That went on for years, appeal after appeal (all of which Chelsea won iirc) and Chelsea got feck all out of it in the end other than some massive legal bills.
Antony under investigation by Brazilian authorities for domestic abuse | Inquiries ended | Back in the squad
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That went on for years, appeal after appeal (all of which Chelsea won iirc) and Chelsea got feck all out of it in the end other than some massive legal bills.
another woman has come forward. concerning antony
and its been alleged that the club. especially invited a. convicted paedophile. to a womens league match...I find it incredible if this particular story is true....Man Utd is such a big club. you think they'd be careful about things like that
and its been alleged that the club. especially invited a. convicted paedophile. to a womens league match...I find it incredible if this particular story is true....Man Utd is such a big club. you think they'd be careful about things like that
I would have thought all the interviews already would have done that. If he is charged then the defence are going to have a field day, let alone if anything said in the interviews is exaggerated or wrong - such as the dates which were given for one assault when he wasn't even in the country.
If it was just one accusation I could have seen us waiting until an arrest but now that there's 3, he should probably be suspended while this is ongoing. Unlikely that 3 different unconnected women would make similar allegations if he wasn't guilty.
Legally, doubtedly so.
There no key witness other than private doctor whom could've reported it long ago but both side can't give legit reason why he didn't. So benefit of the doubt etc etc..
Remember our Legendary number 11, RG?
By multiple women claiming the same abuse? Yeah, unlikely.
Wow didn't realise this
Case might be closer to an Amber Heard v Johnny Depp one so
With 3 accusers he's in deep shit. Most likely the club will suspend him.
Is this fact?
Is it 3 already? I missed that.
I'm almost certain we can't literally read minds yet. Maybe Musk is working up to it.
Tired of posts criticising the club for not profiling player better.
Did you criticise Sir Alex for not profiling Giggs?
Did anyone criticise Pep for not profiling Mendy better?
Did you criticise Sir Alex for not profiling Giggs?
Did anyone criticise Pep for not profiling Mendy better?
Quality control
Ten Hag must be feeling relieved, no he can skip Antony without people bringing up the transfer fee.
United have to deal with this quickly now.
He has to be suspended pending further developments.
The longer United hesitate to announce this, the more negative press etc.
Whether he's actually guilty of what he's accused of doesn't matter here: this is purely a matter of damage control.
He has to be suspended pending further developments.
The longer United hesitate to announce this, the more negative press etc.
Whether he's actually guilty of what he's accused of doesn't matter here: this is purely a matter of damage control.
When the quotes and clips from this upcoming interview air they will no doubt shit their pants and suspend him the negative press is about to run all over the club and player
I mean this has the potential to make the Greenwood case look like childs play, rumours are rife that they're going to accuse the club of some sort of cover up if im reading the articles correctly.
It could be an unholy mess, yes.
But precisely for that reason, the very least they can do is to suspend the fecker, as in: yesterday.
We're run by idiots, though - that much is clear.
Yeah probably the useless cnuts.
I only got that off a comment in this thread from someone who said they were reading up about the first accusation, so may not be 100% true, but we had a game then apparently he played in. But as an example of a field day a defence could have if claims in interviews aren't correct.
I'm not sure he's feeling too good that someone he has known and worked with (and presumably gets on with) for years is up for something as nasty as this. It wouldn't make my day that's for sure....
Look it's ok to want Antony out as a player if people think he's not up to it. However being happy that something like this has happened (if it's true) because it gets rid of him, or if he is falsely accused and the dirt ends him, is fecking low. Have people genuinely lost sense of perspective here? 3 women have potentially been battered, but at least we can get rid of someone who isn't up to it so its not all bad. On top of that a young guy who plays for the team we support is in an unholy mess but tough, he's not good enough. Just wow.
Just another day then.
To be honest I think that because of what happend with Greenwood they won't suspend him unless he's actually convicted of something. If they suspend him and nothing comes of the charges (or it's settled in civil court, which seems most likely based on evidence so far) then they'll have to bring him back at some point, which will bring the story back into the media spotlight and ignite the court of public opinion.
It's actually less damaging to just say 'it's in the hands of the authorities' and ride through the negative press, which will eventually move on with the news cycle. Then if no charges come you just carry on, no need to reintegrate and what not. If he is charged and found guilty you do what needs to be done then as swiftly as possible and hide behind the rule of law.
This is basically what Arsenal are doing with Partey, made easier by the fact the press can't name him, obviously.
I'm not saying I agree with it, but in terms of long term risk assessment that's what most well run organisations would probably do. It's pretty much what happens in the US whenever there's some big sports scandal.
Edit: well run being the key phrase in that last part...
