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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Just listening to Boris moaning that the problem with the Irish Protocol is that he and his government did not expect the EU to implement it to the letter of the agreement.
So, it is yet again the fault of the EU and not the UK
Anyway, he says that he can fix it.
Got to tell you Boris, you are the problem. Not the EU or NI.
You negotiated it and then told everyone that it was a wonderful thing you had agreed.
Kwasi katang was on tv complaining that the EU was at fault for taking a legalese approach...wtf does that even mean...
 
Kwasi katang was on tv complaining that the EU was at fault for taking a legalese approach...wtf does that even mean...

Just means that the EU are working in accordance with the Irish Protocol.
Shock horror.
What does the dim twat expect. It was Boris Idea.
The simple fact is that he didn't understand what he had agreed to and never intended to operate it anyway.
 
EU being 'overzealous' with checks under Northern Ireland protocol, says Rachel Reeves
Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, told Times Radio this morning that she thought the EU was being “overzealous” in the checks it wanted on goods entering Northern Ireland from Britain under the Northern Ireland protocol. But she said she wanted this resolved through negotiation, and not by the UK suspending parts of the protocol. She said:

I think the EU are being overzealous in the checks.
There are goods that are destined for market in Northern Ireland, never going to leave Northern Ireland, never going to get into the single market, which is what the EU say is their worry.
For those goods that are just moving into Northern Ireland then I just don’t think we need the level of checks the EU are pursuing.
But the way to resolve this is not through megaphone diplomacy, it’s not unilaterally ripping up the protocol, it’s by working in partnership to resolve these very real issues that do exist.

UK politicians on both sides have been clueless throughout the last six years. It will never change. They are just too thick to understand.
 
EU being 'overzealous' with checks under Northern Ireland protocol, says Rachel Reeves
Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, told Times Radio this morning that she thought the EU was being “overzealous” in the checks it wanted on goods entering Northern Ireland from Britain under the Northern Ireland protocol. But she said she wanted this resolved through negotiation, and not by the UK suspending parts of the protocol. She said:



UK politicians on both sides have been clueless throughout the last six years. It will never change. They are just too thick to understand.
They aren't too thick to understand it. They know their electorate doesn't care about being lied to, or being represented by liars. After 6 years this can hardly be blamed on the politicians anymore.
 
EU being 'overzealous' with checks under Northern Ireland protocol, says Rachel Reeves
Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, told Times Radio this morning that she thought the EU was being “overzealous” in the checks it wanted on goods entering Northern Ireland from Britain under the Northern Ireland protocol. But she said she wanted this resolved through negotiation, and not by the UK suspending parts of the protocol. She said:



UK politicians on both sides have been clueless throughout the last six years. It will never change. They are just too thick to understand.

If Labour tell the truth about the Protocol they will be accused of wanting to undo Brexit and they will make further losses to the Conservatives.

Everyone with half a brain understands the truth. We are reaping the harvest of blaming the EU for everything that went wrong with the country for nearly 50 years, as our politicians found an easy scapegoat and didn't want to take responsibility.
 
They aren't too thick to understand it. They know their electorate doesn't care about being lied to, or being represented by liars. After 6 years this can hardly be blamed on the politicians anymore.

They don't care true, but they definitely do not understand either. If they were faced with people who did understand they would be torn apart. Labour have had so many opportunities to rip the Conservatives to shreds over Brexit but partly because half of them want Brexit as well and partly because they have no clue how the EU works. Starmer and Corbyn were fake remainers but there were genuine remainers who also didn't understand what was being voted for. Of all the politicians who spoke about Brexit from either side, Labour, Tories, Leavers or Remainers ,over the past six years, none of them convinced me they actually knew what they were talking about.
 
If Labour tell the truth about the Protocol they will be accused of wanting to undo Brexit and they will make further losses to the Conservatives.

Everyone with half a brain understands the truth. We are reaping the harvest of blaming the EU for everything that went wrong with the country for nearly 50 years, as our politicians found an easy scapegoat and didn't want to take responsibility.

