He probably would but we aren't a high pressing team so he isn't the right fit. We need our midfielders to control games and dictate the tempo. His passing lacks variation. It's always short and mostly back to the direction it came from. He does a lot of running but very little injection of quality.Yesterday he was very good ofcourse and he is capable of making those passes through the lines but when was the last time we saw a pass like that from him? He can do that every game but for some reason doesn't want to show enough adventure in his passing. I'm talking about things in general. He hasn't nailed a spot in midfield for 4 years now for various reasons. If there was no doubts about his quality we wouldn't be debating about this.
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still think our best team would have a midfield 3 of him, Pogba and Matic.
Think he had more minutes than pretty much any other player last season, which is why even last month he had played the 5th most minutes under Mourinho whilst not being first choice for most of a season. He must have been an important player at some point for that to happen.
They aren't even similar players but Herrera leaves Dier in the dust in just about every facet other than defending and aerial presence.
Awful display. Mctominay over Herrera in the DM position. Cant start plays due to his poor dribbling and limited passing range. Missed more than a couple easy tackles, putting the team in danger. Its incredible how peple here consider that a good display.
Why would I need to be positive if I don’t particularly rate him? Strange comment from you if you are being honest as I said he was decent but not to the point where praise is due after 4 years of being very ordinary I’ve to praise him after playing decent one game. Yes hilarious reading my friend... obviously see the game and players much differently.
Herrera’s passing over 15 yards plus is very poor. Dier in my opinion is head and shoulders better than Herrera. I’d swap him for Herrera in a minute.
It’s how much standards have fallen in my opinion. Herrera started off last night dodgy although his display grew as the game went on to being actually decent but great display it certainly wasn’t but then the Herrera fans go ott and it’s obvious who they are and where have they been all season when McTominay has been starting ahead of Herrera. Or the past how many seasons when how many managers have not had the confidence to select him as a regular. Same old same old, this forum is littered with these threads from TC23 or Gibson or Depay or Morgan and Herrera is now in the same boat as these guys found themselves. I suggest some posters should go back and read these before jumping on others.
In that case what's the point of you posting in here if, regardless of he's done, you're going to talk negatively about here? Yeah alright. In 4 years he's had one 'decent' game, last year's POTY. There's a difference between 'not rating him' and going out of the way to be critical. Seriously, go through your posts, there's isn't a single wholly positive one, it's baffling.
He's probably McTominay's dad.
You think Herrera isn't good enough going forward and want him replaced with McTominay of all people? Can you not see the flaw in that plan?
It only happened one time iirc.
Seriously you are being a complete Bell end now. Who said in 4 years he’s had one decent game? Stop making shit up buddy to fit your narrative. Plus it’s a football forum if everyone agreed it would be pointless a bit like you are being now. Either come back and act like an adult or go away as you are now being boring.
He is. But that doesn't mean he always tries to play great passes or has the confidence to do everything he's capable of. These days he doesn't take much time on the ball and mostly just keeps the ball. Like you say he can play some fantastic passes too but this season and even some of last season he doesnt try those passes often enough. He just keeps the ball and tries to keep it moving and he's shown he can do more than that
Yep 1 time. Just like Matic had a weak tackle that was walked through in the previous match. Neither is really what you want from your deepest playing CM, but thats not really Ander's position so its more of an issue with Matic imo.
Seriously?
Do you suffer from short term memory loss or something?
It's very simple. Despite regularly posting in this thread you've not managed to say a single good thing about him without following it up with criticism. Honestly, why do you keep coming here if you aren't going to comment objectively? Did the bloke bully you as a child or something?
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Thought he was fantastic yesterday, especially off the ball, which he normally is, to be honest. I prefer him when he's the deepest midfielder. Gets the ball and keeps the ball ticking over. Great pass to assist for the goal too.
You should be demoted to newbies, such terrible posts. Seriously what’s your problem? It’s not about an opinion in your case, you’re just being an eejit. No objectivity at all..
Just realize we don't miss Mata that much in transitioning possession upfield and keeping it around in opposition half.
And Herrera could even do it better with his high energy, endless pressing and good timing interceptions.
When Herrera is in good form
he's just that good. Still creative clearly.
And Herrera could even do it better with his high energy, endless pressing and good timing interceptions.
When Herrera is in good form
he's just that good. Still creative clearly.I don't think there are many people in this thread covering themselves in glory TBH. Herrera has been a good player for us overall and was excellent last season. Saying he's not a good passer of the ball is insane. You don't get to play over 150 games for Man United if you can't pass the ball. He's an oldschool midfielder who does a great job no matter what he's asked to do. Even worse is commenting that it says it all because he hasn't broken into the Spanish national team. A lot of excellent players haven't featured for their national teams as much as they perhaps deserve including two of the best midfielders we've had in the past 20 years.
However, calling someone out for being negative about a player they don't rate is a bit silly. What do you expect?
However, calling someone out for being negative about a player they don't rate is a bit silly. What do you expect?
There's a distinct difference between someone being negative again a player and someone making 51 posts in a player performance thread and not one of them being positive.
I completely agree, a thread ban would be justified. Just it's probably pointless arguing.
Unfortunately I think you're right.
Fellaini has. Just saying...... I don't think Herrera is a bad passer. Just lacks variation. He doesn't also dictate the tempo and always rushes into challenges giving away a lot of silly fouls. He's very risk averse and that's what gets on my nerves. Stuff like not looking up before passing and going backwards a lot is what slows the tempo down.
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It's really weird because he's shown he has a real eye for a pass with some wonderful assists in his United career but he plays like the ball is lava and he's been told to play pass the parcel whilst tripping on acid. Can't get rid of it quick enough and doesn't think whilst he's doing it.
He's clearly a much better footballer than he lets on and he's shown he can do it before so what gives?
He's clearly a much better footballer than he lets on and he's shown he can do it before so what gives?
Man Utd 2:1 Tottenham
A performance Roy Keane would've been proud of. Absolutely incredible.
Huge huge performance today. Absolutely brilliant.
Man of the Match for me. Was top class both in attack and defence.
Imagine being one of those whoppers that think we can get rid of him and replace him with some halfwit from a midtable side in Serie A.
A confident Herrera is brilliant. His start to the season was more of a blip than anything more serious.
A confident Herrera is brilliant. His start to the season was more of a blip than anything more serious.
Deserved the goal. If not for Sanchez I would have given him MOTM. Great goal but it's not just that, his interception were beyond amazing ! Excellent defensive job.
Why do pundits continually make out that he's a cnut of a player?
Im genuinely baffled at this.
Im genuinely baffled at this.
We would have knocked out Sevilla if we had him for both games.
Ander was my MOTM against Spurs. He was absolutely everywhere. You hear cliches about covering every blade of grass but today it was true: his defensive contribution was incredible and to add the winning goal to that...Take a bow son!
Can't wait to see his game stats.
Can't wait to see his game stats.
Should have 100% of the votes for MOM, by far and away the best player on the park today.
He is a bit of a cnut as a player tbh. Exact type that all oppo fans hate. Sometimes exaggerates contact, has a lot of little dirty kicks (not too dirty, just enough), constant niggly fouls, complains, wastes time... He's like Mourinho personified on the pitch.
The definition of a big game player. What a man. Love him.
Pogba-Matic-Herrera should be the midfield every game until the end of the season now.
Big Game Ander.
Another mammoth performance
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