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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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This government pissed up £1.5bn and no one is doing anything. Grayling has cost the taxpayer hundreds of millions in failed contracts and no one does anything. This government would get away with murder.
 
That bs about being 'truly British' is nonsense. It should really be in keeping with traditional western values. These types of surveys are just meant to wind people up and get peoplel talking about stuff that means nothing we're a diverse nation. What percentage of people who have a parent or family member NOT from the uk, pro EU? It offends people because people have their biased tenancies. To me whats more important is our values. Nation states being christian based with sprinkles of other faiths and the right to have those faiths. Western Europe runs the risk of losing it's culture and becoming a mismash or hybrid. We all have an identity. I think that's something to be proud of. People fought and died to keep our nations safe. Nations have been flooded by using the media to play on peoples empathy. It's the wars that have to stop.
 
If this is how the two parties choose to read the result, my guess is they would do a deal.
 
Where's the evidence that these results were driven by Brexit?:
Sir John Curtice, the BBC’s lead election analyst, told the Today programme that his analysis suggested the Lib Dem surge was not being driven by support for a second referendum. He explained:

'The Liberal Democrats used to be the traditional party of protest. And then they went into coalition with the Conservatives and they rather lost that mantle.

It looks as though they are beginning to recover that mantle, particularly in areas where until recently they had quite a lot of strength.

But when you actually look, is there any evidence that the Liberal Democrats are doing better in remain areas than in leave areas? The truth is that the evidence seems to be lacking.

So it seems easier to interpret this as evidence of Liberal Democrats recovering from the coalition, being the party of protest, and that’s the basis of their success, rather than necessarily a rush of enthusiasm for the idea of a second EU referendum.'

Curtice also told the BBC that the Greens were getting 11% of the vote, up five points on last year. He said they were on course for one of their best ever local election results.
 
Not sure I follow this...

Labour have lost some.
Tories have lost more.
Greens and Independents have gained.
LibDems have gained the most.

Is this right? What is the LibDems and Greens Brexit policy?
 
Not sure I follow this...

Labour have lost some.
Tories have lost more.
Greens and Independents have gained.
LibDems have gained the most.

Is this right? What is the LibDems and Greens Brexit policy?
Remain, well a second referendum with Remain in the ballot.
 
Exactly, the message could just as well be "We want a free bag of toffees for everyone". Every politician will now say that the results of the local elections demonstrate that the public want this, or that, or whatever that particular politician wants.

If anything, the message is, Brexit, abandon it.

Voters have left the pro leave parties in their droves.
 
McDonnell and May coming out with the same counterintuitive interpretation of the results makes me fear a deal is in the offing.
 
Brexit is bleeding both parties and both leaders want brexit. So they feel the earlier they sort it, the better. Cirbyn's statement was copy and paste of May's.
I can't wait till the next Labour leadership contest. I'm going to vote.
 
If anything, the message is, Brexit, abandon it.

Voters have left the pro leave parties in their droves.

The true test is the European elections in a couple weeks. Brexit Party + Change UK didn’t stand in the local elections and “independent” picked up the second largest number of councillors after the Lib Dems. They’re probably all very conservative in the leave constituencies where they won.

We need another referendum, however I think leave would win again (or 50/50 at best).
 
What's pissing me off about these Euro elections is that I'm not absolutely certain which of the pro-eu parties I should lend my vote to. I guess the Lib-Dems are maybe most likely to win a seat in the northwest but the big unknown is CHuk which might syphon off a lot of the Labour support which would otherwise have gone there.

What is clear is that the Tories and Labour are going to get murdered and party considerations are going to be put before country by both in order to stop that happening.
 
If anything, the message is, Brexit, abandon it.

Voters have left the pro leave parties in their droves.


The time for that has past, should have happened on the 29th March, by announcing revoking of A50.

The European elections are now ipso facto the second referendum, because in effect its become a single issue vote? Hence pro-leavers have swarmed towards Brexit party, but there is no single issue Remain party for Remain to focus on. Our current crop of poor quality Politicians are still playing catch up, Farage is out there on his own with his strategy.
 
I don't see how those results are pro Brexit. Geronwivit my arse...
 
Brexiteers would shamelessly walk up to a car crash pointing and proclaiming this means brexit is the will of the people.
 
Just spoke to someone returning from a Farage/Widdecombe event in Lancashire that thinks there is no doubt that the Brexit party are going to target Labour voters. Be interesting to see how Labour respond.
 
it's pretty obvious the results weren't "gerr on with it" and the messaging was agreed before the results even came in but it's going to be fun seeing remainers try to explain the Brexit Party wiping the floor with everyone in a few weeks
 
it's pretty obvious the results weren't "gerr on with it" and the messaging was agreed before the results even came in but it's going to be fun seeing remainers try to explain the Brexit Party wiping the floor with everyone in a few weeks
I have a feeling they blame it on a certain allotment owning socialist.
 
Hopefully after the good locals, the Lib Dems and Greens get a boost and come to be seen as the main options for remainers. UKIP got 26.6% in 2014, whilst the Libs and Greens collectively got slightly under 15%, so there are some early targets.