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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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The protocol stipulates that goods 'not at risk' of entering the EU avoid duties when moved from GB to NI. The fear expressed by @devilish and others is that exporters will falsely designate their goods as for 'NI only' on customs paperwork, and then be able to move them from NI into the EU due to its place in the Single Market. If this was happening at any scale you would see an increase in GB-NI trade as businesses took advantage of this potential backdoor.

When we talk about 'smuggling', we just mean avoiding duties, not literally sneaking them across the water on ghost boats like a pirate.

This is of course already happening with businesses that sell to ROI. It doesn't register as an increase in GB-NI trade because most goods to ROI were already going via NI. Its not cost effective to set up an operation in NI just to get goods to mainland EU and ROI market is fairly small in the scheme of things.
 
An ignorant English wanker lecturing the Irish about their history. Why do they keep giving that twat oxygen?
 
He’s a muppet, probably didn’t take much to lead him

That's amazing, a british nationalist paid to say an irish republican slogan and he seemingly didn't realize until it was too late or he has money issues. :lol:

PS: calling him a british nationalist is accurate?
 
The UK must be the only country in history that negotiate to become worse off.

Having negotiated with the EU to have an awful deal compared to what they had being a member.
Then the rollover deals which they negotiated to be worse than when they were in the EU. Not all of them have been rolled over yet either.
Possible Aus and NZ deals which they'd be better off without as it hurts UK industry.

Then Frost is trying to negotiate to make Northern Ireland lose the benefits they have that GB doesn't.

In the unlikely event that the UK ever negotiate a deal with the USA, with whom they currently have a trade surplus place your bets on the outcome of that negotiation.

Anyway, wave a flag!
 
Naughty France. Having to have their Ambassador summoned by Liz Truss for a slap on the wrist over fishing.
I am sure that Liz will tell the Ambassador off for expecting the UK actually honour its Brexit obligations.
 
Naughty France. Having to have their Ambassador summoned by Liz Truss for a slap on the wrist over fishing.
I am sure that Liz will tell the Ambassador off for expecting the UK actually honour its Brexit obligations.

The UK government are desperately looking for a distraction. Something to get the flag-waving nationalists going.
January 1st is looming and the rules of origin become more onerous.
Tories realise there are no beneficial trade deals to be done.
Flag waving and the ridiculous freeports scheme is all that's left.
 
I was looking to buy something from the UK via ebay yesterday. Import duties were over 200 euros, which was half the price of the item!

It's bonkers.
Yeah I’ve stopped using U.K. suppliers on Amazon. It’s just too expensive.
lots of U.K. business now feeling the pain I’d say
 
So, trying to summarize:

-More than 6 years ago, the party in power was afraid of losing the election due to the relative growth of a minor "fringe" political party in Northern Ireland.

-Therefore, the PM at the time thought a good way to appease them was throwing them a bone: in this case, a Brexit referendum. The gig worked and the party held the majority and won the election.

-One year later, the Brexit referendum spinned out of control, with blatant lies and disinformation running rampant and even an MP killed during the campaign. With nobody on the breaks and on the birth of a new kind of election to which nobody was prepared for, Brexit won by a very small margin.

-Having spectacularly miscalculated the effects of his move, the strongly anti Brexit PM makes a last act of cowardice and resigns, leaving a path for the pro Brexit faction of the party to ascend to power.

-A new PM arrives, and it somehow manages to make the situation worse: her Brexit proposals get rejected 3 times and the party loses their majority in general elections, forcing them to reinforce their suicide pact with the fringe Brexit parties. In the meantime she puts in motion all the legal arrangements that make Brexit inevitable, and gets rewarded by being forced to resign in favor of the more extreme, pro Brexit side of the party.

-Finally a new openly pro Brexit PM arrives, and even though the UK is halfway through the deadline to make Brexit work, he decides to go all out on no deal, aggressively refusing to do anything similar to a somewhat organized transition process and therefore losing the good faith of his counterparts in the negotiation and the trust of the international community. Nevertheless, these actions are interpreted internally as the ones of a strong leader fighting for his country, and he wins the elections in a landslide paving the way for a chaotic no deal Brexit.

-Prior to the elections, the opposition got a window of opportunity (graciously handed by the new PM's ineptitude in trying to close the parlament) of getting together, get the ruling party out and starting to dismantle the Brexit process or at least to mitigate the most damaging parts of it. They failed miserably in the first task, the "get together" one, and therefore secured their place in history as accomplices by incompetence.

-Less than one month before the deadline and after selling for years the idea of a no deal the PM shows a surprise eleventh hour deal, with shortcomings instantly visible to anyone willing to read it. Anyway, that doesn't stop the PM from exaggerately praising the deal and calling Brexit complete (the Brexit minister position surprisingly keeps existing though).

-Approximately 6 months into Brexit, when the damage done has become pretty clear, the PM and his staff start reneging on the deal they just signed and congratulated themselves on, blaming the opposition in the process. He also threatened to break international agreements over the irish border, after failing to put protocols in place that everyone knew were neccesary 5 years ago. These issues have also halted any options of a quick deal with the US, making the problem even worse.

-10 months after Brexit the current PM has nowhere to go (except for continuing escalating the conflict with his main partners), the 2 previous ones are MIA (one wrote a book I think) and the fringe party that started it all has returned to his usual irrelevant place in UK elections. The ruling party looks comfortable though.
 
If Labour win the next election (which is likely now right, whomever the leader is?) could they undo Brexit and rejoin the EU without needing to ask us plebs?

In fact, with all the hurt our xenophobic manufacturers, workers, farmers, fishermen are going to face in the next couple of years, would it be the perfect election winning manifesto?
 
I was looking to buy something from the UK via ebay yesterday. Import duties were over 200 euros, which was half the price of the item!

It's bonkers.

I used to trade a lot of collectibles with british collectors but just had to stop. Even when marked as "gifts" I still have to pay custom fees for everything that comes from the UK. One of them made a living out of selling football collectibles to european collectors and had to close it because the prices were no longer competitive. He hates brexiters.
 
If Labour win the next election (which is likely now right, whomever the leader is?) could they undo Brexit and rejoin the EU without needing to ask us plebs?

In fact, with all the hurt our xenophobic manufacturers, workers, farmers, fishermen are going to face in the next couple of years, would it be the perfect election winning manifesto?

Aren't labour as brexity as the other party which is how Corbyn became popular?
 
I used to trade a lot of collectibles with british collectors but just had to stop. Even when marked as "gifts" I still have to pay custom fees for everything that comes from the UK. One of them made a living out of selling football collectibles to european collectors and had to close it because the prices were no longer competitive. He hates brexiters.
It's just another example of the gift that keeps on giving. :(