I thought it was remainers, not leavers.
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Not really, these people are part of the 16m that voted to remain, who have never accepted they lost.
It was always going to be a No deal/ Leave, or a revoke A50/Remain option , all other so called options are the real 'unicorns'.
The EU was never going to give the UK a 'good deal', because politically it was not in their interests to do so. May knew that, hence her "No Deal is better than a bad deal" speech at Lancaster house; however she has screwed it up in a manner almost beyond belief and remain voters now realise they have to give up on the may be a soft Brexit, maybe a second referendum, Norway + etc. and are now just saying to May "you made a mess of it, so do the decent thing revoke A50 then step down!
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There are loons on every side, the only people that don't see that are the loons themselves.
I understand why people signed and it worked in terms of getting headlines but any other argument way from a second referendum is just awful. And it is tricky because a ton of people on the leave really don't give two shites about democracy.
I don't live far from Central so I went down to the march for a bit. Felt like there were more than a million people there! There was barely any space to move, so after standing around I went to Hyde Park for a while then left, but a lot of people stayed there.
I love a good banal statement.
Well-argued reply. Keep it up.
Great laughing smiley, you're on a roll.
He should do what he likes. He's not in the government and doesn't risk losing almost half of his base by being there.
He'll ride whatever wave of popularity he can I suspect, hiding in the shadows of having an opinion until he's unleashed to chonk allover the slight left of the right of the centre ground.
Like a nice thick slop of vanilla ice cream.
Not good, not bad, but very much all over the place.
I would love for the petition to get to 18 million, that way we don’t have to hear about the 17.4m. It runs for 6 months ao surely if it was plugged enough it would have a chance if only people that signed it could get 2-3 people to do it as well, it would snowball from there. Unicorns are nice.
That’s older than Theresa May itself
As this may as well be the Westminster thread these days
Gove, Hunt and Lidington mentioned as potential interim leaders. Of those three I'm assuming Lidington is the best as I've heard of him the least?
give it 10 minutes until it's end of the year
I'm sure she is going to get booted out but I find it hard to fathom as she just seems to stick around despite all logic.
Not surprising the last few days have been brutal with leaks. There's just no support there for her and the rats are leaving the ship.
I'm also a bit worried it might not lead where we wish. Like when Trump got the nomination and we were all like "lol Dems will smash them".
He's the best of the three by default, but also strikes me as the type the ardent Leavers could easily bully into doing what they want. The only hope would be that he goes straight towards accepting the Kyle-Wilson amendment.
But but this should have been the easiest deal ever cause the EU needs the UK more then the UK needs the EU. Only a mad man would leave the single market .. Prosecco.... German cars....... Cake and eat it
I'm pretty sure it would be gove in the interim... And quite possibly longer term
That said I am not sure she will fall on her own sword so somebody at senior cabinet level is going to have to "gertonwithit" if they want her gone soon and publicly call for her to go
That said I am not sure she will fall on her own sword so somebody at senior cabinet level is going to have to "gertonwithit" if they want her gone soon and publicly call for her to go
Where have I heard this before
Also it would destroy the tory party, so I can't see it happening.
Also it would destroy the tory party, so I can't see it happening.
Or part of the 50 million people in the UK who didn't vote to leave.
Even if that is true the truly staggering part of all this is that we went down the A50 path before we had any clue about the practicalities of leaving with or without a deal.
The deal on offer is very generous from the EU's perspective.
I'm not sure that is what all those in favor of remaining are saying. Although it is a good point, well made.
She's been hinting for months she's been preparing to resign. Just please not Gove, British politics is depressing enough as it is. 
I'm not sure being the person May nominates is really a positive at the moment. Then again I've a standing bet on Gove, I'm a little biased.
Replacing May with another Tory is like replacing Stuart Houston with Stuart Houston.
Either way you're getting someone who consistently votes to increase VAT, reduce disability benefits, give more autonomy to banks and basically say "feck you" to anyone who makes less than £150k a year.
Why make up a scenario then hope the weather was bad to sort out the made up scenario?
Is there a difference between making up a scenario and worrying about a possibility? Maybe there is, I don't know. In any event it's passed off peacefully as far as I know, and I hope all such things do so in future. I suspect you might have knee-jerked against my post thinking I was being anti-Remain, if so you're barking up the wrong tree, I was genuinely hoping the marchers didn't 'cock it up'.
As one of the nearly 700,000 UK citizens living abroad for more than 15 years (the majority within the EU) who were all refused a say in the BREXIT referendum I would like to say a huge thank you to all the people who marched in London and around Britain yesterday in support of a peoples vote.
It was one of the most amazing scenes that I have witnessed for a long time and one I sorely wish I could have been a part of, as planned. but could not due to family reasons (which probably explains why I posted so much on here yesterday … sorry once again if my thread-bombing annoyed anyone).
If the British voting rules were revised to be more in line with those of most other developed countries, in terms of a country's citizens living abroad having a say in these important decisions, that small win margin in 2016 would have been a lot smaller.
I will be drastically affected by the outcome of the original opinion poll if it is ratified - which makes it all the more frustrating that I was not given a say in the matter.
Well done!
I know opinion on here is probably divided so I'll leave it there.
It was one of the most amazing scenes that I have witnessed for a long time and one I sorely wish I could have been a part of, as planned. but could not due to family reasons (which probably explains why I posted so much on here yesterday … sorry once again if my thread-bombing annoyed anyone).
If the British voting rules were revised to be more in line with those of most other developed countries, in terms of a country's citizens living abroad having a say in these important decisions, that small win margin in 2016 would have been a lot smaller.
I will be drastically affected by the outcome of the original opinion poll if it is ratified - which makes it all the more frustrating that I was not given a say in the matter.
Well done!
I know opinion on here is probably divided so I'll leave it there.
Look at this mess ffs!
Or a Tory as we call them.
Greatest con trick of all time is getting middle and working class people to vote for right wingers who in no way have their best interests at heart. It is the same in the US and Australia and I just can't understand it.
:lol;
Yet somewhat amazingly they could be replacing Stewart Houston with an even worse version of Stewart Houston.
Why the insinuation that violent protest is typically fascist? Rioting is a means to an end for extreme right wingers, but never the left? Rioters come from all over the political spectrum, let’s not try & dress it up differently.
In ‘81 there were riots in cities in several cities in the UK that were definitely NOT fascist. Same in Brixton in ‘85. Ditto the Poll Tax riots in 1990. What about the riots of 2011? How about the Yellow Vests in France at the moment? Are they Fascists?
That said, glad yesterday passed without major incident.
In ‘81 there were riots in cities in several cities in the UK that were definitely NOT fascist. Same in Brixton in ‘85. Ditto the Poll Tax riots in 1990. What about the riots of 2011? How about the Yellow Vests in France at the moment? Are they Fascists?
That said, glad yesterday passed without major incident.
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My only issue with that is why should it take 6 months to get the representation? Why can't they do it over the course of a vote? The problem here isn't the remainers or leavers who turned up to vote, the problem is those who didn't turn up at all, those who assumed that remain would be the result.
That the Tories worst nightmare is a PM who would do a deal with Labour just shows how bad things are. These guys will never put country above party. Victor Orban is right.