I know the EU have been the scapegoat ever since the UK joined back in 1973; They may have a vague idea how it works but what is the point of saying the EU is overzealous, she doesn't understand why there are checks? There is no democracy in the UK if the sole and only purpose is to get elected and abandon all principles.
 
I know the EU have been the scapegoat ever since the UK joined back in 1973; They may have a vague idea how it works but what is the point of saying the EU is overzealous, she doesn't understand why there are checks? There is no democracy in the UK if the sole and only purpose is to get elected and abandon all principles.

Labour need to win back the Red Wall seats, and as a result they will avoid doing anything to upset them, knowing they voted to Leave. They also know that the Government have few ideas, but one of them is to fall back on getting Brexit done and trying to re-run the 2019 election. Which is why you won't see Labour criticising Brexit in any substantive way.

And yes, I agree that all three major political parties who have been in power this century have shown that they will abandon principles in order to get elected.
 
Labour need to win back the Red Wall seats, and as a result they will avoid doing anything to upset them, knowing they voted to Leave. They also know that the Government have few ideas, but one of them is to fall back on getting Brexit done and trying to re-run the 2019 election. Which is why you won't see Labour criticising Brexit in any substantive way.

And yes, I agree that all three major political parties who have been in power this century have shown that they will abandon principles in order to get elected.

I get your point, but it's one thing criticising Brexit and another saying what she said. What she should be doing is ensuring that the goods intended for Northern Ireland are labelled for Northern Ireland only, that the Conservative government puts in place the necessary procedures to ensure that there is no danger that prohibited goods enter the EU; she's got it all wrong because she doesn't understand why the EU need the checks. You can't negotiate something that's not negotiable.

There is still the impression that the EU are upset the UK left and want to punish the UK. It was a pity but it's done, there's no going back. If the UK want Brexit they can have it but they have to live with what they voted for and they don't seem to want to.
 
Staggering poll shows 94% of readers believe ‘we haven’t got the Brexit we voted for'
BREXIT promises have not been delivered, according to a new poll of Express.co.uk readers.
By NATALIE CROOKHAM
13:40, Mon, May 16, 2022 | UPDATED: 14:03, Mon, May 16, 2022

Be interested to know exactly what they thought Brexit would look like.

In another poll - 100% of readers didn't have a f**king clue what they voted for.
 
Staggering poll shows 94% of readers believe ‘we haven’t got the Brexit we voted for'
BREXIT promises have not been delivered, according to a new poll of Express.co.uk readers.
By NATALIE CROOKHAM
13:40, Mon, May 16, 2022 | UPDATED: 14:03, Mon, May 16, 2022

Be interested to know exactly what they thought Brexit would look like.

In another poll - 100% of readers didn't have a f**king clue what they voted for.

You're talking about Daily Express readers, what did you expect?
 
Staggering poll shows 94% of readers believe ‘we haven’t got the Brexit we voted for'
BREXIT promises have not been delivered, according to a new poll of Express.co.uk readers.
By NATALIE CROOKHAM
13:40, Mon, May 16, 2022 | UPDATED: 14:03, Mon, May 16, 2022

Be interested to know exactly what they thought Brexit would look like.

In another poll - 100% of readers didn't have a f**king clue what they voted for.

As far as I can remember, the referendum was a very simple:
Should the UK remain a member of the EU, or leave the EU.
Apart from that, the leave campaign and to a lesser degree the remain campaign were based upon lies and an unobtainable illusion -leave and scare tactics - remain.
Nobody but nobody who voted in 2016 had any idea what the final outcome was going to be because that took many years to conclude including the transition period.
And even now, things have not yet settled down.
And if those who voted leave don't like what has happened, just think for a few seconds what the 48% who voted remain think.
Tough sh1t. Get used to it.
You were sold a lie.
 
You'd get more sense from an Irish turnip.

