How is this not even in the media? Surely if it was then people would at least get some sense of the impact crashing out will have, no? I find it ridiculous how little the effects of this have been documented.
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It's been in the reported in the news a month or so back. Just that no one(Rightly or wrongly)gives a shit.
Yeah, but I'll probably get a hell of a lot more crap on here than I normally do if I call them racist as well as stupid
I'll do it for you. Those who voted Brexit are racist and stupid. And if they don't fall in that category they are short sighted and selfish, I.e. a few business owners are keen to have more control in the international space for their own businesses.
stop blaming Brexit voters for brexit
Personally I'd like some actuaries to run the numbers on the class action suit that remainers should be entitled to from the Brexiters. All holidays since Brexit have been 20-25% more expensive due to the currency decline. Businesses are not expanding or investing in Britain or in some cases are either leaving or the work they did is being taken from them. That comes at a cost.
Many Europeans do many useful jobs that British are either to lazy or inconpetent to do. We'll end up with a shortfall in nurses, plumbers, electricians, tradesmen, removal men, etc. This all reduces supply and increases demand on the remaining useless British workers who are getting paid for being crap.
I'm struggling to see many upsides and many of them will take decades to fix. You don't suddenly make new trade agreements, or train people to the level required.
Some of the above may not come to fruition as we'll have some sort of agreement for foreign workers, but there is undoubtedly a net negative impact and I think the brexiteers should pay the bill!
The only people I know personally who voted as follows:
2015 Tory
2016 Brexit
2017 Tory
were previously traditional Labour voters.
See that you are suggesting that those who voted Brexit in 2016 are completely devoid of responsibility, presumably pleading insanity.
Not in the Brexit heartlands of white rural England, they're just racists who love Thatcher.
That's where they live and who now conveniently forget they voted for Blair and hate Corbyn and they hated Thatcher. The Labour/Tory blame game is void as far as I'm concerned as both leaders want Brexit. Brexit is not so much about political parties as some people make out.
Agree that Brexit is principally about xenophobia but it's cross party.
I haven't heard much about Brexit recently. Is it still happening?
Surely this is scaremongering aimed at people who don't give a feck about the important stuff?
We already have a shortage in all of those sectors in Holland, probably in more sectors than the UK. Who do i have to blame for that?
It doesnt matter a jot what a hard knock brexiteer looks like or what they think. They were delivered their platform by a Tory prick that was voted in by short sighted unintelligent people that now think they have the right to blame others. How feckin demented is that?
Not saying Cameron wasn't totally stupid in giving them the platform but if you're resolving the Brexiteers from responsibility then you have to likewise resolve those who voted Tory. You can't be more shortsighted than voting for Brexit, you can get rid of a political party within 5 years, you can't rectify Brexit.
Now, however, whoever's fault it is, the UK is in deep trouble. Who the hell is going to get them out of it? It's not going to be the current Tories and it's not going be the current Labour and there's no-one else.
1979 UK eletion: (Blue = Thatcher)
2015 UK election: Blue = Cameron
2016 Brexit vote: Blue = Leave
2017 UK election (blue = May)
Brexit vote by party:
32% and 35% of Lib Dems and Labour...61% of Conservatives voted Brexit.
There's an age (old>>young) and regional (rural>urban, south>north) and a direct correlation (2015 vote Conservative) between Conservative voters and Brexit.
2015 UK election: Blue = Cameron
2016 Brexit vote: Blue = Leave
Brexit vote by party:
There's an age (old>>young) and regional (rural>urban, south>north) and a direct correlation (2015 vote Conservative) between Conservative voters and Brexit.
5% of ukip voters voted to remain... Must say I have my doubts as to the validity of that data1979 UK eletion: (Blue = Thatcher)
2015 UK election: Blue = Cameron
2016 Brexit vote: Blue = Leave
2017 UK election (blue = May)
Brexit vote by party:
32% and 35% of Lib Dems and Labour...61% of Conservatives voted Brexit.
There's an age (old>>young) and regional (rural>urban, south>north) and a direct correlation (2015 vote Conservative) between Conservative voters and Brexit.
Well, consider it a 5% error margin then. Point still stands.
Two weeks to the deadline for talks and the government is still negotiating with itself. Can't even agree what to do with the backstop.
This entire shambles is the worst performance I've ever seen of a western government.
