Ballon d’Or 2024 — post-Messi era

It's all a bit pathetic. All this indignation over an individual bauble.

Reminds me of American sports with the attention all those MVP/DPOY/OPOY awards get and the importance attached to them. Load of shite.
Exactly that. To think that there is a new „best player“ every year is braindead.
 
It would be funny if, after all the "worst Balon d'Or ever" talk aimed at Vinicius, this award went to someone who's ultimately far closer to justifying that sort of hype.

Not even half as funny as Madrid's official reaction to this complete non-issue, though, let alone their fans'.
 
I don’t think that Rodri deserves it whatever people say. Quality midfielder, would love have him running our midfield. From that to saying he’s the best player in the world is a huge stretch.
I suppose the excuse is that they really want to hammer down the point that what you do for your national team is as or more important than clubs performance. Vinicius has been average at best for Brazil.

Rodri didn't lose in 73 consecutive games with City which is probably a record in world football. Maldini went 72 games unbeaten 30 years ago.

Also, Rodri won 8 trophies in the last 2 years while losing only 4 games. That's mental. He's a bit underestimated in England. He's City's most important player, though. The way he links everything together is really impressive.
 
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Probably unpopular opinion, but Vinicius Jr doesn't deserve this. Hate his "victim" antics while being an absolute prick + he never shows up for Brazil. Rodri would be so deserving winner IMO.
What 'victim' antics? Are you talking about him being the victim of racial abuse? If so, then that's a horrendous take.
 
What a joke. Arguably the biggest robbery in the history of this award. People who think that Rodri deserves it are either City fans or just saying it out of hate towards Madrid.

1.Rodri wasn´t even the best City player, Foden was.
2. Also, he wasn't the best Spanish player at the Euros. Carvajal, Fabian Ruiz, Williams, Olmo, Yamal were as good or better than him.
3. The Champions League is more important than the Euros (only the World Cup outweighs the CL)

(We had 16 tournaments between 1960-2020. 6 times the Euros winner also won The Ballon d'Or: Beckenbauer 1972, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 1980, Platini 1984, Van Basten 1988, Matthias Sammer 1996, Ronaldo 2016. The Euros winners won 6 out of 16 Golden Balls. Since the CL reform in 1992, 2 out of 8. It would've been even less but till 1995 the Golden Ball was reserved only for players of European origin!)

4. He was knocked out in the quarterfinals by Vinicius, Carvajal, Bellingham, and he lost the FA Cup final against poor United side.

All 3 Real Madrid players did more to win it.

To all people saying about Real Madrid PR or nonsense like that. Real Madrid PR is 6 CL in the last 10 years, 2 in the last 3. It means that their players are just better than the rest, whether you like it or not. That's reality not PR.
Be careful, you're bias is showing.
 
What a joke. Arguably the biggest robbery in the history of this award. People who think that Rodri deserves it are either City fans or just saying it out of hate towards Madrid.

1.Rodri wasn´t even the best City player, Foden was (voted 2023/24 Etihad Player of Season by City fans!)
2. Also, he wasn't the best Spanish player at the Euros. Carvajal, Fabian Ruiz, Williams, Olmo, Yamal were as good or better than him.
3. The Champions League is more important than the Euros (only the World Cup outweighs the CL)

(We had 16 tournaments between 1960-2020. 6 times the Euros winner also won The Ballon d'Or: Beckenbauer 1972, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 1980, Platini 1984, Van Basten 1988, Matthias Sammer 1996, Ronaldo 2016. The Euros winners won 6 out of 16 Golden Balls. Since the CL reform in 1992, 2 out of 8. It would've been even less but till 1995 the Golden Ball was reserved only for players of European origin!)

4. He was knocked out in the quarterfinals by Vinicius, Carvajal, Bellingham, and he lost the FA Cup final against poor United side.

All 3 Real Madrid players did more to win it.

To all people saying about Real Madrid PR or nonsense like that. Real Madrid PR is 6 CL in the last 10 years, 2 in the last 3. It means that their players are just better than the rest, whether you like it or not. That's reality not PR.
Rodri perhaps should have won it the year of the treble and not this one, and it is a shame that Vini does not see his two champions (with goals) reflected in an award that is a narrative of football history but personally I think Rodri is a crack .
He was the best in the euro and we won thanks to his overwhelming control of the midfield.
 
Rodri is a great ballon d'or winner, like Modric was and like Iniesta would have been.

I thought Vinicius would get it, deservedly, based on the criteria but I may have underestimated the last one about fair play. Vinicius is one of the most annoying players currently. He can be insuferable. He gets booed in almost every stadium now. The fans hate him, and the voting journalists are football fans at the end of the day.

Attacking players are usually favored, so Vini's trashy behaviour cost him the award. He only has himself to blame for that. Zidane lost a ballon d'or for unsportmanlike conduct in 2001.
 
