Plays like an outfield player put in goal who has no idea about the basics of being a goalkeeper.
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This is clearly just an insult towards Oliver Giroud and I will not stand for it!
The same outstanding defensive record that saw us concede 7 to Liverpool, 6 to City, 4 to Brentford and multiples against countless other teams? Onana might have a touch of the Barthez about him but we don't need to revise history.
De Gea had been costing us big games and making high profile errors for the best part of 5 years, whilst being the best paid goalkeeper in the world. His only quality as a goalkeeper was his shot stopping, and even that had greatly diminished over the last few years. Onana might not turn out to be the answer but you're a masochist if you wanted De Gea to stay on as first-choice goalkeeper. Last season was the culmination of a horrible spell for De Gea at United.
Terrible signing. Awful goalkeeper.
We didn't need Onana, but we needed a keeper who is better than De Gea.
Go watch De Gea's howlers against the likes Brentford, Everton, West ham, Sevilla, City last season alone, these would be embarassing errors for a Sunday league keeper. And that's ignoring the fact he'd never claim or cross or leave his line, and couldn't pass a ball.
If De Gea was a howler-free keeper, we could forgive his weaknesses. But he became one of the most error prone keepers in the league, to go alongside his weaknesses.
De Gea literally cost us the FA cup final because he couldn't make basic saves, instead choosing to literally stand and watch the ball go into the net.
The club, as usual, have made the wrong signing, but the signing was in the right position.
We're not talking about De Gea's mistakes from 10 years ago. Again, go and watch De Gea's howlers against the likes Brentford, Everton, West ham, Sevilla, City last season. One of those games cost us an FA cup final and handed City a treble on a plate. And a lot of those howlers are in an area where he's supposed to be strong, shot stopping. And then add in that he never claims a cross, leaves his line and can't pass a ball.
I'd bet my house the likes of Klopp, Pep, Arteta, De Zerbi all would have made it a priority to replace De Gea in the summer.
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Well, Onana is conceding goals that I could save. So any keeper who can save the most basic of shots would be a massive upgrade on Onana at the minute.
McTominay saved his arse today.
Utd won’t be challenging for any titles with Onana.
Utd won’t be challenging for any titles with Onana.
Can we just pin at the top of the thread "just because onana is sucking doesn't mean we didn't need to replace/upgrade on ddg"?
Both can be true. Ddg needed replacing but onana certainly is struggling right now to fill the shoes.
Both can be true. Ddg needed replacing but onana certainly is struggling right now to fill the shoes.
DDG had credit in the bank.
It was time to replace him but to use his howlers to defend Onana is bit stupid. If we wanted a keeper who will continue to do that, then we would have kept DDG. Onana is being rightly criticised and his technique does raise some serious concerns. Random edits of DDG mistakes wont change the fact that Onana has to be better than what he is at the moment.
I'm not defending Onana.
I'm furious the club have yet again got a key signing wrong.
But De Gea still needed to go.
Shouldve signed raya. 20m less and is epl proven
Not like his passing range is weak either
Not like his passing range is weak either
Looking like maybe Diogo Costa would have been a much better option. If he keeps this up need to find a replacement in the winter window ASAP which will be tough.
Onana will end up being yet another expensive deadwood that we will struggle to sell
It was in complete jest in the beginning that I said we should've just kept kovar. Creeping more and more into me being serious
He's crap. Not cut out for United.
I’m not going to pick apart everything you’ve just written partly because you do make a few good points, but mainly because it delusional in the extreme to believe that we would have beaten City in the FA Cup final but for De Gea. We had nothing on City, which did not have a great day at the office but we’re still the better side by miles.
This is the kind of delusion we’ve been dealing with since Moyes, that if only one player was up to it we would have won the FA Cup or the Europa League or the Premier League. The undeniable truth about last season is that our defense was the strength of our squad performance and that our attack was the weakest link in our performance. A keeper’s main job is to keep our sheets as clean as possible and if you or anyone rise cares to check the record Dave did his job. Yes, he made mistakes but he helped us qualify for the CL which was far and away our top priority, he helped us with the league cup which is a meh if you like but it’s still a cup, and he helped us get to the FA Cup final but lost to a team that is vastly superior to us. In case there’s any confusion on this point, let me state this again: City were vastly superior to United last season.
