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Seriously? I can't say I've ever met a 10 year old with those kind of interests. Weird.

Aside from that the handwriting etc all looks far too polished for a child of that age. That entire letter screams middle aged man, not a kid.

Seriously yeah. His parents were teachers though and he was a high achiever. Went onto a private school for secondary education.
 
What fecking 10 year old gives a shit about Brexit :lol:.

The (fellow leaver) bit had me in stitches.
Radio 4's Any Questions had a 10 year-old ask a question about climate change tonight. 'How old are you?' asked Dimbleby (he still does the radio questions) and I was hoping the kid would reply 'old enough to know when I'm being fecking patronised', but it wasn't to be.
 
'How do you do, fellow kids?'
Dear Steve,

My name is Michael Richard Pigeon and I am five years old. I'd just like to express my gratitude to your party for vigorously defending my right to wear underwear on the top of my head. Not since the days of Winston Churchill, whom I shared a dorm with when we were but lads, have we seen such a character of scrupulous intentions towards the plight of the truly forgotten souls in our glorious nation. I tell my grandchildren every day of a perfect world where men, but not women obviously, can be free to live their lives in underwear headed glory me likey moo cow milk.

Yours, always, Michael Richard Pigeon Senior Esquire
 
Dear Steve,

My name is Michael Richard Pigeon and I am five years old. I'd just like to express my gratitude to your party for vigorously defending my right to wear underwear on the top of my head. Not since the days of Winston Churchill, whom I shared a dorm with when we were but lads, have we seen such a character of scrupulous intentions towards the plight of the forgotten souls in our glorious nation. me likey moo cow milk.

Yours, always, Michael Richard Pigeon Senior Esquire
Dear Master Pigeon,
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Brainwash is a term from the Seventies, essentially. Nice going, '10 year old'.
 
I don’t think the EU was mentioned once in the entirety of my education.
We had a woman come in to assembly and do a presentation when I was c12-13 about how the EU had given us a passport, an anthem and I can't remember what else. It was the worst sales pitch ever to a bunch of bored kids.
 
I’d say it’s a bit of both. You can live a relatively comfortable life on benefits in the UK these days but that’s probably a debate for another thread
What? Your social welfare is dreadful compared to most of the EU. Your dole isn't even half of what we get in Ireland.
 
Radio 4's Any Questions had a 10 year-old ask a question about climate change tonight. 'How old are you?' asked Dimbleby (he still does the radio questions) and I was hoping the kid would reply 'old enough to know when I'm being fecking patronised', but it wasn't to be.

So what has his age got to do with anything.
If anything, he is even more entitled to ask because for sure it is going to be his generation that will be more affected.
 


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Remarkable that he and his team thought anyone would believe this.

There’s so much to unpack, what 10 year old knows to capitalise the P in Party when referring to a political entity. Or the use of ellipses, and not an speck of smeared ink or crossed out mistakes?

Plus what 10 year old is called Jim? :lol:


Whilst very transparent this is actually clever from Nigel and I hate these tactics.

It's that obvious it has to be a plant. They know liberals will come out in big numbers to call BS and Brexiteers will double down. They've seen a few points drop in opinion polls since the EU elections and this kind of nonsense keeps the divide, the us versus them and solidifies his support. We see it with Trump's blatant lies all the time, it's all planned.

The problem is, I don't blame people for coming out and outright mocking Nigel for this because it's that obvious, but that's exactly the outcome they've wanted from it. Played perfectly.
 


That’s a very convenient poll for the current Labour leadership (Milne, McCluskey etc) and does not tally with voting at the recent European elections. Most of the no deal mob either don’t understand what no deal means (it’s not an add on to the status quo) or are too old and wealthy to care. If only there was an effective opposition from the supposed party of the working man to this act of national self-mutilation. But instead of Kinnock, Smith, Blair, Brown or Miliband, we have a thick as two short planks* superannuated student protester..

*private school and E at A-level. That’s alnost an achievement.
 