I used to like her song though , "Whiskey in the Jar" by Thick Lizzy

I googled that Thick Lizzy and you better be careful old man, your heart ain't that youthful anymore. :angel:
 
Well he does have French lineage on his mother's side and Turkish lineage on his father's.

His son Boris born in the USA - all a bit of a mess, a Turkish delight, no, not even an Eton Mess

Boris - just a soggy mess.
That reads like a quote from Boris after being asked if he was going to help families with the cost of living crisis.
 
Jesus Christ.

Boris Johnson to reportedly bring back imperial measurements to mark platinum jubilee

Move is an apparent attempt to win support from Brexit voters in seats Tories fear losing

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...mperial-measurements-to-mark-platinum-jubilee

What a spiffing idea Boris.
But why stop at pounds and ounces.
Let's go back to:
Pounds, shillings, pence, thrupenny bits and farthings.
Yards, feet and inches.
Bushels, Pecks, Rods, Chain and Perch.
I am all for choice. But let's move with the times, forward not backwards.

And why stop there.
Lets go back to Workhouses, Poor Law and sending little boys up chimneys to earn a farthing a week.
Gets my vote....
 
They don't want that foreign metric malarkey.

Going full imperial should kill any remaining export trade they had left. Everything is metric.

Everything is metric, (except the US).
But everyone else should really come into line with us shouldn't they, including driving on the left side of the road.
 
Everything is metric, (except the US).
But everyone else should really come into line with us shouldn't they, including driving on the left side of the road.

If the Uk ships to anywhere in the world including the US, all shipping is in metric. I did it for over thirty years, US companies were our biggest customers. Also the US imperial system isn't the same as the UK. So if they produce in imperial they still have to convert to metric so it is not really related to Brexit, it applies worldwide.
 
If the Uk ships to anywhere in the world including the US, all shipping is in metric. I did it for over thirty years, US companies were our biggest customers. Also the US imperial system isn't the same as the UK. So if they produce in imperial they still have to convert to metric so it is not really related to Brexit, it applies worldwide.

Although it's ridiculous and a pure symbolic move to prove we can "make our own rules". we're not going back to the imperial system. Supposedly the change will be to allow shops to sell in imperial measures again if they want.

No-one will apart from the odd shop sponsored by Rees Mogg I imagine.
 
Although it's ridiculous and a pure symbolic move to prove we can "make our own rules". we're not going back to the imperial system. Supposedly the change will be to allow shops to sell in imperial measures again if they want.

No-one will apart from the odd shop sponsored by Rees Mogg I imagine.

Of course, it would be another suicidal move, it's just to get the flag wavers going again.
 
And why stop there.
Lets go back to Workhouses, Poor Law and sending little boys up chimneys to earn a farthing a week.
Gets my vote....
also.....
Boris might be arguing for the reinstate the 'Corn Laws'... that will be his next 'big wheeze...' grow more at home, (especially as we can't get any from Ukraine) the UK should think of others less fortunate and not be siphoning-off the worlds grain supplies at a time like this.

.... oh yes and gun boats, must have more gun boats, to put the wind up 'johnny foreigner'. Bring back ship building on the Clyde, just the ticket, one in the eye for Sturgeon! ;)
 
Applying for an ETIAS online will be easy and fast, since it will not take more than ten minutes to complete and only requires a valid travel document. Once granted, the ETIAS visa waiver will be valid for a period of three years and will be a multiple-entry permit, meaning that it would cover any trips within its validity period.

We'll see how true that first line is but people will over hype it. Getting swabbed for covid was more annoying.

Hopefully King Boris will respond with a system of own to keep those pesky Europeans out.
 
We'll see how true that first line is but people will over hype it. Getting swabbed for covid was more annoying.

Hopefully King Boris will respond with a system of own to keep those pesky Europeans out.

He already has, EU citizens can't use their ID cards any more, so those who don't want to spend money on passports ( a lot of people) won't go to the UK.