Which comment was that?
It will be in the first couple of pages
This is a really, really bad look on the heels of the Greenwood situation.
If the club don't suspend Antony now, they've lost the plot.
If the club don't suspend Antony now, they've lost the plot.
I think they will, but I also think there is the added complication with the club doctor. If they accept the allegations to suspend him, then are they not also admitting to some level of the club covering this up? I don't know.
Not to mention it was allegedly ETH that insisted on signing him.
The manager insisted on signing a (so far) underwhelming player that the club (based on his recommendation) ended up paying hideous fees and wages for, and It’s now looking like said player might be done for with the added joy of dragging the club’s image down. Not sure how this can be spun into something that looks remotely good for the manager, quite the opposite actually.
I just checked the first 10 pages and didn't find anything.
It feels like the club is out of control. They seriously need to put a blanket over this fire and say Antony has been suspended until further notice. Will be refreshing to see him out of the team at least but them dawdling over suspending him is absolutely insane. Do it now, a full week before the next game.
What on earth are you talking about?
For the love of God, or the gods, the club must act today.
I'm not sure that's true in this case.
United are under extreme scrutiny compared to pretty much any thinkable employer, including other football clubs.
I'm not sure "riding it out" is a viable option here. If he is - at some point in the future - found guilty, the club's reputation will take a massive hit. The narrative will be that Manchester United actively protected a criminal.
Three individuals have made accusations against the player. Sure, it could all fizzle out with no conviction, etc. But I wouldn't gamble on that. In fact, I would call it positively idiotic to gamble on it. It is a much safer bet to just suspend him. If it turns out, in time, that these accusations are bogus/have no merit, fine - but a) the player doesn't have much of a case against the club and b) even if he does (as in: he claims that he was unreasonably or even illegally suspended), that's surely a relatively minor concern (he can hardly sue United into bankruptcy).
I just been looking back, page 7.
" Trying to read up on it but it seems that at least one of the incidents she's claiming happened on a certain date and he was in the UK, and he was actually playing against Bournemouth or someone at the time. Not sure where she was though "
True or not or where she was I don't know. My point just being anything said in the interviews the defence would have a field day if anything is incorrect, for argument sake here if she claimed the incident happened in Brazil - which I thought she did but I could be wrong to be fair.
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They've set a precedent with MG, this must follow the same path.
That Antony was in the UK on one of the dates isn't very surprising, as it's alleged to have happened in the UK. This is referring to the incident where the club arranged for a doctor.
I have talked on WhatsApp with my 23 year old daughter (my wife’s daughter to be exact) who lives in São Paulo, only a few miles away from Antony’s place, and she says that most of locals (a majority is female) condemn him and social media in Brazil/SP is full of abusive comments, mostly against Antony.
I unfortunately have no doubts that some of the things he’s accused of is true but at the same time I wouldn’t totally trust all these women. When money, fame and media coverage is involved probably everybody has their own agenda. On top of that we have a local police force with corruption into their core, a legal system with similar problems and most lawyers with zero scruples. Not to mention a rotten local and national media with more interest of click baits and viewers than the truth.
It’s like a mixture of all bad things you need in a case like this and unfortunately I think Antony’s United career is over.
Without neglecting the supposedly crime what a tragedy for the young man on so many different levels. So so young….
I unfortunately have no doubts that some of the things he’s accused of is true but at the same time I wouldn’t totally trust all these women. When money, fame and media coverage is involved probably everybody has their own agenda. On top of that we have a local police force with corruption into their core, a legal system with similar problems and most lawyers with zero scruples. Not to mention a rotten local and national media with more interest of click baits and viewers than the truth.
It’s like a mixture of all bad things you need in a case like this and unfortunately I think Antony’s United career is over.
Without neglecting the supposedly crime what a tragedy for the young man on so many different levels. So so young….
How have they not suspended yet? It's a strong indication they are taking this seriously.
Seems to be getting worse day by day
Seems to be getting worse day by day
yeah, this is the reason I'm not 100% comfortable with Ten Hag tbh.
He maybe a genius tactically, but he needs to think about this stuff too, not just footballing skills.
The more I think of it, if Ten Hag really wanted to just focus on the footballing ability of his future/current players, then we need someone above him who could overrule him. Because not just from the moral perspective, this is costing the club a massive amount of money and bad publicity
If Antony hasn’t been arrested he won’t have a criminal record would he, and you only get a CRO if found guilty in a court of law.
Do you think this is one of the reasons he still hasn't been suspended? I keep wondering if suspending him would also be an admission that this is/could be true and would obviously look like they did try and cover it up. I don't know. What a mess.
Which academy coach brought Greenwood into the club, they need some blame too.