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2024-25 Performances

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6.1 Season Average Rating
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Clean sheets
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He had a bad game but let's not rewrite history for this season. He's been mostly excellent in his second season at the club. Even VDS made a blunder against West Brom in the Premier League. Hope Onana shakes this one off asap.
 
What gets me is the number one reason you buy Onana is to utilise his great passing. We saw it at Inter, but just to remind you...


Ten Hag wasn't able to play in a way to utilise this. We will see if Amorim can. You can see that Inter had set routines that allowed him to use his feet - often it would be Matteo Darmian at wing back being left at the spare man and Onana would find him over and over.

So remove the asset from him that separates him from other keepers, and you are just left with a bang average keeper that is prone to howlers.

If we are never going to play in a way where he can start using his key asset, then we may as well sell him to someone who will.
 
Mistakes like the one in the second goal shows that we can’t trust him, it’s not his first blunder. It was feckin straight at him but he jumped away.
We need a more reliable keeper.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
The 2nd goal was poor from him but other than that he didnt put a foot wrong
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The 2nd goal was considerably worse than "poor".

And he put plenty of feet wrong. Was rooted to the spot for Woods' header and passed it straight to a Forest player that nearly led to a 4th goal.

He's been good this season but today was a stinker. And let's face it, he has those performances in his locker. He'll concede goals like that at least 4 or 5 times a season, it's whether we're willing to tolerate it or not.
 
Two things are happening at once, and they’re both predictable: exaggerating how bad he was today, but the worse one, minimizing how good he’s been this season.

He hasn’t been “good”, “better”, or “bang average” this season, he’s been sensational and one of the stand out goalkeepers in Europe. Stats and eye test back that up. Let’s not rewrite the season because he made a big mistake today.

Now if he continues to make these mistakes and essentially reverts to last year’s Onana, sure we can all freak out together.
 
My biggest concern is when he has a brain fart, he somehow further keeps compounding it. Don’t know if he panics or if he is trying too hard to amend for the error, but that is a common theme with him. It’s one mistake, quickly followed by other ones.
 
NK86 said:
My biggest concern is when he has a brain fart, he somehow further keeps compounding it. Don’t know if he panics or if he is trying too hard to amend for the error, but that is a common theme with him. It’s one mistake, quickly followed by other ones.
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Whole team lost its head after the quick goal after half time. It’s unfortunate, we immediately responded and responded well after their first goal, but were shell-shocked after their second goal.
 
VP89 said:
Id much rather a solid 7/10 keeper every game than the yoyo nonsense Onana provides. Should have got Raya.
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You are having a laugh. The Arsenal fans that I know have slated Raya from Day 1, and they are as critical of our team as the majority of United fans are of ours. If you think he's the "upgrade" we need, then standards for you are low.

I said this before, Onana was a massive liability last season and this sort of game was all too familiar. But now it being the 15th game this season he has been one of the most reliable players for us, so he can have a day off for a horror show of a performance.
 
Squeaky_Bum_Time said:
Whole team lost its head after the quick goal after half time. It’s unfortunate, we immediately responded and responded well after their first goal, but were shell-shocked after their second goal.
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Onana contributed a lot to that. The third goal was also partly his fault, and then that give away from which we almost conceded a fourth.

He has had this in his game last season too. With other keepers, a mistake does not usually mean another one following up. With Onana you can almost be certain he will feck up again once he makes a mistake.
 
I can forgive him having a bad day at the office, but the arguing with the ref about where to put the ball for free-kick lost 30 seconds of game time with less than a minute to end of the match,
 
Been really good so far this season. A bad day at the office yesterday but hopefully he puts it behind him and doesn't get in his own head about it.
 
Until yesterday, Onana has been excellent for us this season, making some outstanding saves without which we’d be in or just scraping the relegation zone.

He had a bad day at the office for probably the first time this season.
Cut him some slack and let’s hope it was a blip.

