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sullydnl said:


Are imperial measures even still taught in schools in the UK?
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No, that's why it's possible now, because it's pretty irrelevant. And if some old gadger wants to sell his black puddings in pounds on Bury market and his doddering old customers like it who cares? It will be absolutely gutting for him to find his multi-million pound export wagon being turned back at Calais customs though.

Of course it could be the start of a genuine reversal of metrification but is there anyone here actually dim enough to consider that's going to happen? You can make your own mind up on that one.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
So they're trying ensure NI don' t continue to get the benefits the rest of the UK aren't getting, levelling up.
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If for some reason starting tomorrow it was decided that every home in Britain will have it's toilet removed and everyone had to use a chamber pot going forward. The DUP would rip their own toilets out.
 
anyone who argues for Brexit being a WIN on the basis of imperial measurements becoming more a thing, is way past reasoning with.

some great threads on twitter from measurement experts (some in the employ of UK govt agencies) tearing this idea to pieces. some of the responses to them from brexit mainacs are mind boggling.
 
Brexiters will have their ideal Britain soon

White people eating spam sandwiches at tea time before the lights go out.
 
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Cheimoon said:
This seems like such a bit of silly nostalgia! :lol:

(Returning to imperial measures I mean, not you Paul. ;) )
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:)
I'm in my mid-60s and we stopped being taught imperial measure in primary school; it's a load of flag-waving stupidity as per everything that comes from the Uk government.
Having done a load of trade with the USA they are still partly in imperial measures but different imperial measures.

Problem is it is quite evident not one single member of the government has the first clue about trade.
Although this imperial measure thing is silly nonsense, the changing of standards and the new UKCA standard they want to bring in 2023 (postponed from 2022) is going to have a disastrous effect on both exports and imports because they do not understand what the implications are. They really don't.
 
The going back to Imperial measures reeks of insanity. What's next? Obligatory bowler hats in state schools?

What are they trying to accomplish. What kind of vision do they have for Great Britain in 2030 other than a bunch of words like sovereignty, freedom etc...
 
RoyH1 said:
The going back to Imperial measures reeks of insanity. What's next? Obligatory bowler hats in state schools?

What are they trying to accomplish. What kind of vision do they have for Great Britain in 2030 other than a bunch of words like sovereignty, freedom etc...
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You only need to look at or listen to Rees Mogg for 10 seconds to understand where this nonsense comes from.
 
sullydnl said:
Are imperial measures even still taught in schools in the UK?
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making a return (apparently)!

Weight Measures
all together now, in a sing-song voice ...
16 ounces (oz) = 1 pound (Ib);
14 Ib = 1 Stone (st);
2 st or 28 lb = 1 quarter (qtr);
4 qtr or 112 lb = 1 hundredweight (cwt);
20 cwt or 2240 lb = 1 ton....

and repeat..........
Easy peasy!!

for your homework look up the Imperial - Volume, Area, Length, Measures
 
Paul the Wolf said:


Reminds me of the kilometres
Why Michael Caine was wearing a headscarf at the beginning is beyond me.
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The first one is a classic, everytime I see it I can't get over the fact that while it is stupid, it is also endearing.

Edit: I also like the guy who did 10 years in a 5 years long war.
 
Paul the Wolf said:


Reminds me of the kilometres
Why Michael Caine was wearing a headscarf at the beginning is beyond me.
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That last bloke nearly sacrificed his life, and not to get rid of fascism and nazism, but so we can keep dividing things into twelfths. I must have missed that Churchill speech.
 
decorativeed said:
That last bloke nearly sacrificed his life, and not to get rid of fascism and nazism, but so we can keep dividing things into twelfths. I must have missed that Churchill speech.
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"Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious metric apparatus of the Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our measurement system whatever the cost may be.

We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender our miles and pounds and pints."
 
So in order to placate a bunch of idiots who have had forty fecking years to learn the new system and still can't understand it, we're going to feck everything up for 90% of the population? Cool, cool.

We'll see United Transfer Fee style conversions as well so businesses can line their pockets with a few extra crowns. "1 pound of sugar, mate? That's about half a kilo in Johnny Foreigner. 1kg of sugar used to cost you about £1.60, so in pounds that's.... Twice the price for 0.46 pounds which makes 1 pound cost... Let's round up to £7, yeah? And since a pound is half a kilo let's double the pounds to £14. That'll be £36 plus the social care tax. So that's £287, mate."
 
