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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I suspect he sees himself as the 'Kingmaker', if two No deal Brexiteers make it to the final mass membership vote (one presumably Boris) many grass roots Tories will be swayed by anything JRM has to say on the matter. At the moment everyone thinks Jacob R Mogg is for Boris, but its not a certainty that he would endorse him in the final ballot, if there was another No dealer option!
Yes I think mogg also knows that the pm who implements brexit... Be that no deal or some deal will be unpopular... Mogg probably fancies being kingmaker with a Major cabinet role and getting that cabinet experience to bolster his CV to be the next leader
 
So are the results tonight or tomorrow for the European elections?
 
Look at this genius.


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And right on cue...




Someone's copying the other's homework.


I get the hard left gammons like mcluskey are probably feeling at bit bruised at the collapse in labours vote, but they should really be looking at themselves shouldn’t they. I mean its a bit of a feck up isn’t it.
 
I get the hard left gammons like mcluskey are probably feeling at bit bruised at the collapse in labours vote, but they should really be looking at themselves shouldn’t they. I mean its a bit of a feck up isn’t it.
Think you'll find that Corbyn's played a blinder.
 
The only person in the UK to miss more open goals than Jesse Lingard.

This is so irritating.
The Brexit party is in a massive lead. If you add UKIP and the Conservatives it is close to 50% votes for Leave. If you add Lib Dems and Greens (after all, as you and everyone else in this thread have said, Labour is a brexit party), it is *not* close to 50% for remain.

The fallacy is that there is some mass of Remain voters waiting to jump ship to Labour in a parliamentary election, which can offset Leave losses, and I just don't see it.

They might well do better, there's no guarantee of it (they might do worse too). There's also no guarantee that a second referendum wouldn't be Leave again.
 
This is so irritating.
The Brexit party is in a massive lead. If you add UKIP and the Conservatives it is close to 50% votes for Leave. If you add Lib Dems and Greens (after all, as you and everyone else in this thread have said, Labour is a brexit party), it is *not* close to 50% for remain.

The fallacy is that there is some mass of Remain voters waiting to jump ship to Labour in a parliamentary election, which can offset Leave losses, and I just don't see it.

They might well do better, there's no guarantee of it (they might do worse too). There's also no guarantee that a second referendum wouldn't be Leave again.
Paul thinks young people getting rid of their iPhones would solve the housing crisis. Plus I think he's said he would have voted tory in 2015 :wenger:.


But anyway something something Corbyn is rubbish.
 
This is so irritating.
The Brexit party is in a massive lead. If you add UKIP and the Conservatives it is close to 50% votes for Leave. If you add Lib Dems and Greens (after all, as you and everyone else in this thread have said, Labour is a brexit party), it is *not* close to 50% for remain.

The fallacy is that there is some mass of Remain voters waiting to jump ship to Labour in a parliamentary election, which can offset Leave losses, and I just don't see it.

They might well do better, there's no guarantee of it (they might do worse too). There's also no guarantee that a second referendum wouldn't be Leave again.

It's a Brexit party because of Corbyn and the people pulling his strings and moving his mouth. But not sure it is seen as a Brexit party or a Remain party or an anything party by everyone.

Trying to be everything but actually being nothing will not win them votes.
 
It's a Brexit party because of Corbyn and the people pulling his strings and moving his mouth. But not sure it is seen as a Brexit party or a Remain party or an anything party by everyone.

Trying to be everything but actually being nothing will not win them votes.

I don't think there's a way for them to win votes. The question is how they can lose these fewest seats/votes.
Again, I'm not sure if this is the right strategy. But it's not an "open goal" to victory if Labour just supported Remain.


*in parliamentary, not European elections
 
I don't think there's a way for them to win votes. The question is how they can lose these fewest seats/votes.
Again, I'm not sure if this is the right strategy. But it's not an "open goal" to victory if Labour just supported Remain.


*in parliamentary, not European elections

Maybe not but having a strong leader and a strong position against the worst government even in my long living memory might help
 
Lib Dems just need a decent charismatic leader and they could do very well next election. Enter David Milliband?
 
This is so irritating.
The Brexit party is in a massive lead. If you add UKIP and the Conservatives it is close to 50% votes for Leave. If you add Lib Dems and Greens (after all, as you and everyone else in this thread have said, Labour is a brexit party), it is *not* close to 50% for remain.

The fallacy is that there is some mass of Remain voters waiting to jump ship to Labour in a parliamentary election, which can offset Leave losses, and I just don't see it.

They might well do better, there's no guarantee of it (they might do worse too). There's also no guarantee that a second referendum wouldn't be Leave again.

Or, you know, Labour could just show some principles.
 
do you think taking a firm stance for remain or leave would get them a big boost in parliamentary elections?
Taking a stance and arguing for it? Yes, absolutely. If the Labour party is only going to argue for things that voters already agree with, what is the point of them?
 
Taking a stance and arguing for it? Yes, absolutely. If the Labour party is only going to argue for things that voters already agree with, what is the point of them?

Corbyn's labour has taken a firm stance on economic issues and not on Brexit. The Brexit party has done it the other way around. They are 1 and 2 in national polling for Westminster.
I think Brexit has revealed deep divisions which are very difficult for either party to really navigate.
 
I am starting to think that Remain is not a majority in UK. Or at least not enough majority to deserve a second Referendum
 
Why would anyone want to remain in this failure of a project?

The UK is lucky, your people had the balls to do the right thing and vote leave. Why do you want to ruin it so badly?