Whenever the government give numbers like this I always look to see if they mean per year or over a ten year period.From The Independent....https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-japan-trade-deal-brexit-agreement-eu-b421841.html
'The government said businesses will benefit from tariff-free trade on 99 per cent of exports to Japan, delivering a £1.5bn boost to the UK, claiming manufacturers, food and drink producers and the tech sector will see the greatest benefits'.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Fifteen. (on the assumption that Japanese people will actually buy Cornish Pasties and Stilton cheese)
To put it into perspective Unilever sell £1.5bn per month of beauty and care products alone.
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Pft, my postcode's heroin intake is more than that per month as well.
Apparently it will increase GDP by 0.07%. But we are estimated to lose 7.6% of GDP in a no deal Brexit.
Pffft. My personal heroin intake is more than that
I don't think time is the reason he won't be allowing questions.
'Necessary to stop a foreign power from breaking up our country'?? What a steaming pile of fecking hypocritical gibberish.
I wonder if he's ever read any Irish history?
Indeed. And judging by his behaviour during PMQs, he will not answer their questions anyway.
What's more of a mess? The PM's plan or that shitly written tweet? This is why I hate news being reported via Twitter.
Also, he sold this in the manifesto as a great deal. Oven ready. It is the Tories deal FFS. Now they are saying it threatens the country and we must defend the country against their own deal.
Had to read it three times.
As parliament is deemed sovereign and can introduce any law they like, tomorrow Johnson will introduce a Bill to parliament declaring himself President of the USA, Emperor of Japan and King of the Fairies. "We no longer care about International Law" declared Johnson. "We've taken back control!"
Braverman is taking a mauling in the Observer/Guardian today...
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-suella-braverman-for-wrecking-uks-reputation
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-suella-braverman-for-wrecking-uks-reputation
That's partly true, all over the world!
Isn't the UK already in breach of International law on sovereignty over the Falklands? Isn't China building a 'dummy' island in the South China sea so that it can claim territorial sovereignty in breach of International law ? Aren't the Russians knocking off their dissidents with biological weapons that can kill thousands of innocent bystanders, all over the world, in defiance of International laws?
I can understand the EU getting 'miffed' with Boris over wanting to re-write the fine print in the WA, even though the UK has always took the view that 'nothing is agreed until everything is agreed', but going on about international laws as though these were never defied by various countries when it suited them, is equally OTT!
I suppose this craziness will continue right up to the deadline then both sides will either suddenly find a way out of the maze, or go over the cliff edge together like Thelma and Louise!
It has nothing to do with being miffed. There is no value in agreeing anything with someone like Boris Johnson.
Yes, that's probably true, a bit like his hero Churchill he likes to keep opponents 'hopping from one foot to another' and both were men who brought guns to knife fights. I suppose leading the Tory party, duplicity is a prerequisite attribute.
Well there's duplicity and then there's agreeing something and signing that agreement in writing and then claiming it isn't what it is. In my personal life I wouldn't entertain any sort of continued contact with someone acting like that, and I have no clue how anyone else can work around that. Why even discuss anything in the future when the outcome of those discussions are worthless because the other side is inherently dishonest?
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Do you really want the UK to be known in he same classification of countries as Russia and China?
The UK may be regarded as a bit eccentric but despite its flaws over the years it was regarded as a country with some honour and respect. Cummings and Johnson are destroying the UK's reputation for a pointless exercise. This will never become law, it will never be acceptable in the international community and it certainly won't help in negotiating trade deals with the EU or having negotiations with anybody else.
The UK doesn't need enemies, their biggest enemies are in their own government and they've convinced the gullible Brexiteers to cheer them on.
The only country going over the cliff edge would be the UK. I still don't get (apart from media brainwashing in the UK) how British people think the EU will be affected by a no deal in remotely the same way as the UK.
Do you really want the UK to be known in he same classification of countries as Russia and China?
The UK may be regarded as a bit eccentric but despite its flaws over the years it was regarded as a country with some honour and respect. Cummings and Johnson are destroying the UK's reputation for a pointless exercise. This will never become law, it will never be acceptable in the international community and it certainly won't help in negotiating trade deals with the EU or having negotiations with anybody else.
The UK doesn't need enemies, their biggest enemies are in their own government and they've convinced the gullible Brexiteers to cheer them on.
The only country going over the cliff edge would be the UK. I still don't get (apart from media brainwashing in the UK) how British people think the EU will be affected by a no deal in remotely the same way as the UK.
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I think the other issue is that the UK is breaching an international treaty that is less than a year old, was negotiated in good faith and was pushed for by the UK as a fantastic deal for the country.
Taking China for example, it is different to their actions, which involves them creating bases and artificial islands to take advantage of the Convention of the Law of the Sea and claiming territory as a result, and the Falklands, where the UK and Argentina have competing claims in international law.
