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After messi and Ronaldo this award has really gotten boring.
Who are the 15 players you don't know from that list?Why would I have to? Is that required? I said I don't know half of those names, so the list is depressing to me. It lacks the star aura. Clearly my opinion, subjective in nature.
The inclusion of Kroos - not a great season, due to his retirement and nostalgia.
The inclusion of Hummels - struggled in the league to the point where his contract wasn't renewed and Dortmund let him go. Allegedly the best in the CL games, but that is hyperbole by German Dortmund fans.
He won't, Rodri all the way.
This year shows how dire football became in terms of talent, and how system worhsipping is killing flair players. Aside of Yamal, and he's got a long way to go, there's absolutely nothing on the horizon.
Who are the 15 players you don't know from that list?
Definitely not, no.It's a figure of speech, ein rhetorisches Stilmittel. I didn't count if it was exactly 50%.
See, I know who Wirtz is, but I have never seen him play. I've seen his stupid face on ads, but that's not knowing the player. Same with Olmo, I didn't know he played for Leipzig, never heard of him.
I would not recognize a lot of them in a picture. I don't know what a Lookman is.
Any more questions, sunshine?
"Allegedly" like he's committed a crime. Or just watch the games like everyone else, he was their best defender in the CL.Why would I have to? Is that required? I said I don't know half of those names, so the list is depressing to me. It lacks the star aura. Clearly my opinion, subjective in nature.
The inclusion of Kroos - not a great season, due to his retirement and nostalgia.
The inclusion of Hummels - struggled in the league to the point where his contract wasn't renewed and Dortmund let him go. Allegedly the best in the CL games, but that is hyperbole by German Dortmund fans.
Haaland and Mbappé are likely future greats heading into the peak of their careers. Just that neither had a great season. But this season with the way they've started and the teams they play for - has potential to be very different next year. Also the lack of star power is due to having younger players on the list like Nico Williams, Wirtz, Palmer, Bellingham etc. Musiala is a bad omission too. It would be worse for football if it was still Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar etc past their best making the list.He won't, Rodri all the way.
This year shows how dire football became in terms of talent, and how system worhsipping is killing flair players. Aside of Yamal, and he's got a long way to go, there's absolutely nothing on the horizon.
The guy also claims he has never seen Wirtz play. Probably only watches his club and maybe some PL games but has an opinion on the BdO list."Allegedly" like he's committed a crime. Or just watch the games like everyone else, he was their best defender in the CL.
Doesn't watch the Champions League or the Euros, despite the fact they're generally what decides the Ballon d'Or, but has an opinion on the Ballon d'Or. Like if you haven't seen Wirtz or Olmo play, then you haven't watched Spain vs Germany at the Euros, which is one of the biggest games of the season, if you haven't seen Olmo play then you haven't seen the Euros final. 24.2 million people watched that final in the UK. I'd question if he even watches football, full stop.The guy also claims he has never seen Wirtz play. Probably only watches his club and maybe some PL games but has an opinion on the BdO list.
Agreed 100%. Add Yamal to that list who’s looking more exciting than anyone bar Messi and Ronaldo in the last decadesHaaland and Mbappé are likely future greats heading into the peak of their careers. Just that neither had a great season. But this season with the way they've started and the teams they play for - has potential to be very different next year. Also the lack of star power is due to having younger players on the list like Nico Williams, Wirtz, Palmer, Bellingham etc. Musiala is a bad omission too. It would be worse for football if it was still Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar etc past their best making the list.
Although with Vini isn't not only goals, is it? It's just that he's exciting and easy on the eye, too. Though I obviously agree that defensive players are constantly overlooked.Rodri should win it, but he won't for the same reason he didn't win the PL Player of the Season. Non-forwards aren't merited on the basis of their relative positions in these things. Just like Foden, it'll be Vinicius, because gOaLs = bEtTeR
Careful he might be the editor of France Football!Doesn't watch the Champions League or the Euros, despite the fact they're generally what decides the Ballon d'Or, but has an opinion on the Ballon d'Or. Like if you haven't seen Wirtz or Olmo play, then you haven't watched Spain vs Germany at the Euros, which is one of the biggest games of the season, if you haven't seen Olmo play then you haven't seen the Euros final. 24.2 million people watched that final in the UK. I'd question if he even watches football, full stop.
Definitely not, no.
"Allegedly" like he's committed a crime. Or just watch the games like everyone else, he was their list.
The guy also claims he has never seen Wirtz play. Probably only watches his club and maybe some PL games but has an opinion on the BdO list.
Doesn't watch the Champions League or the Euros, despite the fact they're generally what decides the Ballon d'Or, but has an opinion on the Ballon d'Or.
Like if you haven't seen Wirtz or Olmo play, then you haven't watched Spain vs Germany at the Euros, which is one of the biggest games of the season,
if you haven't seen Olmo play then you haven't seen the Euros final. 24.2 million people watched that final in the UK. I'd question if he even watches football, full stop.
If you haven’t seen any of the tournament that most of the list is based off, then yes your opinion is mostly meaningless, ‘cupcake’.Thank you, much appreciated. I don't enjoy talking to Bayern fans, I did enjoy your miserable season though. Your club has been an embarrassment since Hoeness and Rummenigge walked away.