Even if we had fluked a win over City in the FA Cup final that was in no way thrown by De Gea, the same De Gea haters here would have come up with some other excuse to justify getting rid of him. Great, that’s exactly what we we did and here we are now, losing CL group matches we should have won but for horrifying goalkeeping and scraping by clubs in the PL that were put into doubt because of our new keeper. Not the ideal way to run a football club.
DDG fanboys just won't let go huh?
He's a free agent and still no club wants him, how are you going to make excuse for that? You can't.
Onana may be a downgrade but DDG wasn't it either. Club could still sell Onana for decent money if Murtough wasn't incompetent, he's still a high profile gk.
Not like Pep got keeper that he wanted right off the bat and Ederson isn't exactly good shoot stopper either.
He's a free agent and still no club wants him, how are you going to make excuse for that? You can't.
Onana may be a downgrade but DDG wasn't it either. Club could still sell Onana for decent money if Murtough wasn't incompetent, he's still a high profile gk.
Not like Pep got keeper that he wanted right off the bat and Ederson isn't exactly good shoot stopper either.
The number of mistakes he made has far exceeded my expectation. I don't think he is gonna make it here tbh, he is another Taibi or Bosnich in our search for the next No.1 goalkeeper
Another poor mistake today. Better in the second half. But still really can't be letting those past you.
Very concerned looks like his confidence is shot. The combination of the lens goal, the wolves non penalty and a couple of handling errors seem to have turned him into a meek GK.
He needs to put his big boy pants on and play his game, struggling to adapt to the pressure and scrutiny of the position somewhat.
Im not writing him off just yet he isn't as bad as he's currently showing. But he really need to get his best form back otherwise he's going to get eaten up and spat out.
Very concerned looks like his confidence is shot. The combination of the lens goal, the wolves non penalty and a couple of handling errors seem to have turned him into a meek GK.
He needs to put his big boy pants on and play his game, struggling to adapt to the pressure and scrutiny of the position somewhat.
Im not writing him off just yet he isn't as bad as he's currently showing. But he really need to get his best form back otherwise he's going to get eaten up and spat out.
Drop him for a few weeks. Need a keeper whose starting doesn’t automatically mean you’re a goal down.
Has been an unmitigated disaster so far ,things can surely only improve, a rest may do him good
He needs the confidence of a solid back 4 in front of him. He seems too nervous but I’m hoping that gets better as he relaxes into the team as time goes on.
Let’s not write him off just yet. He’s not our answer medium / long term but I’m willing to give him time to get his head together a bit.
Diogo Costa from Porto is still my first choice but I also understand been united keeper takes some getting used to.
Let’s not write him off just yet. He’s not our answer medium / long term but I’m willing to give him time to get his head together a bit.
Diogo Costa from Porto is still my first choice but I also understand been united keeper takes some getting used to.
I get what you are saying but I just don't see the technique and the skill that is latent in him which will help him find back his form.
His positioning is so poor most of the time. It's neither here nor there and I feel that in his mind, he isn't actually expecting to save many quality shots as he always looks unprepared for them. Maybe he didn't know what he was signing up for when he came to the PL. I don't want to write him off but I don't think these issues will ever really go away from him as it is how he plays.
It's very, very simple. We have a bad goalkeeper. There's a better goalkeeper available as a free transfer. That's it.
If money was issue, should've kept Kovar then? He looked better than both.
De gea is exactly free. Even with reportedly wage reduction, he still would've been highest paid gk in the world.
Can you imagine fielding this clown against City when they’ll likely have 26 shots on target?
Nightmare.
Man's doing tricks on my eyes. He looks like literally shrinking more and more with every mistake to the point where he makes the goal look absolutely massive now, like a little man standing inside a giant empty warehouse. Allison looks huge in goal for comparison and I looked up his height and he's just an inch taller (!!)
