You can't just go around suspending players based on accusations. I hate this kind of guilty until proved innocent culture.
Antony under investigation by Brazilian authorities for domestic abuse | Inquiries ended | Back in the squad
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it’s opinions like hers that make headlines and make Unitedtake actions like they did with Greenwood.
She needs to keep her opinions to herself
I concur. Hopefully the club won't cave in to pressure by certain groups, who have no connections to the club whatsoever, to suspend him. It's a club matter.
Says a bloke on a discussion forum.
You're like a one man cartoon strip running through this threads.
Says a bloke on a discussion forum.
You're like a one man cartoon strip running through this threads.
Differnece is nobody cares about my opinions and I’m not trying to get anybody sacked.
Pretty sure Greenwood is the reason United took action on Greenwood but thanks for that freezing cold take from 1957.
So only people whose opinions don't matter are allowed to voice them. That's a dystopian nightmare.
She's allowed her opinions and she's allowed voice them. Until now I didn't care about her opinions. But I have to say in this world of vile shitbags constantly making odious noise it's very interesting watching people lose their reason over Rachel Riley.
damn women. They have opinions and everything these days
I mean it's disrepute once more and now it seems the club were aware of this month's ago and did nothing in fact helped to cover it up
I'm not a lawyer and I don't want to comment on this case in particular; however, a medical practitioner of covering up a crime is a very big deal. They're all well aware that if they're found to have done something like that they'd be facing permanent loss of their license to practice and criminal prosecution. Club executives would also be well aware that they would face criminal prosecution if they were found to have participated.
Where is this culture you speak of?
Both players who had allegations against them are still playing football.
Mason's lack of explanation for the 'evidence' in the public domain is what made him staying here untenable. Nothing else.
he was also on full pay too.
No she doesn’t, but it’s on everyone else how much stock they put into it
The headlines were already in place before she voiced her opinions. The video and audio had already been out in the public domain before she voiced her opinions and people had already taken up positions before she voiced her opinion.
I wanted greenwood gone long before she said anything, she had no influence on me or many who wanted him gone.
This whole idea that her opinions are the reason Utd took action are a lazy and easy way to divert attention away from the issue of domestic abuse. Do you ever talk about that? Probably not, you will jump straight to anything that takes attention away from that part of the whole situation.
Sancho prefer playing on left wing. Ole/ETH tried him on right wing and didn't work.
Hopefully, this is academy player's chance. I'm tired of these prima dona high profile signings.
Of course.
Would you be saying the same if her opinions presumably matched yours?
People use the word fact very casually these days.
He hasn't really worked on the left either, though.
I think at Dortmund he played well on both sides
Agreed. I'm all for equal opportunities and whatnot but women actually mouthing off in public is really too much.
Are you really discussing Sancho's best position in the middle of this mess? Hats off.
I remember now, you called for the Glazers to be assassinated in the Club for Sale thread?
And now so sensitive to people's opinions on allegations of abuse.
I think you're the only one who called for anyone to be killed. It's almost as if you're not as fair and balanced and you'd like to think.
But you are allowed to voice your opinions? Weird take. The tweet she posted wasn't even calling for any actions against Antony.
What in the actual.
Why does she needs to keep her opinions to herself? Does every famous persons or only the ones whos opinion differs from yours? Where is the line, how famous can i become before i need to shut up?
Can anyone post the club statement on this matter? I’ve missed it
what they mean is people with opinions that differ to theirs, should keep them to themselves.
as for my take, Ms Riley is a bonafide buffoon.
Ahh so we released Greenwood not because he was involved in some really scurrilous behaviour, but because a celebrity made a comment about it!
Boyzone are to blame
" No matter what they tell us
No matter what they do
No matter what they teach us
what we believe, is TRUE...."
I'd love to be able to say innocent until proven guilty and let it play out but the inadequacy of the system prosecuting cases like this means theres no faith in any kind of resolution. Manchester United at their best wouldn't be the place to get solutions to that problem and under the glazers were so severely compromised that it would be frankly stupid to ask us to solve the problem.
Really its the government that need to address their inability to prosecute these cases. Until then its trial by media and i dont know how a football team reacts to that (unless its painfully obvious what happened as with Voldemort). Premier League or UEFA or FIFA stepping in and having some procedure for criminal cases like this would be helpful (latter 2 definitely wont).
I'm not sure its easy to institute a rule that limits a persons ability to work without a charge at the minimum. And i think largely thats a good thing and, inadequacy of prosecutions aside, its not something to be discarded lightly.
Really its the government that need to address their inability to prosecute these cases. Until then its trial by media and i dont know how a football team reacts to that (unless its painfully obvious what happened as with Voldemort). Premier League or UEFA or FIFA stepping in and having some procedure for criminal cases like this would be helpful (latter 2 definitely wont).
I'm not sure its easy to institute a rule that limits a persons ability to work without a charge at the minimum. And i think largely thats a good thing and, inadequacy of prosecutions aside, its not something to be discarded lightly.
Well said.
Thanks for the input. It was pretty clear that was said in jest about the lovely glazers.
This, (Anthony) is his livelihood. Why should he be suspended until there is conclusive proof or charges?
I’m fair and balanced as they come thank you, I’m just not all over this instant Rachel Riley persecution movement.
Are there people in this thread who want Antony suspended over these allegations, without credible evidence (as far as I know, open to correction)? Genuine question
If that was a joke you need to work on your delivery. And it wasn't clear. I presume that's why a mod deleted it.
Nobody's livelihood has or will be suspended without a guilty verdict in a court of law so enough of the untrue hysteria.
Your initial guilty until proven innocent nonsense is just hyperbole.
Sorry you're confusing me here, you think Rachel is free to say what she wants and the vilification should stop or that she's the one doing the persecution.
Regarding him playing/not playing, the non moral argument is probably that having this hanging over him probably isn't great preparation for playing a top level football match.
If United honestly believe he's innocent (fair enough at this stage) then they should support him and allow him to focus on clearing his name, even giving him time off if required. Clearly making the point that it isn't a suspension.
The alternative side to that is if the club sees a Greenwood style video/images then suspension is the only option.
If United honestly believe he's innocent (fair enough at this stage) then they should support him and allow him to focus on clearing his name, even giving him time off if required. Clearly making the point that it isn't a suspension.
The alternative side to that is if the club sees a Greenwood style video/images then suspension is the only option.
She's felt the need to weigh in on Giggs, Greenwood and Antony in recent weeks pretty much saying she'll never support the club again if they aren't fired etc.
Innocent until guilty? Not in judge Rileys eyes.