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A high press does not need the keeper to be 40 yards out to work, of course it won't work if the keeper is routed to their line, but equally when pressing from the front it really won't make any odds where the keeper stands.

The defence should be on the half way line as a matter of habit whether the keepers up or not, that's basic football positioning.

Bollocks.
 
This guy enjoys talking to the press too much
I think he’s very media savvy. Publicly berating Maguire in one of his first appearances to get fans on his side, and now this OTT mea culpa.

Nothing wrong with knowing how to do this stuff, but fans should probably be aware that they’re being played like a fiddle. I only care about his performances, I don’t care how sad he feels when we lose.
 
I think he’s very media savvy. Publicly berating Maguire in one of his first appearances to get fans on his side, and now this OTT mea culpa.

Nothing wrong with knowing how to do this stuff, but fans should probably be aware that they’re being played like a fiddle. I only care about his performances, I don’t care how sad he feels when we lose.
How is this still a thing people are saying
 
People are talking about him as if he's a raw untested young keeper.
He's 27, made over 140 appearances for Ajax (Ok not a great asset to have on your CV) and 24 for Inter.
He's also made 35 international appearances.
We are not talking a rookie keeper here.
 
Might blow your mind to hear about all the goalkeepers playing football every weekend that regularly bollock sloppy defending, despite the absence of cameras.
We've been poor defensively in many matches this season.

Who else has he bollocked as visibly as he did to Maguire in a friendly?

McTominay could've done with some yesterday. Rashford quite a few times this season. Eriksen is another one. Martinez hasn't been pulling up trees either.

He just went after the easiest target in Maguire. The caf was creaming itself discussing how we finally have a no-nonsense keeper.
 
We've been poor defensively in many matches this season.

Who else has he bollocked as visibly as he did to Maguire in a friendly?

McTominay could've done with some yesterday. Rashford quite a few times this season. Eriksen is another one. Martinez hasn't been pulling up trees either.

He just went after the easiest target in Maguire. The caf was creaming itself discussing how we finally have a no-nonsense keeper.
Well he has been trash himself so he can't really call anyone else out.
 
I think it is way too early to criticize Onana, yes he messed up and he knows it, its what it is. DDG had massive blunders too.

With that said the whole idea that GKs need to be comfortable with the ball and all, I dont buy into that at all.
They need to be shot stoppers and make saves. The end of.
Its a bonus if they can do a bit more.
I will never consider it a great game by a GK if they had 70 passes, so what. But if they stop 10 shots yeah thats great.
 
We've heard this 'must improve' rehetoric from our players before. I'll believe it when he shows it on the pitch.
 
People are talking about him as if he's a raw untested young keeper.
He's 27, made over 140 appearances for Ajax (Ok not a great asset to have on your CV) and 24 for Inter.
He's also made 35 international appearances.
We are not talking a rookie keeper here.

Why is that not a great asset to have on your CV?

Edit: In case you meant staying for so long at Ajax: Van der Sar had 226 appearances before moving to another club.
 
We've been poor defensively in many matches this season.

Who else has he bollocked as visibly as he did to Maguire in a friendly?

McTominay could've done with some yesterday. Rashford quite a few times this season. Eriksen is another one. Martinez hasn't been pulling up trees either.

He just went after the easiest target in Maguire. The caf was creaming itself discussing how we finally have a no-nonsense keeper.
He’s pretty vocal in fairness. Probably more a case of the Maguire incident being highlighted because it’s Maguire than anything else.
 
He fecked up but also it was very nice to see that he (finally) tried to claim high balls. Also, he was absolutely amazing with the ball yesterday.

He will never be the guy who will win us games with saves though.
 
We've been poor defensively in many matches this season.

Who else has he bollocked as visibly as he did to Maguire in a friendly?

McTominay could've done with some yesterday. Rashford quite a few times this season. Eriksen is another one. Martinez hasn't been pulling up trees either.

He just went after the easiest target in Maguire. The caf was creaming itself discussing how we finally have a no-nonsense keeper.

:lol: What a load of bollox. When has a goalkeeper ever marched up the pitch to scream at midfielders?!

Goalkeepers will often chew out defender who makes a really obvious mistake. For Magure it was getting caught in possession just outside our box when he could easily have passed to Onana instead. So Onana needed to be sure to let him know not to let that happen again. Martinez hasn't been at his best but hasn't been involved in a similar incident, so hasn't got a flea in his ear from his keeper. This is all really basic, trivial stuff that anyone who's ever played football has seen a million time. It's a complete non-event. So weird (yet typical of this place) that you have people reading so much into it.
 
Why is that not a great asset to have on your CV?

Edit: In case you meant staying for so long at Ajax: Van der Sar had 226 appearances before moving to another club.

And that Ajax team missed the CL final by a minute.... no idea why the Ajax part isnt a great asset.
 
People are talking about him as if he's a raw untested young keeper.
He's 27, made over 140 appearances for Ajax (Ok not a great asset to have on your CV) and 24 for Inter.
He's also made 35 international appearances.
We are not talking a rookie keeper here.

Yes but Man Utd curse hit Onana too, nobody is immune to it.
 
We've been poor defensively in many matches this season.

Who else has he bollocked as visibly as he did to Maguire in a friendly?

McTominay could've done with some yesterday. Rashford quite a few times this season. Eriksen is another one. Martinez hasn't been pulling up trees either.

He just went after the easiest target in Maguire. The caf was creaming itself discussing how we finally have a no-nonsense keeper.

