I think he was serious there.
Anderson on his way out?
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Everyone is always tongue in cheek with Anderson being fat and loving pies, I doubt it was very serious.
Ive seen a few people be deadly serious.
No. We need one midfielder as it is. Two if Anderson leaves. You can't really pin your hopes on someone who is always injured.
That's the other extreme right there though. Talk about devaluing adjectives.
About what? His weight?
He's clearly been a bit out of shape at times and no doubt it impacts his fitness levels, so naturally it annoys people a little.
He's clearly been a bit out of shape at times and no doubt it impacts his fitness levels, so naturally it annoys people a little.
I would rather keep him. As you point out, he is quite balanced and has huge potential for improvement (assuming injuries can be left behind).
If we were looking at a Martínez/M'Vila I don't see that as detrimental to him, just a better squad with the possible bonus of hitting the jackpot with him becoming the player he showed he could be.
However, if we are looking at that Carrick backup anyway and it's a question of him being sold to allow for Modric (numbers and budget-wise) then it would have to be considered.
Ando reminds me a bit of the sort of player we had in the 80s. all the ability in the world but a liking for the finer things in life mean a few extra pounds, undulating fitness levels and resulting spells out. I like him but cant see him lasting long at United at this stage
Good post, but isn't Dembele a bit similar to Kagawa ?
I wasn't being serious.
I actually think that Ando looked like he was improving in the past couple of seasons when he was available. For one he started finding the back of the net.
I would give him one more year to see how he goes but if a 15m bid materialised I would not be at all surprised to see it accepted.
I do however think that he has weight issues, relative to being a professional athlete.
One more year or 15m? Both sound reasonable to me.
Been playin a bit deeper than Kagawa usually does I think. If we did get £15m back for Anderson we should surely be aiming higher than Dembele. He has looked impressive on occasions though
The centre of midfield has been the weakest area of our team for a good few years now.
Every United fan deep down knows that we need to sign at least one midfielder this summer.
If Carrick did his ACL on the first day of September we'd be absolutely fecked.
Every United fan deep down knows that we need to sign at least one midfielder this summer.
If Carrick did his ACL on the first day of September we'd be absolutely fecked.
Ergo, selling one, if we already need one, makes no sense since we'd then need two.
Eh? I didn't mention anything about selling anybody mate.
How many years does Anderson have on his contract, out of interest?
It expires in 2015. Plenty of time left.
Fair enough. Will be interesting to see how that develops this season. Don't we usually extend when there are 2 years remaining? I think the club will be reluctant to extend it beyond 2015 at the moment so will have to wait and see how he does this season.
It's a frustration with Anderson. His career is so stop-start. He'll have a run of games and start to look good but then fails to really kick on and cement his place because his season is interrupted by injuries. It's all very snakes and ladders with Ando. It must be even more frustrating for him than it is for us.
Unfortunately though we just have too many unknown quantities in our midfield to keep our patience with his problems. It would be different if we had Keane and Scholes in their pomp turning out for us every week and Anderson was an understudy. Then we could afford to be more patient. With Scholes and Giggs nearing the end, Cleverley having similar problems as Anderson thus far (only 1 season) and Fletcher still an unknown then it leaves us short of consistent options in the engine room.
I'm still hopeful he will become that reliable midfielder for us. Fergie has been patient so far and I hope it bears fruit.
Either way, we need to sign.
We usually do but there have been a few instances where we've extended when there's just 1 year remaining (on those on long contracts), and both Welbeck and Rafael's current contracts expire in 2013. Papers have been reporting for a while about us giving Welbeck an improved contract but there has been nothing on Rafael so far.
Good post.
Can none of you remember how good Anderson was at times last year? This lad is going to be a beast!
a lame beast?
As said, we should only sell Anderson if it is part of signing someone better. My mention of Dembele was as a reasonable (somewhat underwhelming) option with no sales.
On his way out? To the chip shop probably, the fat feck.
I'd like to keep ando but if in order to sign a new midfielder that we need to sell than after park, ando would be my next to go. He's obviously got more long term than scholes and giggs but both of them have more to offer this year and potentially in giggs case next year as well.
I've said before but we're in a odd position in the middle. We only have carrick who is both in his peak and reliable to be fit. Scholes and giggs are on their way out and are incapable of playing every game and not suited to playing some games. Clev and ando are both young and learning, clev has just missed a whole season of development, not to mention both injury prone. Then fletcher is a massive doubt to play let alone be at the level he was.
All in all I don't think we can go in to next season with one reliably fit midfielder. Ideally I'd like to sign someone in their mid twenties but failing that a younger player, who has a good record fitness wise and has something to offer defensively. If that means ando has to make way than as I said its a shame but we're in big need for a midfielder of that ilk and another midfielder with a good injury record. Ideally we could send ando out on loan in order to see if he can keep fit and if he can get a full season, however I can't see that happening. If not that than hopefully we can keep them all and add someone, but 7 players for 2 spots would be quite excessive. Though I suppose with this likely being scholes last season it might be more of a one off high cost.