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Mr Pigeon said:
So in order to placate a bunch of idiots who have had forty fecking years to learn the new system and still can't understand it, we're going to feck everything up for 90% of the population? Cool, cool.

We'll see United Transfer Fee style conversions as well so businesses can line their pockets with a few extra crowns. "1 pound of sugar, mate? That's about half a kilo in Johnny Foreigner. 1kg of sugar used to cost you about £1.60, so in pounds that's.... Twice the price for 0.46 pounds which makes 1 pound cost... Let's round up to £7, yeah? And since a pound is half a kilo let's double the pounds to £14. That'll be £36 plus the social care tax. So that's £287, mate."
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If schools are going to teach this, it will set us back years in wasted time. I've got to the stage where I don't care if those idiots sell it as some propaganda like they do everything else but if they really mean it...
 
Stanley Road said:
I still use imperial measurements, not sure what is wrong with that.
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There's no problem with you or other people using them now, but we should be teaching schoolkids the system that will likely be used worldwide not some defunct measure. I think it's 3 countries worldwide who still officially use non-metric measures (one of which is the US)?
 
Balljy said:
There's no problem with you or other people using them now, but we should be teaching schoolkids the system that will likely be used worldwide not some defunct measure. I think it's 3 countries worldwide who still officially use non-metric measures (one of which is the US)?
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Will you be happy with a half litre in the pub for the same price?
 
Balljy said:
There's no problem with you or other people using them now, but we should be teaching schoolkids the system that will likely be used worldwide not some defunct measure. I think it's 3 countries worldwide who still officially use non-metric measures (one of which is the US)?
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Myanmar and Liberia. The US system is not the same as the UK one.
For trading with other countries it has to be metric.

No-one cares if the old bloke goes down the pub and asks for a pint but trying to be global Britain using an imperial system is insanity.
 
These people are beyond parody.

They’re getting excited about the crown stamp going back on a pint glass too.

Genuinely just utterly utterly stupid.
 
Rado_N said:
These people are beyond parody.

They’re getting excited about the crown stamp going back on a pint glass too.

Genuinely just utterly utterly stupid.
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Just imagining Bruce or Tarquin proudly looking at the crown stamp and saying "Aaaaaaaahhhhhh! Now that's a proper British pint!" as they take a sip of their Stella Artois or Carlsberg*

*They would drink their local stout but the brewery shut down because they couldn't export their product anymore.
 
Stanley Road said:
Thats what happens, it always does. I remember the disaster when the euro came in and the only thing that changed was the symbol of the money on the price tag
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You are making no sense, why would the volume of the same container change based on the unit that you use? Current pints in the UK are an Imperial Pint or 568.26mL, the volume is constant. Unless british pubs decide to use french pints, your pint will have the same volume regardless of the unit that you use.
 
JPRouve said:
You are making no sense, why would the volume of the same container change based on the unit that you use? Current pints in the UK are an Imperial Pint or 568.26mL, the volume is constant. Unless british pubs decide to use french pints, your pint will have the same volume regardless of the unit that you use.
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I think you miss the point, if they start using half litre glasses to be all 'European' i doubt they would change the price. Not too hard to undestand is it? Or should i explain it in Esperanto? ;)
 
Stanley Road said:
I think you miss the point, if they start using half litre glasses to be all 'European' i doubt they would change the price. Not too hard to undestand is it? Or should i explain it in Esperanto? ;)
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Of course I missed the point, that's why I said that what you wrote made no sense in the context of a change of standard unit. Now your point is interesting because I wonder who is "they" and why they would use half liter glasses, there is a bunch of different volumes called a pint, some are larger than the Imperial pint and others are smaller and since you used 500ml as an example while it's called a pinte in french, the equivalent of an Imperial pint is a chopine.

All of that to say that it is the reason why the metric system makes more sense, a liter is a liter everywhere.
 
Stanley Road said:
I think you miss the point, if they start using half litre glasses to be all 'European' i doubt they would change the price. Not too hard to undestand is it? Or should i explain it in Esperanto? ;)
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Why would the UK have suddenly started doing that to be all 'European' (an illogical phrase anyway as the UK is, has always been and will always be 'European' ) when they'd been part of the EU for decades at that point?

Or were the bogeyman EU not even going to allow us to pour pints in the way we wanted to anymore?
 
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