no way we have a parliamentary majority to pass a hard Brexit either, which leaves us in this continued stalemate. A stalemate which won't be broken without either a GE or a people's vote. A GE is also unlikely to break the stalemate to be honest unless we have a massive sea-change in public opinion, so a people's vote might eventually become an inevitability as the only option to break the deadlock.
May won't lose a vote of no confidence.
I couldn't have put it better, this crap starts with wonky bananas, ends with people voting for economic self-sabotage.
I honestly don't know if another referendum would solve anything - you would have the hardline brexit folk voting for it - you also would have a lot of people who now think 'let's just get on with the thing' voting for it - many of whom may have been remainers originally. It is by no means guaranteed that a vote would give a different result and it also does nothing to solve the problem of what happens to the border in Ireland if we continue with Brexit.
To non UK caftards, this is what we are dealing with.
It's not going to be a simple yes or no vote. It has to be a two stage referendum.
The £. 
No you wouldn't.
As said for the past two years the EU will offer a take it or leave it deal with a transition period in exchange of the UK paying its dues. If the UK refused the deal then it will basically pave the way to the toughest and meanest of all hard Brexits.
So if the vote last night was 18-11, how many of those 11 do we think are going to jump ship today?
You have a few people in this very thread saying exactly this.
I long for the day he kicks the bucket. I don't know a single individual that has done more damage to the western world.
Imeh its the eu - get ready for some fudge on 28th March (probably to extend A50)
What people say and do though are often completely different. I take those sort of comments as more of a "I'm sick of hearing about the whole thing now". Surely more likely to not vote at all if that's the case rather than do a complete 180 in the event of a second referendum.
Most of them i recon, minimum 6.
Until the terms of cancellation are understood there's no point discussing a second referendum seriously.
Secondly, there's a high chance it will lead to a Tory-UKIP coalition and that will be almost as damaging so it's obvious why Labour won't self sabotage. A cross-party amendment thst isn't from either of the main parties is the most likely path to a referendum.
They are needed, but we are running out of time.
Not sure that's an option for the Tories any more. UKIP appear to have gone full National Front recently from bits and bobs I've heard about them.
Brexiteers be like
Your opinion on the general intelligence of the British public is vastly more optimistic than mine then. The people who wanted to leave still want to leave - they just don't like the current deal. If they are asked to vote again I would imagine most of them would still vote out.
I think it's more that the people who didn't vote at all would actually get off their arse and do so this time which could swing the result but like I said before a referendum should never have been called in the first place and certainly not on the basis of >50% being enough to turn people's lives upside down. People happy with the status quo are much more likely to not bother voting at all which is why I was not surprised that Leave won when many were.
What do you do if you don't mind me asking?
indeed many opinions will be reinforced
the eu have no intention of giving us a good deal - feck em lets go for a hard brexit -
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we told you so - its impossible to get a deal better than staying would be so we should stay
It's hillarious that they've spent months saying "no deal is better than a bad deal" and the plebs believed it now they're basically u-turning saying no deal will be dreadful and they're losing their shit.
How fecking dumb does our prime minister think the EU are if she thought such talk was a negotiating ploy
How fecking dumb does our prime minister think the EU are if she thought such talk was a negotiating ploy
Lets get another government ffs. Norway + Customs Union and be done with this crap.
Hard Brexit is not preferable. It's literally the worst possible option and it would crush the UK economy.
Corporate law, the tories are one of the clients I worked with in the last year.
The whole Brexit referendum was such a stupid idea.
Esther McVey has quit.
Dropping like flies...
Odds of a no confidence vote now then? Surely at least 50-50...
Minimal, she'll stand down before it gets to that