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"He made a mistake with the second goal but other than that" the excuses made for him are ridiculous. We've dumbed down the standards we've always held for Goalies because of him. We held our previous goalies to higher standards than this. Average performances are praised because they aren't the norm for him. Truth be told I have zero confidence in him long term. He's a good guy, great character but average average goal keeper. From a team that has had Peter, Edwin and Prime De Gea, we should expect more from our goalies.
 
devilsadvoca8 said:
"He made a mistake with the second goal but other than that" the excuses made for him are ridiculous. We've dumbed down the standards we've always held for Goalies because of him. We held our previous goalies to higher standards than this. Average performances are praised because they aren't the norm for him. Truth be told I have zero confidence in him long term. He's a good guy, great character but average average goal keeper. From a team that has had Peter, Edwin and Prime De Gea, we should expect more from our goalies.
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It's all about opinions. I think hes a good goalkeeper but not a great one but that's OK for now. I don't think the performances have been average, they have been one of the best in the league but long term, time will tell whether being good is good enough?
You name 3 of the best goalkeepers not only at Utd, but best in the history of the league. That's where we need to be but he is not alone, that's applicable to 70% of the players.
There is a bigger picture and it's not him at the mo, the performances this season so far warrant him some respite...
 
Red Shorts said:
You are having a laugh. The Arsenal fans that I know have slated Raya from Day 1, and they are as critical of our team as the majority of United fans are of ours. If you think he's the "upgrade" we need, then standards for you are low.

I said this before, Onana was a massive liability last season and this sort of game was all too familiar. But now it being the 15th game this season he has been one of the most reliable players for us, so he can have a day off for a horror show of a performance.
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Eh? Raya has been much, much better than Onana. And pretty much all Arsenal fans love him now
 
KranjskaKlobasa said:
I can forgive him having a bad day at the office, but the arguing with the ref about where to put the ball for free-kick lost 30 seconds of game time with less than a minute to end of the match,
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This for me was more annoying than the goal (even though the goal is a killer..

Goal is bad but the end bit is just brainless. It achieved nothing, especially since you're a GK who can launch it the longest out of anybody in the team. What does an extra few yards help anyway?
 
I'm not a believer of the "outside of the mistakes he generally is a good keeper". The mistakes he makes are a result of how poor he is as a keeper, relative to how good a keeper should be for the level we want to get to and for a super club like United. His positioning is poor which contributes to mistakes, his saving technique is poor which contributes to mistakes, he is not a physically dominant keeper which contributes to mistakes and he clearly has a jittery personality where when the pressure hits he just ends up all over the place. He is not a Manchester United GK and will never be. At best I can see him as the eccentric backup GK for the club. Players like him have to be cut out of the club, he has neither the talent nor the mentality to play for United.
 
RuudtheRed said:
He had a bad game but let's not rewrite history for this season. He's been mostly excellent in his second season at the club. Even VDS made a blunder against West Brom in the Premier League. Hope Onana shakes this one off asap.
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Yeah it depends on how he reacts. He’s been class for basically 12 months, up there with the best in the league. If he now goes another long stint without issues, it doesn’t matter at all.

As ever the Gk beats the brunt. We have away possession in a ridiculous area and yet that error people don’t care about compared to his error.
 
KranjskaKlobasa said:
I can forgive him having a bad day at the office, but the arguing with the ref about where to put the ball for free-kick lost 30 seconds of game time with less than a minute to end of the match,
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This. So annoying to see him wasted almost a minute towards the end. Don't know what is he thinking there.
 
I don't really care about the mistake for the second goal. Obviously it was a howler, but all keepers make the odd one here and there and that's the first he's made in a while. As long as he put it behind him and we go a good long time before we see another mistake of that level then it's fine.

The much more worrying thing was how he fell to pieces after it. If his confidence is that brittle, there's a fair chance we'll see more mistakes quite soon.
 
That goal last night felt more of first part of 23/24 Onana. Hopefully he doesn't lose his confidence because of it.
 
I couldn't believe when I saw his reaction for the second goal, I thought that was finally behind him. I can live with current ratio of blunders honestly. if the next ones are gonna happen around Easter, I accept it.
 
I’m not really sure what he was doing on those two goals on Sunday. Why is he going to ground like that on the 2nd goal? Even if the ball moves, the shot was fairly central. On the third, no attacker should be scoring a header from that close. Then he proceeded to hand possession back to them in our own half right after.

Personally, I don’t rate him. He’s one of those who I can see having spells of being pretty good but ultimately doesn’t have presence and reliability to be the keeper we need.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Yeah it depends on how he reacts. He’s been class for basically 12 months, up there with the best in the league. If he now goes another long stint without issues, it doesn’t matter at all.