Madrid fans losing their minds. Tough few days after the 0-4 spanking for a lot.

They should give it to Messi again for the ultimate laughs :lol:
 
Vini is the player in world football I like watching the most. I think he's brilliant. Would love for him to win it.
Then again, I don't watch City unless they play United, so maybe Rodri deserves it, i don't know.
 
Madrid fans losing their minds. Tough few days after the 0-4 spanking for a lot.

They should give it to Messi again for the ultimate laughs :lol:
Haja he probably deserves it more Vini.
 
Vinicius is the best player in the world. I hope his time comes. Rodri is also a worthy winner, he clearly has the impact of making his team play better.
 
Rodri winning ballon d’or. What happened to the game I love?
This. It's an indication of the dearth of magical players around at the moment. Rodri is a top player but I don't think he's even on the level of Sergio Busquets. I'd take prime Kante and Makelele over him.

Maybe this is why some of us get overexcited at watching a certain 17 year old play. It's not so much him, it's the hope he represents, that it might not always be like this.
 
What 'victim' antics? Are you talking about him being the victim of racial abuse? If so, then that's a horrendous take.
Nah, that racial abuse is obviously over the top, but he is an absolute piece of shit, who is asking for it. He taunts players/fans and acts disrespectfully.
He doesn't deserve the racial abuse, but he is doing everything in his powers to be treated like trash.
 
He basically had a year identical and even better than Messi’s in 2021 yet one won and the other couldn’t even make the podium.
I mean, it wasn't identical, Messi was the best player and had the best performances at the Copa America (in 2021) and Martinez wasn't and didn't, though he scored goals. But Lautaro still should get more recognition than he is getting, that much cannot be denied.
 
Nah, that racial abuse is obviously over the top, but he is an absolute piece of shit, who is asking for it. He taunts players/fans and acts disrespectfully.
He doesn't deserve the racial abuse, but he is doing everything in his powers to be treated like trash.
Just an awful post. Wow.
 
Nah, that racial abuse is obviously over the top, but he is an absolute piece of shit, who is asking for it. He taunts players/fans and acts disrespectfully.
He doesn't deserve the racial abuse, but he is doing everything in his powers to be treated like trash.
Very poor choice of words there IMO
 
Nah, that racial abuse is obviously over the top, but he is an absolute piece of shit, who is asking for it. He taunts players/fans and acts disrespectfully.
He doesn't deserve the racial abuse, but he is doing everything in his powers to be treated like trash.
What fans does he taunt, that haven't racially abused him first?
 
I'm not really sure why it became accepted wisdom that Vinicius Jr. was a lock for the Balon d'Or tbh.

I think it was assumed because of the season we had, winning the ucl and the league, and him being out best attacker. At the very least I think Vinicius would deserve it more than Rodri, who perhaps should had won it when Manchester City won the champions league.
 
What fans does he taunt, that haven't racially abused him first?
Real Sociedad fans, just this season.

Also I don't think players and referees have ever racially abused him.

He's a victim regarding the racial abuse against him obviously, but not regarding the general/non-racial hate he receives almost every week.
 
I think it was assumed because of the season we had, winning the ucl and the league, and him being out best attacker. At the very least I think Vinicius would deserve it more than Rodri, who perhaps should had won it when Manchester City won the champions league.
I think Rodri played better individually last season than the season before that, he was still very good in the treble season but I thought he stood out a lot last season in the PL at least, and then you add in player of the tournament for Spain in the Euros and it makes sense why he was chosen this year over last one.
 
Madrid are a weird bunch. Rodri is a great shout. They don't have to act like little children when things don't go their way. Madrid players win awards all the time.
 
I mean, it wasn't identical, Messi was the best player and had the best performances at the Copa America (in 2021) and Martinez wasn't and didn't, though he scored goals. But Lautaro still should get more recognition than he is getting, that much cannot be denied.
Messi won MVP but was arguably the worst player on the pitch in the final. Martinez also won his domestic league.
 
What a joke. Arguably the biggest robbery in the history of this award. People who think that Rodri deserves it are either City fans or just saying it out of hate towards Madrid.

1.Rodri wasn´t even the best City player, Foden was (voted 2023/24 Etihad Player of Season by City fans!)
2. Also, he wasn't the best Spanish player at the Euros. Carvajal, Fabian Ruiz, Williams, Olmo, Yamal were as good or better than him.
3. The Champions League is more important than the Euros (only the World Cup outweighs the CL)

(We had 16 tournaments between 1960-2020. 6 times the Euros winner also won The Ballon d'Or: Beckenbauer 1972, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 1980, Platini 1984, Van Basten 1988, Matthias Sammer 1996, Ronaldo 2016. The Euros winners won 6 out of 16 Golden Balls. Since the CL reform in 1992, 2 out of 8. It would've been even less but till 1995 the Golden Ball was reserved only for players of European origin!)