The Tories are a renegade group. Just read the headlines this morning.
This entire shambles is the worst performance I've ever seen of a western government.
The Tories are a renegade group. Just read the headlines this morning.
There's only 4 days left to the summit. Talks with the EU are pointless because the government or parliament will never agree anyway.
One hilarious thing I saw, although rather sad really: The Conservative MP Nadine Dorries backed Davis’s intervention and suggested he should become “interim leader” to deliver Brexit.
Two weeks ago, she was backing Boris. She has issues.
Because they might put the general enonomic interest of the country or their principles above voting against a deal without knowing what it is because Corbyn says to...
God image if it's the blairites who are the ones who push Brexit through
That must have been hard to type right ?
God image if it's the blairites who are the ones who push Brexit through
May as well as they are basically Torys
So if the choice is a deal with a transition period and close EU ties or a hard brexit they should vote for hard brexit...c'mon it's Corbyn who is going to be the one who delivers the ultimate right wing wet dream of leaving the EU with the hardest possible brexit and all that pesky regulations
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There might be something deeper to that
Should may loose the budget vote the conservatives have a few weeks to form a functioning government (get the dup back with them)... That time period wouldn't allow for a leadership election so in the background there may be moves to pick a hard brexit alternative (Davies mogg and Johnson being the most obvious)... Perhaps they are forming an actual plan and it's quite deliberate moving behind Davis?
But May plans won't work in any form and will be rejected both by the eu and her party, all Flint is doing helping May stay in power for a little longer.
What were people saying about needing a real opposition.
If May's suggesting a deal which mitigates the worst aspects of leaving and ensures we don't crash out of the single market etc then that's clearly the best deal to support, irrespective of whether or not she remains in power afterwards. Hypothetically whoever takes over after her has no need to call an election depending on how well-liked they are within the party, and so it's not a sequence of events which guarantees an election for Labour.
Well if there is a deal to bring to parliament then it's been accepted by the EU
If it gets voted down then you get rid of may... But no general election... Just the hardest possible brexit and mogg or Johnson for the next 4 years (as the dup would back either)
Vote for the deal and number one there is a deal and number 2 the dup probably sink Mays government on the back of a deal they don't like and you might actually get the general election
Yes but she hasn't and she can't as MP's in her party won't accept it, the tory base will hate it and they'll start losing votes to UKIP.
The reasons May ''reaching out'' to these Labour MP's is because she got no one left.
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So the thought of Corbyn in charge doesn't send shivers through anyone then.
He's as pro Brexit as anyone and a Marxist to boot.
He's as pro Brexit as anyone and a Marxist to boot.
Grandstanding or serious... Be interesting to see how the pound trades tomorrow morning... My understanding was raab wouldn't be there unless things in the background were tacitly agreed in principal
Though the EU is notorious for last minute deals / dramas so it could still be business as usual
Serious I believe, Raab seems to have stopped progress. May has to back down to get a deal and she either doesn't want to or daren't , probably both.
Even then it won't fly with the Tories or parliament.
The pound fell a lot late on Friday, could fall again but it won't collapse until there's no hope.
Nope, the thought of tories being in power for 1 more day does tho. Guess youll be voting lib dem at the next elections?
Reunite Ireland and bring the DUP to Scotland where they belong.
the feck did scotland do to you
Interesting note in this article
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-davis-urges-cabinet-mutiny-kill-theresa-mays-230300524.html
Says that 44 of the 47 required letters to trigger a no confidence vote in the conservative party have been submitted
I do wonder if may is worried that a deal with a UK wide customs union triggers 3 more...
Gonna be an interesting few weeks... If she has An outline deal, passes the budget and is still leader by November I'll be surprised... I'm guessing it's Johnson mogg or Davies by Xmas and the hardest brexit possible
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-davis-urges-cabinet-mutiny-kill-theresa-mays-230300524.html
Says that 44 of the 47 required letters to trigger a no confidence vote in the conservative party have been submitted
I do wonder if may is worried that a deal with a UK wide customs union triggers 3 more...
Gonna be an interesting few weeks... If she has An outline deal, passes the budget and is still leader by November I'll be surprised... I'm guessing it's Johnson mogg or Davies by Xmas and the hardest brexit possible
The DUP won't pick the next Tory leader. Javid and Johnson are joint favourites at 11/2. I fancy Gove at 12/1.
Trinity of destruction.