As ever the Gk beats the brunt. We have away possession in a ridiculous area and yet that error people don’t care about compared to his error.
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12 months?

Don't be silly.

He's been good so far this season, however.

An absolute epic shitshow on saturday though, useless on 2 out of 3 goals and gifts them the opportunity for a 4th. Proceeds to waste time during ET. Lost all his fecking marbles for that one, like he never managed to reset after his first mistake.
 
MadDogg said:
I don't really care about the mistake for the second goal. Obviously it was a howler, but all keepers make the odd one here and there and that's the first he's made in a while. As long as he put it behind him and we go a good long time before we see another mistake of that level then it's fine.

The much more worrying thing was how he fell to pieces after it. If his confidence is that brittle, there's a fair chance we'll see more mistakes quite soon.
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Yeah that’s the worry here. His in game reaction to the mistake was not good. If he carries those jitters through to the next game we’re in trouble. Last season his mistakes came in quick succession, which doesn’t bode well.
 
NotChatGPT said:
12 months?

Don't be silly.

He's been good so far this season, however.

An absolute epic shitshow on saturday though, useless on 2 out of 3 goals and gifts them the opportunity for a 4th. Proceeds to waste time during ET. Lost all his fecking marbles for that one, like he never managed to reset after his first mistake.
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He was very good in the second half of last season too. Despite his critics on here being so desperate to avoid backing down they refused to acknowledge that improvement and tried to blame every single goal we conceded on the goalkeeper, all season long.
 
MadDogg said:
The much more worrying thing was how he fell to pieces after it. If his confidence is that brittle, there's a fair chance we'll see more mistakes quite soon.
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This was precisely my thought. Last season, he made mistakes, and then kind of had zero confidence for large part of the rest of the season.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He was very good in the second half of last season too. Despite his critics on here being so desperate to avoid backing down they refused to acknowledge that improvement and tried to blame every single goal we conceded on the goalkeeper, all season long.
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He was?
 
The second goal at the weekend was a howler but he's been one of the best performing keepers in the league this season. This is just a case of people who wanted him gone initially waiting for him to have a bad match so they could come back in here and tell us that they were right all along.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
The 2nd goal was poor from him but other than that he didnt put a foot wrong
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That just isn't true, he gave the ball away couple of times, let in a goal that can only been described as a grade A howler and he didn't cover himself in any glory with Woods goal. He is a fine keeper but he isn't reliable in the slightest.
 
He makes some fantastic saves - some are literally mind blowing reactions.

At the same time i feel like he sometims purposely tries to make simple saves look harder to save than they truly are.
 
flameinthesun said:
Single handedly threw us out the champions league last season. Such a poor keeper.
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He contributed but single handedly? Talking shite.

His penalty save would have kept us in it, our inability to put games to bed was a major reason too.

Also a ton of rewriting last season going off, he had a poor start and was largely good in the 2nd half of the season.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He was very good in the second half of last season too. Despite his critics on here being so desperate to avoid backing down they refused to acknowledge that improvement and tried to blame every single goal we conceded on the goalkeeper, all season long.
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He certainly improved over the course of last season but I wouldn't go so far as to say he was 'very good'. I'd say decent to bordering on good, but still with a few too many mistakes for comfort. Enough to show promise and give us hope that he'd continue improving this season (which he certainly did up until the most recent game), but still not at the level I'd want long term.

This season he's been very good, and hopefully that's how he'll continue for a good few years to come.
 
Definitely a bit of a mare at weekend, after a big improvement over last season. Hope he puts this behind him and doesn’t become jittery again. My main gripe with him this season has been him taking an age to get rid of the ball. Often due to the lazy feckers in front of him not showing for the ball but not always the case. Even when chasing the game he can be seen casually pirouetting around and back again, only to give it 10 yards to Dalot. Not all his fault, as we should all know by now, the lot of em need to sharpen up because we’re not even as good as mediocre teams that seem to manage ok, at least when they play United, as the table shows.
 
Whilst he has had a better season thus far compared to last, the fact these errors come out suggests he’s not up to scratch. We saw enough examples last season and a ten or so game run of okay form this season before reverting to type shouldn’t be completely ignored but taken into account. Ultimately, he’s not filling anyone with confidence and we really need better.
 
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