Taking China for example, it is different to their actions, which involves them creating bases and artificial islands to take advantage of the Convention of the Law of the Sea and claiming territory as a result, and the Falklands, where the UK and Argentina have competing claims in international law.
That is the age old tale of the strong bullying the weak, this time you seen to have picked in somebody your own size.
With @Frosty: do you really think any of those examples are equivalent/comparable to breaching an agreement in which the UK was one of only two parties involved, that's only one year old, that involved long and painful negotiations, and that only very recently was celebrated by the very same UK government as a success? They can't even say that they are correcting the mistake of a different government!
I think we already are!
Only when we are making silly/idiotic gesture or moves and/or we are not doing what we are told, otherwise we are corrupt Imperialists bent on keeping an Empire going!
That's true, but we have them just the same!
Really, the same size as the EU, my goodness, I thought we were just some offshore island, too big for our boots!
It won't. And in a few short months, those gullible people you referred to are going to have to face up to the reality of their actions.
It makes zero sense to fall out in a major way with one of your biggest trading partners especially one so close by and who we share such history with.
Leaving the EU is bad enough. But showing such scant regard to our honesty and integrity and rule of law is overstepping what is acceptable.
This government is taking the UK into a very dangerous place.
I don't see any end goal here that makes economic sense for us, nor a strategy designed to get us there.
Unless the tories always wanted the hardest of possible Brexits, ie no deal, despite having no mandate for it, and the torching of all our international relationships, despite having no mandate for that.
It is bewildering and nobody voted for this manipulative, lying shite. They have to be kicked out.
We don't need a Churchill, this isn't war, we need a Bismarck.
The UK contribute a much smaller proportion towards the EU economy than the EU contributes towards the UK economy.
If we go over the cliff together, they will have a safety rope and we will plummet.
I pretty much concur with all of this post.
Actually, someone much bigger!
Who also makes up 43% of our exports.
"The EU, taken as a whole is the UK’s largest trading partner. In 2019, UK exports to the EU were £300 billion (43% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £372 billion (51% of all UK imports)."
Sadly the majority of these people are so entrenched, no future issues will ever be accepted as being down to Brexit.
At this point it seems like the equivalent of the Tories simply pushing the self destruct button on the UK economy.
Regrettably. They strongly believe that the 80 seat majority gives them a mandate to do whatever they choose. All I can hope for is that this unilaterally breaking of the Withdrawal Agreement becomes a step too far. But realistically that is unlikely to happen.
Yes, in total terms that is true, but for some individual EU countries/industries being denied free access to the UK markets will be devastating, Ireland in particular, and the fishing dispute will for some be devastating as well. The truth is nobody benefits from a cliff edge scenario and hence all politicians in the UK and EU have to find someway forward, some sort of fudge, that suits nobody but gets all the politicians off their own Petard.
Boris has a slight advantage in that he doesn't have to test overall public opinion in a GE for 3 or 4 years and has the cover of Covid to help explain shortfalls in the economy. Not so in many EU countries, Ireland's economy is of course the obvious first casualty, in that respect. Boris can get away with 'huffing and puffing' for a while, maybe get some sort of basic deal or another extension (in all but name) but if he pi**es-off too many hard core Brexiteers his whole agenda for moving forward, especially with reaction/responses to Covid will be threatened, even with a seemingly untouchable 80 seat majority.
Knife edge stuff all the way... so who will bring a gun to the knife fight?
His immediate test is getting the Bill through the Commons. It looks like he is going to have a sizeable rebellion to deal with.
Brexit: Geoffrey Cox says PM 'damaging' UK's reputation with bill https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54142845
Yes, it will be interesting to see what sort of rebellion he does face in the end and whether his 'night of the long knives' in the last Parliament, when he slung out 20-30 rebels, has had any impact. Tories are renowned for their 'survival instincts'.
I actually think this is playing well for Boris. They now have the opportunity to pull it so as not to damage the EU talks further whilst still getting credit from the brexiteers for trying to fight the EU.
If they go through with it they're fecking mental.
If they go through with it they're fecking mental.
He's alienating more moderate Tories and how can he pull it without losing face in front of the rabid Brexit-supporting right? I can't see any way in which this approach can be considered successful.
I don't think Johnson cares what the Brexit voters think anymore or anyone else for that matter. They've served their purpose, got Brexit through and got Johnson elected to PM.
Next step is to make money for his mates. The results of Brexit will range from very bad at best with a good deal to catastrophic with no deal and international law breaking.
When it all goes wrong which he expects , 2024 GE will still be a long way off.
Next step is to make money for his mates. The results of Brexit will range from very bad at best with a good deal to catastrophic with no deal and international law breaking.
When it all goes wrong which he expects , 2024 GE will still be a long way off.