4. He was knocked out in the quarterfinals by Vinicius, Carvajal, Bellingham, and he lost the FA Cup final against poor United side.

All 3 Real Madrid players did more to win it.

To all people saying about Real Madrid PR or nonsense like that. Real Madrid PR is 6 CL in the last 10 years, 2 in the last 3. It means that their players are just better than the rest, whether you like it or not. That's reality not PR.
You are certainly entitled
 
I did not say he deserves the racial abuse, rather than that when you can't handle the heat, maybe you shouldn't provoke so much and try getting your shit together?
 
What a joke. Arguably the biggest robbery in the history of this award. People who think that Rodri deserves it are either City fans or just saying it out of hate towards Madrid.

1.Rodri wasn´t even the best City player, Foden was (voted 2023/24 Etihad Player of Season by City fans!)
2. Also, he wasn't the best Spanish player at the Euros. Carvajal, Fabian Ruiz, Williams, Olmo, Yamal were as good or better than him.
3. The Champions League is more important than the Euros (only the World Cup outweighs the CL)

(We had 16 tournaments between 1960-2020. 6 times the Euros winner also won The Ballon d'Or: Beckenbauer 1972, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 1980, Platini 1984, Van Basten 1988, Matthias Sammer 1996, Ronaldo 2016. The Euros winners won 6 out of 16 Golden Balls. Since the CL reform in 1992, 2 out of 8. It would've been even less but till 1995 the Golden Ball was reserved only for players of European origin!)

4. He was knocked out in the quarterfinals by Vinicius, Carvajal, Bellingham, and he lost the FA Cup final against poor United side.

All 3 Real Madrid players did more to win it.

To all people saying about Real Madrid PR or nonsense like that. Real Madrid PR is 6 CL in the last 10 years, 2 in the last 3. It means that their players are just better than the rest, whether you like it or not. That's reality not PR.
Man United didn't win a Ballon d'Or in 1999 for a treble, or City for last year, or Bayern for 2013 and all were superior teams to that Real Madrid one. Beat Man City on penalties, were going against Bayern but for Neuer's unfathomable error. Valverde and Rodrygo were better than Vini against Man City, Vini was only the best Real Madrid player in the semi-final. Kroos was also great for them, and Courtois made a lot of saves in the final.

In that context, they're just putting forward Vini as their 'best' option, like Ribery in 2013 and Beckham in 1999, even though he isn't clearly better than anyone in world football, it was a team effort. So no, it isn't 'the biggest robbery in the history of the award' ffs.
 
Messi won MVP but was arguably the worst player on the pitch in the final. Martinez also won his domestic league.

Messi carried an injury in that Copa Final and was by far the best player in that tournament. It wasn't even close. You know who else wasn't the best player in a final despite being the best tournament player? Maradona in '86.
 
Best case scenario; this fuels him and he takes us to a title. God knows we ain’t getting there otherwise this season :lol:
 
Messi carried an injury in that Copa Final and was by far the best player in that tournament. It wasn't even close. You know who else wasn't the best player in a final despite being the best tournament player? Maradona in '86.
Yeah but under the current Ballon d'Or guidelines he wouldn't deserve a win bc he was a whiny cnt for most of the tourney.

*Flees the thread*
 
This. It's an indication of the dearth of magical players around at the moment. Rodri is a top player but I don't think he's even on the level of Sergio Busquets. I'd take prime Kante and Makelele over him.

Maybe this is why some of us get overexcited at watching a certain 17 year old play. It's not so much him, it's the hope he represents, that it might not always be like this.
To say that Rodri isn't on his level is completely ridiculous. He has had arguably as significant an impact on this City team as Busquets did on Pep's Barcelona. Without Rodri we do not achieve anywhere near what we have in the past 3-4 years.
 
This. It's an indication of the dearth of magical players around at the moment. Rodri is a top player but I don't think he's even on the level of Sergio Busquets. I'd take prime Kante and Makelele over him.

Maybe this is why some of us get overexcited at watching a certain 17 year old play. It's not so much him, it's the hope he represents, that it might not always be like this.
Nah he surpassed Busquets this year and he's not even finished his career. Busquets never finished in the top 20 of the Ballon d'Or, never deserved to either. There were always better players than him. Same can't be said of Rodri, who is a great midfielder. Rodri already finished 5th last year, and will likely win this year.
 
Nah, that racial abuse is obviously over the top, but he is an absolute piece of shit, who is asking for it. He taunts players/fans and acts disrespectfully.
He doesn't deserve the racial abuse, but he is doing everything in his powers to be treated like trash.
What a shitty take, wow. The newbie filter really is slipping.