I did cupcake, as a matter of fact six times in Dortmund last season and Hummels was terrible every single time. I live one hour away and get invited to go there from time to time.
No, not everyone watches Dortmund games.
He had a terrible season. Good games - be it in the CL or in the league - mean nothing. Overall it ended with Dortmund letting him go.
I also never said that he wasn't their best defender, assuming you're referring to the CL games. But he wasn't among the best defenders overall, that's what I meant. Glad to clear that up for you.
I don't "claim" that. I haven't seen a single Leverkusen game and I don't watch national teams. So no, I only know his stupid face. Bubi face, you know what that means. So punchable.
I watch United games, I try to watch Atletico / Marseille and interesting CL games when time allows it. I don't go to Old Trafford anymore, but I do visit around a dozen games a season, mainly England, France and Germany. That's about it.
I don't watch the Euros, the WC and all that, but I didn't say that I don't watch the CL, at least some games. It used to be different, but since Ole and then *********** Ten Hag my general interest in football went down.
I watch our games, which is getting harder and harder with the charlatan in charge. For the rest, see above. I don't have that much time to waste.
And yes, I can have an opinion on the list, it is depressing and no one is asking you for your permission.
Yes, exactly. Why was that one of the biggest games of the season? Germany wasn't a favourite, there was no enthusiasm in the country during the Euros (compared to 2006) and everyone I know expected Germany to go out.
Yes, I haven't seen the final, see above. I support United and I do not watch any national teams. You can question whatever you want, no one cares. Like your opinion on the list, it is ultimately meaningless.
This is quite aggressive, unnecessaryThank you, much appreciated. I don't enjoy talking to Bayern fans, I did enjoy your miserable season though. Your club has been an embarrassment since Hoeness and Rummenigge walked away.
I did cupcake, as a matter of fact six times in Dortmund last season and Hummels was terrible every single time. I live one hour away and get invited to go there from time to time.
No, not everyone watches Dortmund games.
He had a terrible season. Good games - be it in the CL or in the league - mean nothing. Overall it ended with Dortmund letting him go.
I also never said that he wasn't their best defender, assuming you're referring to the CL games. But he wasn't among the best defenders overall, that's what I meant. Glad to clear that up for you.
I don't "claim" that. I haven't seen a single Leverkusen game and I don't watch national teams. So no, I only know his stupid face. Bubi face, you know what that means. So punchable.
I watch United games, I try to watch Atletico / Marseille and interesting CL games when time allows it. I don't go to Old Trafford anymore, but I do visit around a dozen games a season, mainly England, France and Germany. That's about it.
I don't watch the Euros, the WC and all that, but I didn't say that I don't watch the CL, at least some games. It used to be different, but since Ole and then *********** Ten Hag my general interest in football went down.
I watch our games, which is getting harder and harder with the charlatan in charge. For the rest, see above. I don't have that much time to waste.
And yes, I can have an opinion on the list, it is depressing and no one is asking you for your permission.
Yes, exactly. Why was that one of the biggest games of the season? Germany wasn't a favourite, there was no enthusiasm in the country during the Euros (compared to 2006) and everyone I know expected Germany to go out.
Yes, I haven't seen the final, see above. I support United and I do not watch any national teams. You can question whatever you want, no one cares. Like your opinion on the list, it is ultimately meaningless.
Stick to curling.Complains about flair players and system worshipping but still picks Rodri over Vini. Right makes sense.
Maybe.Haaland and Mbappé are likely future greats heading into the peak of their careers. Just that neither had a great season. But this season with the way they've started and the teams they play for - has potential to be very different next year. Also the lack of star power is due to having younger players on the list like Nico Williams, Wirtz, Palmer, Bellingham etc. Musiala is a bad omission too. It would be worse for football if it was still Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar etc past their best making the list.
Uh? Mbappé could quit football now and nobody sane would ever even think of comparing fecking eden hazard to him, wtfMaybe.
All what ifs and light-years away from a Neymar or a Hazard at the same age. I'm also not entirely sold on Bellingham. We'll see how it goes.
It’s still quite weird that Neymar will end his career with no Ballon d’Or
Look at the second sentence I bolded and it will make sense.Uh? Mbappé could quit football now and nobody sane would ever even think of comparing fecking eden hazard to him, wtf
Ahhh got it. My badLook at the second sentence I bolded and it will make sense.
AS I WAS SAYINGI am not saying that he should be top 10, but I feel like Musiala should have been on the list just for the sake of having some more flair on it.
Messi and Ronaldo or Ronaldo and Messi for an eternity was boring too.After messi and Ronaldo this award has really gotten boring.
No it wasn’t, it was cinema. 2 of the best of all time pushing each other was boring apparently.Messi and Ronaldo or Ronaldo and Messi for an eternity was boring too.
i prefer sportsit was cinema.
I feel like Rodri deserves it but he plays for disgusting cheats so it's nice he won't get it.Apparently it's vinnie's this year with rodri coming in behind.
Were I to give my two cents I'd say the latter is more deserving although I'm not onw to complain, the last thing we need is city getting to fill the Ballon d'or checkbox.
What victim antics? You mean like diving?Probably unpopular opinion, but Vinicius Jr doesn't deserve this. Hate his "victim" antics while being an absolute prick + he never shows up for Brazil. Rodri would be so deserving winner IMO.