Agreed.
Anderson on his way out?
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Agreed.
The issue with Anderson is that he has already reached his "potential" with United. He isn't going to get any better. He has been here since 2007 and he has not had one single stand out season.
I really fear if he hasn't had one yet...he never will.
I really fear if he hasn't had one yet...he never will.
How can you state this as fact? he's 24, not 34. Has no footballer ever improved beyond the age of 24? Are you fully developed as a player at 24 and then that's it? He's not even near his peak yet, which is generally though of as around 26-28/29 for a footballer. If he hasn't reached his peak, how can you say he isn't going to get any better?
he has been so unlucky with injuries.
I hope he stays and fulfills his potential...and remains injury free.
I hope he stays and fulfills his potential...and remains injury free.
He stepped up last season but the injuries messed him up again. I think if he stays it's probably his last season to show that he can stay fit and available and be a big influence on games.
You're all blind fanboys.
Maybe he'll play well for a few games here and there next season, then we won't see him again.
Maybe he'll play well for a few games here and there next season, then we won't see him again.
The problem is its just keeps happening.
Builds up some great form - Gets Injured - Poor on return - Gradual improvement
Then it all starts again. There's only so long you can persist with that and I just wonder when Fergie will reach the end of his tether.
Builds up some great form - Gets Injured - Poor on return - Gradual improvement
Then it all starts again. There's only so long you can persist with that and I just wonder when Fergie will reach the end of his tether.
Anderson will be fine. Once he gets his old hair back, ditches the laser guided shoulder rocket and takes off his mask for a good old fight he'll be on top form! You'll see.
We can't get a player of his quality for what we'd get for him if sold.
Besides Scholes he's the most creative passer on the team.
Like most of our players he's underrated so we won't get a fair value, people seem to think it's magic that a midfield of Carrick and Anderson could win a big game.
Besides Scholes he's the most creative passer on the team.
Like most of our players he's underrated so we won't get a fair value, people seem to think it's magic that a midfield of Carrick and Anderson could win a big game.
Ando is the closest young talent we have to Xavi and Schweinsteiger, apart from lack of stamina he have all the tools to be a midfield general. I pray to God he can have one injury free season and become the player he have the capacity to be.
Sheer lunacy.
I'm not stating a fact, it's an opinion. Of course footballers have improved beyond 24, I'm just not convinced Anderson will. At least not at this club.
He arrived at United aged 19 and in 5 years he has never truly cemented a first team spot on a regular basis. Fabregas was running Arsenal's midfield when he was 19 or 20 with full internationals to compete with, and he's had injury problems just like Anderson. He's had good periods of consistency but never taken his game to the next level.
Don't get me wrong I think he is a good player. The thing is this....5 years at Manchester United should be long enough to make your mark, he's had all the support he needs, but he just hasn't delivered....and he has never seriously looked like becoming a nailed on first team player, let alone a successor to Paul Scholes.
Anderson > Manuel Fernandes
I'd rip there fecking arm off for £15m, I'm surprised anyone would offer £15 for him
With what we've seen of him so far during his time here, he has looked good for the most part and warrants a place in our squad. However, I don't ever see him being "the guy" and an automatic starter like Scholes was for us. He'll probably be a very good squad player for us like Park was and is worth keeping around.
Personally, I think if he were to go to Serie A or La Liga, he'd do really well and we'd regret selling him for only 15 million because he'd be worth twice that in another league because of his performances.
Personally, I think if he were to go to Serie A or La Liga, he'd do really well and we'd regret selling him for only 15 million because he'd be worth twice that in another league because of his performances.
The way you worded it "already fulfilled his potential" "he isn't going to get any better" didn't come across as opinion, it cane across as you stating a fact, one which nobody can be certain about. If it's opinion just, then fair enough, my opinion differs. I think all he needs is an injury free run.
It's strange how it's fared out so far. After his first season, including shitting on Fabregas and Gerrard, I made a prediction he would become 1 of the top 5 midfielders in 3-4 years' time. How wrong it was. My only genuinely crap prediction at such stuff.