I've said before but we're in a odd position in the middle. We only have carrick who is both in his peak and reliable to be fit. Scholes and giggs are on their way out and are incapable of playing every game and not suited to playing some games. Clev and ando are both young and learning, clev has just missed a whole season of development, not to mention both injury prone. Then fletcher is a massive doubt to play let alone be at the level he was.
All in all I don't think we can go in to next season with one reliably fit midfielder. Ideally I'd like to sign someone in their mid twenties but failing that a younger player, who has a good record fitness wise and has something to offer defensively. If that means ando has to make way than as I said its a shame but we're in big need for a midfielder of that ilk and another midfielder with a good injury record. Ideally we could send ando out on loan in order to see if he can keep fit and if he can get a full season, however I can't see that happening. If not that than hopefully we can keep them all and add someone, but 7 players for 2 spots would be quite excessive. Though I suppose with this likely being scholes last season it might be more of a one off high cost.
I'd be a little disappointed if Anderson was sold, as there is definitely a player in there, agree with all those that said he was the driving force in the opening games of the season, he was brilliantly, plenty of one-touch passing and movement to receive first time passes
But the doubt is always the injuries, he's just so injury prone, prevents him getting an extended run in the team - which I think if he could get, would allow him to excel.
The quality if undoubtedly there, but there's a lot stopping him from delivering it consistently, which is why I do think that for the right price we would sell, not sure we'd get the right price though
Also, I guess what is due to happen with Fletcher could be a big influence on his future
But the doubt is always the injuries, he's just so injury prone, prevents him getting an extended run in the team - which I think if he could get, would allow him to excel.
The quality if undoubtedly there, but there's a lot stopping him from delivering it consistently, which is why I do think that for the right price we would sell, not sure we'd get the right price though
Also, I guess what is due to happen with Fletcher could be a big influence on his future
I would love this if true. It probably isn't though.
Ando is largely shit and has done very, very little to warrant a sixth season.
If he was called Andrews and was from Scotland he would have been hounded to death by the Caf.
Ando is largely shit and has done very, very little to warrant a sixth season.
If he was called Andrews and was from Scotland he would have been hounded to death by the Caf.
Absolutely
We are all entitled to our own opinions but your comments reminds me of a friend who is a proper nationalist with a bomber jacket and have a dialect like a southern red neck. No offense but this is utter bullshit!
The talent is there. The problem is the amount of time he passes in the treatment room.
I agree. The amount of shit Fletcher was taking when he was breaking through a few years ago proves this, really.
Anderson has had enough time, we can't be basing out midfield around him going forward, he is just too unreliable
What a twisted logic.
You write more bullshit posts in this place than I ever thought possible. You're the most miserable fecker I've ever come across. Constantly negative. I've no idea why you bother with football or United, you clearly derive no joy from it whatsoever.
what a lame comparison.
Fletcher didn't cost us anything, Nani and Ronaldo were bound to be superstars. Not to mention in his first season Nani hit double figures (assists + goals).
Anderson was given plenty of chances. His injuries didn't help him, but there's a time you know you have to let go.. I think that time has come. Unfortunately I can't see anyone giving us more than half the price mentioned.
a "- Goal.com" should probably be added to the title, or at least a question mark.
As I've said before on here, I'd be absolutely gutted if we got rid. I hardly ever remember thinking "Anderson was poor today" after a match, so the only problem for me is the injuries and I remain hopeful that they'll clear up. I think the weight thing gets blown out of proportion, sometimes jokingly but sometimes not.
As I've said before on here, I'd be absolutely gutted if we got rid. I hardly ever remember thinking "Anderson was poor today" after a match, so the only problem for me is the injuries and I remain hopeful that they'll clear up. I think the weight thing gets blown out of proportion, sometimes jokingly but sometimes not.
You are a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime. I refuse to believe that you are an United fan, probably a City fan on a WUM.
I wish the ignore feature worked on quoted posts
How do we know Scholes's slot will be freed up in a year?
Reading through these posts that seems to be the case but I have not seen it mentioned in the media or anywhere else on the CAF.
I think there is a good chance both Scholes and Giggs will retire next season and of course we should be passed relying on them too much anyway, but I had not heard any news on retirement for either.
For what's it is worth, if we had to trade in a midfielder to bring one in this summer, for a variety of reasons, Anderson is the one I would pick as well. That said, I would prefer to keep him and add one other as well like Pogue suggests.
Reading through these posts that seems to be the case but I have not seen it mentioned in the media or anywhere else on the CAF.
I think there is a good chance both Scholes and Giggs will retire next season and of course we should be passed relying on them too much anyway, but I had not heard any news on retirement for either.
For what's it is worth, if we had to trade in a midfielder to bring one in this summer, for a variety of reasons, Anderson is the one I would pick as well. That said, I would prefer to keep him and add one other as well like Pogue suggests.