That’s a very convenient poll for the current Labour leadership (Milne, McCluskey etc) and does not tally with voting at the recent European elections. Most of the no deal mob either don’t understand what no deal means (it’s not an add on to the status quo) or are too old and wealthy to care. If only there was an effective opposition from the supposed party of the working man to this act of national self-mutilation. But instead of Kinnock, Smith, Blair, Brown or Miliband, we have a thick as two short planks* superannuated student protester..

*private school and E at A-level. That’s alnost an achievement.

It does.
No deal = Brexit + UKIP = 33.7
Hard leave = Tories + DUP = 9.5
Soft leave = Labour = 13.7
Remain = LD+CUK+Greens+SNP = 19.6+3.5+11.8+3.3 = 38.2

What seems to be happening is that the majority of the Tory and some of the Labour vote is going to no deal, while the rest of the labour vote is going into 2nd ref.
 
That’s a very convenient poll for the current Labour leadership (Milne, McCluskey etc) and does not tally with voting at the recent European elections. Most of the no deal mob either don’t understand what no deal means (it’s not an add on to the status quo) or are too old and wealthy to care. If only there was an effective opposition from the supposed party of the working man to this act of national self-mutilation. But instead of Kinnock, Smith, Blair, Brown or Miliband, we have a thick as two short planks* superannuated student protester..

*private school and E at A-level. That’s alnost an achievement.
This is unfair on Corbyn, who is (at least to my eyes) well-read and thoughtful, and as shown in that FT piece regarding Oxford - high academic achievement doesn't correlate with suitability for high office.
 
This is unfair on Corbyn, who is (at least to my eyes) well-read and thoughtful, and as shown in that FT piece regarding Oxford - high academic achievement doesn't correlate with suitability for high office.

Come on, he’s not some working class kid fighting the odds. He was a posh kid who was sent to the school for rich thick kids (see also Martin Edwards). He still is which is why he is utterly unsuited to responding to the current crisis created by the Tories.
 
That’s a very convenient poll for the current Labour leadership (Milne, McCluskey etc) and does not tally with voting at the recent European elections. Most of the no deal mob either don’t understand what no deal means (it’s not an add on to the status quo) or are too old and wealthy to care. If only there was an effective opposition from the supposed party of the working man to this act of national self-mutilation. But instead of Kinnock, Smith, Blair, Brown or Miliband, we have a thick as two short planks* superannuated student protester..

*private school and E at A-level. That’s alnost an achievement.
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Firstly well done for having so much confidence while also talking so much shite. Clearly those labour giants you mentioned have had a effect on you.


I thought losing a referendum and then losing EU elections(The Brexit Party won)might show to some that this country doesn't like or want to be in the EU(And sadly you'll lose if there's another referendum)

You've had your shite marches, you've painted your faces blue and yellow and have spent millions of pounds trying to change people minds. Of all which has made the country hate you even more.

It turns out brexit isn't about the breakdown of liberal politics, English nationalism or that neoliberalism has failed. Brexit happened because Corbyn didn't talk to enough Yorkshire coal miners and failed his a levels.


Truly breathtaking political analysis you've got there mate.
 
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This is bizarre framing. Is he saying that Jeremy Corbyn should've helped vote through May's deal in order to head off no deal and Farage, and that the PV campaign stopped him?
I just read it as PV due to the way it has campaigned since leave won has turned anyone who is for leaving the EU into hard believing NO dealers.

If peope like Campbel are on television saying with a straight face, leave voters has been lied to, then all your going to do is radicalise people. David Law pretty did Godwin Law and compared conservatives to the nazi. Plus(I'm not sure if PV had anything to do with this)the revoke article 50 online petition was easily the worst thing to happen in the hell world we live in.

All of this is in part why Labour position or really non position has been crap, its not because Jeremy Corbyn wants to secretly do THE BREXIT! But because that they know another refendum isn't a clear winning position.
 
I just read it as PV due to the way it has campaigned since leave won has turned anyone who is for leaving the EU into hard believing NO dealers.

If peope like Campbel are on television saying with a straight face, leave voters has been lied to, then all your going to do is radicalise people. David Law pretty did Godwin Law and compared conservatives to the nazi. Plus(I'm not sure if PV had anything to do with this)the revoke article 50 online petition was easily the worst thing to happen in the hell world we live in.