And yes, he was utterly good in bits in his debut season here. 'The midfield general' associations would be quite appropriate. Since then, though, it all went downhill.
Hope the lad can turn it around, I'd give him another chance and hope for no more injuries.
And yes, he was utterly good in bits in his debut season here. 'The midfield general' associations would be quite appropriate. Since then, though, it all went downhill.
Hope the lad can turn it around, I'd give him another chance and hope for no more injuries.
Your ideal of shitting appears to be sitting on the toilet while turds fire up your arse.
What? He's bloody miles behind both of those two so if he's the closest we have, the God help us. I like Anderson all right but he's done nothing to suggest that he's the man to dictate play from our midfield in the way Scholes has.
will be interesting of he gets a look in early in the season and looks decent.Seems he's brought out the doom and gloom in a lot of supporters.
lol
No footballer likes being injured. Sitting on the sidelines watching his team mates participating.
Does everyone really think that the likes of Hargreaves/Anderson/Saha wanted to be injured.
Ando is still young, i feel one more year to prove his fitness is required. I think that SAF feels the same. The boy is talented. He just needs a bit of luck.
Does everyone really think that the likes of Hargreaves/Anderson/Saha wanted to be injured.
Ando is still young, i feel one more year to prove his fitness is required. I think that SAF feels the same. The boy is talented. He just needs a bit of luck.
Of course not. However its pretty evident that Hargreaves/Saha/Ando are injury prone and relying on such players can be tricky.
The problem is if we go into the season pinning our hopes on Anderson's fitness again, only for him to break down which leaves us with the same midfield we finished and struggled the season with. A risk I hope we do not take.
If that's the case then we really are fecked aren't we.
He'll never be near their level.We need to be pro-active here and go and buy Modric - then if Anderson truly can stay fit and make the step up development wise he'll have to fight his way into the team. Win win for us because we'll be covered personnel-wise, and not run the risk of yet another season of midfield woes
Even if we signed Modric he wouldn't really have to fight his way into the team. This is Scholes and Giggs last season (and feck knows how much they'll play), Pogba looks gone, Cleverley is injury prone and Fletcher will probably never be the player he used to be. Carrick is also 31!
Plenty of space for him.
Plenty of space for him.
Non point selling Ando as he would fetch a dismal fee
In my opinion we need a cover for Carrick and someone who can replace Scholes. If that means having to sell Ando, then so be it.
If that's the case then we really are fecked aren't we.
Ando is 24 years old and haven't have a injury free season since he was a teenager. 3 serious carrier threatening injuries in the space of five years and he still manages to play on highest level who's including 3 PL titles, 3 CL finals, 1 Olympic final and you laugh at him and find my comparison silly.
I rest my case.
Including his time at Porto his medal collection looks like this
Porto
Primeira Liga (2): 2005–06, 2006–07
Taça de Portugal (1): 2005–06
Manchester United
Premier League (3): 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11
Football League Cup (1): 2008–09
UEFA Champions League (1): 2007–08
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008
Probably more silverware than the entire Arsenal first team put together.
BTW I did not include the Olympic Bronze because even an Olympic Gold medal in football is fairly irrelevant.
What does John O Shea have?
And, what does Cesc Fabregas have?
Does that mean O Shea is better than Anderson and Fabregas is worse than him?
Im disillusioned with Anderson at this stage. He has been given chances, we have been patient and he has not delivered. As it stands I would rather we took a punt on a promising youngster in the mould of Pogba (as an example), than persevere with a player who has failed to live up to expectations for 5 years, struggled with injuries and fitness and looked out of shape on more than one occassion.
Deary me, what the bollocks does his medal count have to do with anything? He's hardly been integral in any of those successes.
He rested his case Zen, proof that he's correct.
Absolute ball hang.
I don't really know what ball hang means in this context but it sounds funny.