It’s impossible to prove or disprove, so I’d ignore anyone who claims to be certain either way, but I have to say the same thought crossed my mind. I wonder if he’d have behaved exactly the same had it been Varane not Maguire.
 
He’s pretty vocal in fairness. Probably more a case of the Maguire incident being highlighted because it’s Maguire than anything else.
Sure but our other defenders have also been making mistakes this season, has he bollocked them with the same ferocity?
 
All goalkeeper have howlers occasionally. It was a bad one granted but it happens.

He made a few good saves that kept us in the game and his distribution and playing out allowed us to have a foothold in the game at times aswell. Did well with a few corners that were swung into the 6 yard box aswell.

But disappointed with the lack of sweeping so far, although the defence is starting quite high they seem to keen to drop back to soon creating the space in midfield that teams are playing through, maybe this is just something that needs more work but the defence needs the confidence the keeper is there and willing to sweep to take the risk of holding that high line even under pressure.

I think what we're seeing is the true transition to ETH football, think De Gea held ETH back from being really able to implement his vision and now we are transitioning and just struggling to implement. The tough fixtures obviously haven't helped either.
 
still think it is what i feared when people were adamant with replacing ddg with a "modern keeper". Prob is the rest of our club really isnt suited to playing out from the back under pressure. So kinda pointless to hyperfocus on the gk aspect of that when the other big pieces arent in place. the modern gk addition should be the final piece of the puzzle, not one of the first ones. I still see onana having to do a lot of long hopefully passes, which is exactly what ddg was forced to do since nobody knows how to properly show for the ball to be able to receive under pressure and continue the passage of play (or perhaps players are just scared to make a mistake and dont want that pressure).
 
still think it is what i feared when people were adamant with replacing ddg with a "modern keeper". Prob is the rest of our club really isnt suited to playing out from the back under pressure. So kinda pointless to hyperfocus on the gk aspect of that when the other big pieces arent in place. the modern gk addition should be the final piece of the puzzle, not one of the first ones. I still see onana having to do a lot of long hopefully passes, which is exactly what ddg was forced to do since nobody knows how to properly show for the ball to be able to receive under pressure and continue the passage of play (or perhaps players are just scared to make a mistake and dont want that pressure).

This. And focusing too much on Onana also somewhat absolves how mediocre we've been at the back and in midfield. In fact, its hard to make a believeable case we're performing better at any position compared to last year, and Onana's start is merely a symptom of broader problems we're facing. This is more a management and training problem than anything else.
 
:lol: What a load of bollox. When has a goalkeeper ever marched up the pitch to scream at midfielders?!

I mean, he could scream at our midfielders when they tracked back into our penalty are......oh, hold on. I've spotted a flaw in my argument. Ignore me :lol:
 
When the entire team is playing poor...it makes individual analysis very difficult.

He had a poor game. It only looks worse considering the current run of results.
 
Really....

Off the top of my head

David Raya


Really...

England alone..

Raya £13m
Nick Pope £17M
Martinez £26m
Ortega £5m

All cheaper and better than Onana

Yeah maybe read my post properly first. Not going to bother with a newb this dense.
 
Is he playing behind the worst defence in his career? I felt Inter were super solid defensively and Ajax were the most dominant team in their league. Maybe those teams masked his deficiencies a little bit? I still think he's a smashing goalie and I really wanted us to sign him but it's been an almighty struggle for him so far.
 
Sure but our other defenders have also been making mistakes this season, has he bollocked them with the same ferocity?
It was a pre season game and I think it was because Onana wanted to ball specifically over Maguire just cocking up.

Pure conjecture but I’d imagine given how much press it got, he also might have been asked gently to tone it down outside the dressing room.
 
Is he playing behind the worst defence in his career? I felt Inter were super solid defensively and Ajax were the most dominant team in their league. Maybe those teams masked his deficiencies a little bit? I still think he's a smashing goalie and I really wanted us to sign him but it's been an almighty struggle for him so far.
For sure there's an element of this,

De Gea being a better shot stopper than Onana got away with it, Onana isn't as good as De Gea in that regards and so the mistakes or minor flaws he has, and he has a few, get highlighted more.

Onana brings good use of the ball and is certainly not shy of claiming crosses, both attributes missing from De Gea, but he has already made a fair few mistakes in his short time at United already, probably due to being in the line of fire more than he'd expect.
 
It’s difficult to lose this way because I think in the beginning we started very good and after my mistake we lost control of the game.

“It’s a difficult situation for us, for me especially because I’m the one who let the team down. But the team were good, very good, but because of me we didn’t win the game.

“I am happy for the work of the team and we just have to move on. This is life of the goalkeeper and if we didn’t win today it’s because of me.”

“I have to learn from it and be strong, move on,” the former Inter Milan player told TNT Sports.

“It’s not an easy situation but I’m very happy for the comeback of the team. We were fighting until the end, but I have to recognise because of me we didn’t win.

I have a lot to prove because, to be honest, my start in Manchester is not so good, not how I want.

“Play how I play today is one of my worst games and it’s difficult because we have big ambition, we are a very big club and we want to win everything.

Fair enough to him. Acknowledging it's his fault and admitting it is showing strong character. When is the last time any of our players did this?

Usually we get shite like this from the likes of Shaw and Bruno:"It's our fault, and we need as a team need to do better.", etc. De Gea's and Maguire's mistakes were usually covered by the club and not named, and stuff like that.
 
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