I doubt this is actual level though. He can't possibly be this bad and have made it this far - it's not like United plucked him out of nowhere. Question is, assuming this is a temporary blip, what is his ceiling? I can see him going back to being good/more aggressive on the ball once he gets his confidence back, but he looks limited as a shot stopper/presence and I'm not sure he'll ever be consistently reliable in that regard. Would United fans take it if he ends up being a Lloris level keeper?
I doubt this is actual level though. He can't possibly be this bad and have made it this far - it's not like United plucked him out of nowhere. Question is, assuming this is a temporary blip, what is his ceiling? I can see him going back to being good/more aggressive on the ball once he gets his confidence back, but he looks limited as a shot stopper/presence and I'm not sure he'll ever be consistently reliable in that regard. Would United fans take it if he ends up being a Lloris level keeper?
Wait a minute, how was he one of the best keepers last season? You mean in the CL? His numbers in the league were worse than DDG’s weren’t they? Myself preferred him over Raya but obviously I watched Raya more frequently.
If that was horrible what in the name of Christ is this from Onana?
That right there is a typical agenda driven United fan. Either that or you didn’t watch the cup final. We couldn’t create a single quality chance for our forwards until Garmacho entered and did a few runs on their defenders, if it wasn’t for a stupid penalty we wouldn’t have even scored. But here you are DDG lost us the final
He hasn't been good enough but the people using it as an opportunity to point score about another player who clearly wasn't good enough are just irritating. If Onana keeps making stupid errors he'll face the same fate as the last guy who made too many stupid errors. That's how it works.
I think the mistake many made was thinking the reason we concede so many chances was because we didn't have a modern keeper. It wasn't the reason last season, it isn't the reason this season. Onana isn't a bad keeper, but unfortunately for us his main strengths isn't his ability to save shots it seems. Put Onana in Manchester City and would probably have been great, put Ederson in goal for us and he'd most probably not be any better than Onana. We needed someone like Alisson - elite ball playing but also elite shot stopping.
It depends what you mean good enough. Good enough to play in a team that can’t score 60 goals in a league season? Yeah DDG was good enough for that team 100%.
Onana is clearly not even good enough for that team.
I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make here. De Gea would've been good enough for a team who bailed him out by scoring more goals? So would Onana, or any other goalkeeper in world football for that matter. De Gea wasn't good enough for any team with ambitions to play on the front foot or in top level European competition, hence he was replaced. I suppose you think Spain played the likes of Kepa, Sanchez and Simon ahead of him because they fancied it for a laugh. The fact De Gea still hasn't found a club after being released at the start of July speaks volumes.
Onana's shot stopping has been terrible. I'd make some concessions for him on account of him being new to the club and trying to play in a way that is more demanding of a goalkeeper, rather than being permanently rooted to his line and refusing to pass the ball. As the poster a couple of posts up points out, Ederson would look poor in this team too. He actually has been quite poor for City at times and is still considered one of the better goalkeepers in Europe. If Onana doesn't improve with time, he will rightly be replaced. That still wouldn't make De Gea good enough for this team, in the same way Joe Hart wasn't good enough for City after they sold Bravo.
At the minute it seems like we have no defence, no midfield and no attack. Its no wonder it seems like we have no goalkeeper.
I meant for a team who can’t create and score more than 60 goals in a league season splashing 55m on a new GK wasn’t going to solve anything. DDG was as good as anyone in our back line last season. You talk about front foot football yet we have players of questionable quality and consistency in many far more crucial positions when it comes to build up play. And forget the howlers from Onana, what improvements did we have from his supposed build up play quality and press resistance? Feck all. Some of you have tried to pretend that you have some superior football knowledge and the rest don’t understand front foot pressing and how teams stop pressing us and it helps the team bla bla bla. Well it all has crumbled down like the pile of shot that it
Onana has been terrible in all aspects that many criticised DDG for years. He is abysmal on crosses, shit in proactive play, absolutely dogshit on long passes, shot stopping and catching is amateur level. And no Ederson is absolutely miles ahead in every aspect. City also replaced Hart in the season after 2015/2016 which was probably one of their weakest ones in the last 10 years, still had the best attack in the league scoring 71 league goals. We had Weghorst on loan last season, from Burnley.
Fun fact he wasn’t the worst GK on the pitch yesterday.
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