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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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So how close is the actual Brexit to happening? Things pretty stagnant or are the negotiations getting anyplace?
Official negotiations haven't even begun, and won't before the UK pulls the trigger (triggering article 50).
It seems as if informal negotiations did not lead to anything; many politicians across EU member states and from the EU institutions indicated from conversations they had with either May, Johnson or Davis that so far the UK haven't been able to come up with anything other than "have the cake and eat it". Unsurprisingly, this is rejected.

Edit: This article gives a sense of how it's going. There was a more recent one I had in mind but can't retrieve. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ministers-boris-johnson-prosecco-claim-brexit
 
Official negotiations haven't even begun, and won't before the UK pulls the trigger (triggering article 50).
It seems as if informal negotiations did not lead to anything; many politicians across EU member states and from the EU institutions indicated from conversations they had with either May, Johnson or Davis that so far the UK haven't been able to come up with anything other than "have the cake and eat it". Unsurprisingly, this is rejected.

Edit: This article gives a sense of how it's going. There was a more recent one I had in mind but can't retrieve. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ministers-boris-johnson-prosecco-claim-brexit

That's exactly how one should negotiate in any situation in life, I want everything and I want it for free
 
You are always angling to put the blame on the EU, for example pretending that the vetoes will lengthen the process.

They will lengthen the process of any deal and that's a fact, why wouldn't it?

I don't like a lot of politicians that govern countries in the eu, I despise them, some just lie but all have followed a neo liberal policy that isn't working for most, its a joke.
 
They will lengthen the process of any deal and that's a fact, why wouldn't it?

I don't like a lot of politicians that govern countries in the eu, I despise them, some just lie but all have followed a neo liberal policy that isn't working for most, its a joke.

No they are not going to, the length is set and it's 24 months whether an agreement is found or not, that's the fact.
 
That's exactly how one should negotiate in any situation in life, I want everything and I want it for free
No need to mention that you would go all in with an unrealistic position that would piss your negotiation partners off, it's obvious from your posts.
 
They will lengthen the process of any deal and that's a fact, why wouldn't it?

I don't like a lot of politicians that govern countries in the eu, I despise them, some just lie but all have followed a neo liberal policy that isn't working for most, its a joke.

the UK politicians never lie, god bless them
 
Well the EU isn't a country, so yes France will decide alone and all the countries will do the same. For all countries the EU is under foreign policy, something that people tend to forgot.

That's not what I meant. I don't understand why a region gets a vote (i.e. Wallonia).
 
With a veto for all it will be longer. Time to move on

To move on what? We don't have to find a deal and we surely don't have to take a deal that we don't want.

Edit: Moving on solely equates to the UK leaving the EU.
 
Sorry if this has been posted before. For sure Lego toys aren't indispensable but I feel a bit sorry for parents anyway.

A letter shared on social media this week from a senior Lego executive to UK toy retailers revealed that prices would increase across the board from 1 January.

Signed by Lego UK and Ireland’s general manager and vice-president, Fiona Wright, it explained that the hike was a “direct result of the continued devaluing of the UK pound”. The letter went on to warn that the company might be forced to put up prices again in the “event of further negative trend”.

It means that a Star Wars Lego Death Star set, currently priced at £399, will go up by £20 next year, while a Doctor Who Lego will rise by £2.49 to £52.48.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-raise-its-prices-in-uk-from-january-sterling
 
May and Brexiters won't change that.


It was totally predictable. Don't WT..=me, read your posts. That attitude of yours is all over them.
No may wont change that but osbornes targets have been ditched. Still, cos neoliberalism isn't working in the eu thats no reason to copy just because uk is in the eu. Try something different.
 
That is entirely true. Tax shy brits want services for free.

I think Brits would be happy to pay more taxes if they felt they got better value for the taxes they do pay. Far too much of our taxes are currently being wasted nationally by the government and locally by councils.

I've never spoken to a Norwegian that doesn't support their tax system. They pay a fortune but are rewarded with great infrastructure.
 
I think Brits would be happy to pay more taxes if they felt they got better value for the taxes they do pay. Far too much of our taxes are currently being wasted nationally by the government and locally by councils.

I've never spoken to a Norwegian that doesn't support their tax system. They pay a fortune but are rewarded with great infrastructure.

As has the rest of Western Europe.
Anyway the Brits can spend all the money they think they're saving, on the side of a big red bus by leaving the EU, on the infrastructure and services, that is if they believe a word they've been told but then they must have done otherwise why vote to leave.
 
By the same token it makes claims that the EU is a tyrannical superstate looking to subsume national sovereignty look kinda ridiculous, doesn't it.

I like to think of it as a sort of Schrodinger's Brexit: to leavers the EU is both somehow a failed venture that'll collapse within a few years, but also a strong, powerful entity that's year away from complete federalism.
 
As has the rest of Western Europe.
Anyway the Brits can spend all the money they think they're saving, on the side of a big red bus by leaving the EU, on the infrastructure and services, that is if they believe a word they've been told but then they must have done otherwise why vote to leave.

For what it's worth, I'm firmly in the remain camp. I think our government is bad enough with the EU keeping them in check. I dread to think what they are going to be like without them.

This talk of bringing power back to Britain... I'd be all for it if I trusted the politicians that will benefit from it.
 
For what it's worth, I'm firmly in the remain camp. I think our government is bad enough with the EU keeping them in check. I dread to think what they are going to be like without them.

This talk of bringing power back to Britain... I'd be all for it if I trusted the politicians that will benefit from it.

I can't think of a politician I would trust anywhere in the world at the moment, but then again that's nothing really new, just worse than the usual. 2016 was a bad year for the world, I dread to think what 2017 will bring.