All of this is in part why Labour position or really non position has been crap, its not because Jeremy Corbyn wants to secretly do THE BREXIT! But because that they know another refendum isn't a clear winning position.

How's this any different to how Corbyn and the left react to Tories and centrists etc? For years you've been arguing that to win and to get what you want in politics you need to be forceful and full of conviction instead of pretending you don't believe what you actually believe. Why's it any different for the PV campaign?
 
Some academic achievement does though. Can't think of many politicians who come across as dumber than Corbyn, despite there being no shortage of politicians who look a few fruits short of a fruit salad.

Leaving school with two Es at A level after prep schooling is immensely impressive in its own way.

I don't think Corbyn is remarkably intelligent compared to his peers but shite performance in school doesn't necessarily correlate with what your intellectual ability will be 40-odd years later. Plenty of people who flop academically sort themselves out and end up doing just fine.
 
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Firstly well done for having so much confidence while also talking so much shite. Clearly those labour giants you mentioned have had a effect on you.


I thought losing a referendum and then losing EU elections(The Brexit Party won)might show to some that this country doesn't like or want to be in the EU(And sadly you'll lose if there's another referendum)

You've had your shite marches, you've painted your faces blue and yellow and have spent millions of pounds trying to change people minds. Of all which has made the country hate you even more.

It turns out brexit isn't about the breakdown of liberal politics, English nationalism or that neoliberalism has failed. Brexit happened because Corbyn didn't talk to enough Yorkshire coal miners and failed his a levels.


Truly breathtaking political analysis you've got there mate.

I'm always so utterly, utterly depressed when I see this familiarly common attitude from some on the left.

Even Corbyn describes Brexit as damaging. Yet you see his acolytes directing more anger at people for daring to try to do something about it than you do at the idea itself.

Funnily enough, those doing it also profess to care about the most marginalised in society and yet rather than actually fecking do something about the one policy that will do most damage to those marginalised it's become an exercise in ideological purity.

It's absolute peak champagne socialism.
 
How's this any different to how Corbyn and the left react to Tories and centrists etc? For years you've been arguing that to win and to get what you want in politics you need to be forceful and full of conviction instead of pretending you don't believe what you actually believe. Why's it any different for the PV campaign?
The differece you have to understand the crisis your in and create a narrative. Post 2008 the Left has had one, The PV post refendum hasn't.

There's a difference between been forceful and full conviction because of both your political idoeology and your analysis of the current political crisis which result into trying to creat a masse base and well...... shouting guardian headlines at rallies and calling people stupid for not agreeing with you.
 
I'm always so utterly, utterly depressed when I see this familiarly common attitude from some on the left.

Even Corbyn describes Brexit as damaging. Yet you see his acolytes directing more anger at people for daring to try to do something about it than you do at the idea itself.

Funnily enough, those doing it also profess to care about the most marginalised in society and yet rather than actually fecking do something about the one policy that will do most damage to those marginalised it's become an exercise in ideological purity..

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Yeah you get to feck with your marches and campaign. I'll vote remain if there is another referendum but thats it.

It's absolute peak champagne socialism.
Nothing is to good for the working class.
 
I thought losing a referendum and then losing EU elections(The Brexit Party won)might show to some that this country doesn't like or want to be in the EU(And sadly you'll lose if there's another referendum)

Brexit Party won over 50% of the vote in the EU election did they?

You've had your shite marches, you've painted your faces blue and yellow and have spent millions of pounds trying to change people minds. Of all which has made the country hate you even more.

Oh, you speak for ‘the country’ now do you?
 
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Yeah you get to feck with your marches and campaign. I'll vote remain if there is another referendum but thats it.


Nothing is to good for the working class.

See, case in point isn't it?

You're offering no objections to the suggestion that Brexit is bad for the country, but flat out refuse to do anything to stop it except snipe.

There's no doubt whatsoever that the Remain campaign desperately needs a more radical voice.

It's why its so fecking frustrating that those that could provide it have been engaged in an active process of completely refusing to do anything about it other than complain that that vacuum that exists has been filled by voices you don't like.