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Antony under investigation by Brazilian authorities for domestic abuse | Inquiries ended | Back in the squad
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I’m interested to know why you haven’t explained to me why women in these high profile cases go straight to social media with their accusations and only later to the authorities.
Now that is some tasty word salad
It feels horrible, but I just can't be bothered to care about this?
I am also much less emotionally involved than I was with the Greenwood events. With Greenwood it was “what a waste of talent, etc.” whereas here it is “we shouldn’t have bought him anyway, 80 mil wasted, …”.
But for the club all this plus the potential financial loss is not good at all so hopefully it can be quickly resolved one way or another.
An ambulance is on its way.
Close. It rhymes.
I have no idea what he's on about either
“Lana alleges that she met Antony in September 2022 after she was asked to help him send money back to Brazil.”
‘Out of nowhere, he tried to kiss me,’ she said.
‘He changed the subject and came at me. I said, ‘what’s going on?’. I went and said, ‘I don’t want it’. Then he pushed me against the wall with hatred. I hit my head against the wall.
‘I said, ‘what’s going on, Antony? I’ve never seen you like this’. And said to me, ‘what did you come here for then?’. I said, ‘Antony, I came to talk about business. Did you invite me for this? I don’t understand what you want’.’
https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/11/man-...n-and-reveals-whatsapp-messages-19477985/amp/
Players on multi-million contracts cannot be suspended purely based on an accusation. It should not even be an option. Such a norm can be grossly misused.
Isn’t that what she should have done first ?
It's beginning to look like it's three gold diggers getting together to bring him down. Seeing how active he is I'm hoping this will be resolved soon. If they are lying it's a disgrace to all women actually suffering abuse who will find it even harder to find justice thanks to them.
Added to that, players are employees of the club so legally it can’t be taken out of the club’s hands as the club is responsible for the player’s welfare.
I am not saying this is not the case, but what makes it looks more like it?
You can be abused by someone you want to sleep with.
I really hope it actually is three women who came together to bring him down, as that would be the best case in a bad situation.
Isn't that what Greenwood did, then the club put out a statement saying he hadn't done anything wrong, yet the court of public opinion had decided he had.
Most true fans are emotionally less involved, however this is yet another stain on the Glazers Ownership of the club, when have they ever employed best in class?
What qualities, elite experience and values does Richard Arnold and John Murtough have to be running a club as large as Man United, who agreed to Ed Woodward, who agreed to bringing back Mason only to be forced to change their mind because of public opinion?
Every single aspect of the club which is not dealt with or run the way an elite Football club should operate it’s business is on the Glazers, you can’t own a £6-7 billion asset and want to manage it remotely from 4000 miles five times a year. Like they say in the US, the buck stops at the top !
The recent leaks of their complete ineptitude and negligence of running this club are there for a reason, someone inside the club is trying to out them!
The whole football world can now see how truly incompetent these morons are and that if Daddy had not left them the club, they individually or collectively would have never even owned a club the size of Newport County!
Tampa will also struggle under their complete lack of fortitude and ambition as they see a sporting club as a franchise and more importantly an ATM machine!
They are getting what’s deserved to them and it won’t be long now ?
On the basis of what she is reported to have said happened and what Antony has released, the third allegation doesn’t look credible. Have to wait and see if she releases anything else disputing what he has said though.
That said, even if that is the case, that doesn’t mean that the other allegations are untrue. Each allegation has to be treated separately and there’s no current suggestion I’ve seen of any collusion.
Wow those messages are clear. I don't know if he should had waited until later to use them in a legal way or something. But for public figures social judgement is as important as legal. I think it's a good thing he's releasing this evidence, if people get in their minds that he's guilty (and many people already think this) then no it doesn't matter if he's found innocent in court. He'll be finished just as Greenwood.
The way Antony has managed himself on this makes me think he's innocent. That Ingrid lady looks totally after the big bucks.
Thats one accuser. Why do you say all 3 are gold diggers?
Yes you can still be abused by someone you want to sleep with but those messages throw out the window all of Ingrid's version. If she had said she met Antony to have sex and he was violent then the messages wouldn't prove anything different, but she said she was there purely on business. That Antony tried to kiss her and when she didn't wanted to he threw her against the wall violently. That story doesn't add up at all with the "I'll wait for you naked on the bed if you want" and "you make me wet" messages. Also the fact that she was taking screenshots and Antony got mad about it makes me suspicious that it's clear she was looking to take advantage of something.
Plus she sent some bullshit message about Antony being all light and espiritual and that good things will happen etc. Is that something you'd expect her to send after she was violently attacked?
Plus why on earth would you really hope he's guilty?
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What a soap opera. This case is far from straightforward.
It's pretty difficult for the PL to come up with an off the peg solution to the issue of players facing sexual assault charges, given the cases will all have their own unique characteristics and may involve police from different jurisdictions. Not sure the clubs would sign up to the PL being able to force them to suspend a player either, when some would rather keep playing them, and these guys are assets worth tens of millions in many cases.
That stat is horrific though and the problem seems to be getting worse if anything, given the recent spate of cases.
You hope three women are collaborating to bring Antony down ? Interesting.
Thanks, mate.
So, he claims that she came to see him in Manchester because they had a relationship (of some kind - but sexual, clearly, to some degree). That's basically his story.
Her story is that - what - in her capacity as bank manager she went to Manchester in order to help him transfer money to Brazil? I mean, that sounds absolutely ridiculous.
Before I degrade myself as an investigator by making bad jokes about the intelligence (and possibly other traits) of the people involved in this "saga", let me end by saying this:
Further investigation is needed.
And will be carried out.
If and/or when I'm arsed/half sober.
I spent far too long trying to make sense of this post. What in the actual sweet feck is this.
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You pretty much fully understand the topic of their conversation. Nudes exchanged, he asked her to delete it because he didn't want it getting out or her to get 'hacked' essentially.
Most certainly am. First and last time.
No, football is an entertainment business after all. You don't have to give a shit about anything that doesn't happen on the pitch if you don't want to. I think most of us just enjoy the escapism of football and find this stuff an annoying sideshow.
I dont. I hope he is not guilty and it actually is those three who falsely accuse him.
Yes of course, dont you? That would mean that no one have been abused. Its much better than them telling the truth and Antony has been abusing all three of them.
I dont hope, based on nothing, that three women comes together and collaborating to bring him down. I hope thats the case now, when we are already where we are.
Yes the other two allegations haven't been proven or disproven. But the third one I think has gone out the window. After Ingrid said: "I didn’t have sex with him and I didn't have anything with him. I was never his lover. I only visited him to talk about business." And then seeing the messages where it's clear they had sex and it was consensual I just doesn't add up. It's clear bullshit.
My bad I understood that one different I get what you meant now
I think that's 2 different occasions? The first one is when they first met.
The Manchester one is obviously they're already connected.
I too am confused as it's text speak so maybe I'm wrong
Got it. That sounds much better than the original interpretation.
I could have been much clearer in my first post.
People who want Antony to be guilty just because they don't like how he plays football, are disgusting.