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2017-18 Performances


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Yup, by far a better midfielder than Herrera who also scores important goals at times, but he doesn't get credit because he doesn't look as pretty.

It was Ander's first game back, so won't crucify him. But he needs to step up significantly, his inclusion pretty much cost us today.
I love Fellaini, and think he gets unfair hate but I don't think he's better than Ander.

I think they are around the same level each with their own strengths but also having glaring deficiencies too.
 
Difficult game to come into as a first proper game of the season. I wouldn't read too much into it.
 
Is it me or he became completely invisible in the second half after a good first half? Can't recall anything he did in the second half.
 
I love Fellaini, and think he gets unfair hate but I don't think he's better than Ander.

I think they are around the same level each with their own strengths but also having glaring deficiencies too.

Fellaini is far better in crunch situations. He changes the flow of the game and gets us on the front foot by brute force.

Herrera is very intelligent, but unfortunately he has more going for him mentally than physically.
 
He holds onto the ball too long for my liking. There were several moments where Rashford and others were making a run and he chose to pass it sideways after holding onto the ball for 5 sec. I hope its because he's rusty.
 
Ander has yet to have a convincing game this season. I'd like to see him at the level he was at in Stockholm. Right now he looks firmly behind Fellaini as an option.
 
Ander has yet to have a convincing game this season. I'd like to see him at the level he was at in Stockholm. Right now he looks firmly behind Fellaini as an option.
He's played two games.
 
Surplus to requirements. Kept running into matics position. We would've won the game if we went with a midfield two.
 
Is it me or he became completely invisible in the second half after a good first half? Can't recall anything he did in the second half.

He played so deep in second half, almost like defender, he's even in line with Baily when defending, very weird
 
Is it me or he became completely invisible in the second half after a good first half? Can't recall anything he did in the second half.
Thought he had a very poor first half. As mentioned earlier, a weird game (stoke away) to bring a guy back into the first xi. No love lost but eat a healthy takeaway rather than nandos tonight...
 
He was fine first half. In the second half he was very deep, almost in line with the CBs. Maybe a tactical change to have him deeper.
 
He was okay, but nothing special today. Playing him along with Matic and Pogba was just overkill. We should have played Mata instead, or rest Matic. An extra attacker from the start would have made a difference today.

Also, we missed Fellaini today.
 
Should be a rotational option for Matic in DMF. They really shouldn't play together anymore as he offers very little offensively.
 
Should be a rotational option for Matic in DMF. They really shouldn't play together anymore as he offers very little offensively.
He got 11 assists last season. Think he got used to playing DM last season and now has to get used not to playing DM. The mindset is different. Also he was obviously rusty today. Our defending should have been a lot better.
 
He was better than Matic though today, Matic had an awful game, although I can see why Jose keep Matic in the field especially against that Stoke side, but Herrera made a lot more dangerous passes while Matic lost possession a few times and really doesn't offer much defensively in this game for some reason, and Herrera always link-up well with Valencia
 
Should be a rotational option for Matic in DMF. They really shouldn't play together anymore as he offers very little offensively.

It would be fine in a game where we don't have the most possession and the opposition is strong , but this was stoke ffs. We had something like 60 or 70% possession in the game I think.
 
He was better than Matic though today, Matic had an awful game, although I can see why Jose keep Matic in the field especially against that Stoke side, but Herrera made a lot more dangerous passes while Matic lost possession quite a bit, and Herrera always link-up well with Valencia
Problem is then Valencia cannot do anything right after that.
 
He got 11 assists last season. Think he got used to playing DM last season and now has to get used not to playing DM. The mindset is different.

Then there's no need to change him to another position. He used to assist the balls from deep positions as a DMF so keeps him there. He has some nice long throughs from the deep midfield but starting him with Matic gives the team too much unneeded defensive shape.
 
It would be fine in a game where we don't have the most possession and the opposition is strong , but this was stoke ffs. We had something like 60 or 70% possession in the game I think.
That is why he is so good against the likes of City/Chelsea/Liverpool/Spurs. The games where you want him to break up their play and link wide or to Pogba.
 
Problem is then Valencia cannot do anything right after that.

I thought he is supposed to be one of the most-accurate crosser in the league?? :smirk:

Today it seems like Herrera and Matic occupy each other areas too much, different when Herrera play with Carrick as Carrick is not the type to roam around, when playing in midfield 3 Matic should have stayed as DM and let Pogba and Ander roaming, but that didn't work too well tonight
 
I thought he is supposed to be one of the most-accurate crosser in the league?? :smirk:

Today it seems like Herrera and Matic occupy each other areas too much, different when Herrera play with Carrick as Carrick is not the type to roam around, when playing in midfield 3 Matic should have stayed as DM and let Pogba and Ander roaming, but that didn't work too well tonight
Correct on all points.
 
That is why he is so good against the likes of City/Chelsea/Liverpool/Spurs. The games where you want him to break up their play and link wide or to Pogba.

I know, think Jose went a bit too defensive today with the midfield choice.

The annoying part is that Stoke did not even try to control the game, they targeted our FBs and often just bypassed the midfield by playing it long.
 
I know, think Jose went a bit too defensive today with the midfield choice.

The annoying part is that Stoke did not even try to control the game, they targeted our FBs and often just bypassed the midfield by playing it long.
He said he was going to target our weakness and he knew it was the fullbacks. If anything he knew to bypass the midfield because it has been our strength.
 
Matic was poor, Pogba even worse how is Herrera the only one to get hanged for this performance? Think he was better than both of the other cm's we played today...
 
Matic was poor, Pogba even worse how is Herrera the only one to get hanged for this performance? Think he was better than both of the other cm's we played today...

Weird isn't it? I guess it's because Jose change the winning team and put Herrera in, and people just think he's the problem that makes us not win, he did disappear in 2nd half, but he's the only midfielder to have many good and dangerous pass in the first half
 
Weird isn't it? I guess it's because Jose change the winning team and put Herrera in, and people just think he's the problem that makes us not win, he did disappear in 2nd half, but he's the only midfielder to have many good and dangerous pass in the first half
Ok so when Jose took him off why didn't we cruise this? I know we lost points today but he wasn't the fault today or at least not the only one.. I can pick many in front of him..
 
Why is Herrera being crucified? I also didn't want him to start but he was better than his midfield counterparts today and anyone saying otherwise is just being plain biased..

Still think we should stick to a matic-pogba midfield against smaller teams (like stoke) though
 
Though still poor he was better than Pogba and Matic. Will still get jumped on while the others performances, Matics in particular, get overlooked.
 
Ok so when Jose took him off why didn't we cruise this? I know we lost points today but he wasn't the fault today or at least not the only one.. I can pick many in front of him..

No he definitely isn't, but the midfield three today just didn't click like the way it supposed to and we seem to play better with midfield two, for me Matic is the one that is supposed to go off
 
Ok so when Jose took him off why didn't we cruise this? I know we lost points today but he wasn't the fault today or at least not the only one.. I can pick many in front of him..


Uh, I think you quoted the wrong guy.. The dude's basically agreeing with what you saying.
 
Shite!!!

Knew he should have signed for Barca instead of replacing Rooney on the slaughter table :rolleyes:
 
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