I hope this right wing back madness stops before it even starts. Wasting the kid there
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Dalot is best suited on the bench. He was shit again.
Yes poor game yesterday. I dont recall he having a great game ever on the left. He is much better on the right - his natural side.
I hope the club moves him on next summer.
You won't get any arguments from me on the second part.
The only slight benefit of the doubt I can give him is that he was playing on the left, if he gets the chance on the right in Amorim's system and still can't make it work, I'd drop him too.
Our attack need a player like Amad that is able to make a difference. The result and the game obviously showed that. Him playing well there doesn't mean that is the best for the team. It's only justified if the team is flying or the result is showing, but obviously that isn't the case.
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This was one of his best displays in a United shirt. While we obviously want to see our most gifted players further forward, it’s a transitional period, he’s only 22 and I thought he played very well.
You’re wrong - and I’m not going to do a silly back and forth about this either. He played relatively well because he’s technically sound, but he’s played better before - and no this wasn’t one of his best displays. He’s wasted as a wing back and needs to play closer to opposition goal
I’m not being overly critical of Amorim as he’s had limited time with the players and not all options are available just yet, hence - “I hope this thing stops before it even becomes a thing”
Nope, you’re wrong.
I don’t think his future needs to be as a wingback for him to fill in now. He’s 22 and playing in different positions rather than on the bench which is quite often his place, can only help him. Besides, with the team we had out there yesterday we simply didn’t have players capable of dropping deeper and helping out start attacks so his technical quality was needed in that regard. Being part of the attack may have just resulted in him barely seeing the ball as the rest treated it like a hot potato.
I agree it was out of necessity it seems (available centre backs pushing Mazraui there). He needs to play as one of the players behind the striker, on form pushing Garnacho to the brench. Mazraui to the wing back, Yoro in RCB place. He had a solid game. His understanding with Mazraui also looks promising.
Regardless of his role, you'd like to think the narrative of him being lazy is done now.
You'd also expect him to be player of the month again regardless of the Bodoe/Glimt result.
You'd also expect him to be player of the month again regardless of the Bodoe/Glimt result.
He’s never been anything but the opposite of lazy, so I don’t think that narrative is going away because of reality.
He’s a good shout for player of the month, yea. Him and Onana.
What was the 2nd time?
I remember reading posts in Amad threads before that he was slow
Really good performance from him. In my opinion at the moment Onana, Mazraroui and Amad are the first names on the team sheet.
Agreed. Would be interesting to see Amad start instead of Bruno as a 10 as he retains possession so much better allowing the midfield players some respite and so could enable Casimero to be more impactful (especially his forward passing) rather than being knackered from having to constantly run back.I remember reading posts in Amad threads before that he was slow
Really good performance from him. In my opinion at the moment Onana, Mazraroui and Amad are the first names on the team sheet.
He’s not that good on the right too. His crosses and shots are basically just hit as hard as possible and hope for the best.
People just overrate him because his game looks nice with him being able to get forward frequently. But the fact is he’s useless once he gets the ball in the final third because he shits the bed and just try whacking the ball as hard as possible.
None of his best attributes are on display at wing-back; the inside right role is custom made for him in this system and we have nobody else who has his skillset and technical ability to thrive and exploit half spaces with sudden bursts of athleticism, technical ability and creativity - he can take pictures of unfolding play and exploit, unlike the rest.
Antony, Dalot and the like should be contesting a position so far away from the action, not our most incisive player and I hope that little experiment is put to bed post haste because it’s a waste of talent and we don’t have much of that here.
Antony, Dalot and the like should be contesting a position so far away from the action, not our most incisive player and I hope that little experiment is put to bed post haste because it’s a waste of talent and we don’t have much of that here.
You must have missed the first goal
I think he will convince the manager to use him in AM, but he showed that he can play wingback very well with his pace, dribbling and found a good cross for Rashford to finish. These are some of his best attributes
Playing further forward and inside will enable him to start his attacks further up the pitch than he did for the first goal and be more of a threat to the opposition keeper. But he was fantastic at wingback as well.
Amad stuck to his defensive work fairly well, but in terms of what he did on the ball it was really only the first 10 minutes and then that moment at the end of the match where he did anything notable. The rest of the time he almost always just received the ball, looked forward and then passed it back to a central defender. Long term we really need the wingback to be moving the ball forward (either through carrying it himself or passing it) a lot more than Amad did in this match. In saying that, if nobody was actually making themselves available to receive a pass then it's not all his fault, but his lack of carrying the ball forward (other than the first 10 minutes where he did it a few times) did limit us a bit.
Don't get me wrong, he played well and was one of our better players. When we actually got him near the opposition box he was by far the most dangerous player. But by playing in that position he didn't get near the opposition box anywhere near enough. I feel that in his relatively small sample size of performances, he's had quite a lot of better performances.
I think you're going to be dissappointed if you want to see our wingbacks making more than 2 dribbles and 2 key passes in games
All of Sporting's wingback options are 1.6 key passes or less per game. Quenda averages 2 dribbles a game and 1.6 key passes and Catamo 2.3 dribbles but with 1 key pass
Edit - Araujo has played LWB and does average 5.1 dribbles but 1.7 key passes. But Catamo, Nuno Santos and Quenda are picked more often.
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Unless something unpredictable happens I think the starting right side 10 will be his when everyone is available.
It doesn’t really matter if he showed he can play wingback; how about he shows his optimal level in the pocket of space where he is perma threat throughout a game rather than sporadically, like for the goal you cite? Even for the benefit of the team, it’s more useful to have someone who can give the opposition fits trying to track him and his actions, closer to the action in hotter zones of the pitch.
Wingback is frankly too unglamorous a role for someone who has the potential to be our conduit to both goals and assists with his ability and footballing brain, so if someone is to be ‘dumped’ there, it should be the likes of Antony, who has the graft and studiousness to play there and whose sporadic threat is better catered for from there.
Ultimately, it’s a waste having Amad so far away from the action in hotter. Making him an occasional threat rather than a constant one is not what we should be doing; it’s not like we have a Wirtz-level usurper that makes it understandable, as that would be hierarchal, with the superior threat then going inside, relegating Amad to wingback. At this moment, Amad is the Wirtz-level player and should have first dibs on the role over anyone else.
You’ve literally highlighted why Amad shouldn’t be there. Way, way to low in attacking data; that’s a role for someone else.
He's technically one of our best players. I think he'll find a role somewhere for sure, even if it's probably not wingback in the long term. We're so short of actual good players on the ball, I expect him to play a lot.
We will probably play Dalot or Maz there once all our centre backs are available/fit again.
It's not so much the key passes, which I expect Amad will do very well when he gets in the right positions. More just the normal progressive passing that helps the team move forward and get on the front foot rather than back to the central defenders. Nothing wrong with passing it back when needed, but against Ipswich it definitely happened too often IMO. Perhaps that was due to teammates not making themselves available (it's a bit hard to tell sometimes on television), but at the time it felt like Amad was just playing too safe a lot of the time.
Ultimately, if Amad is going to play that role regularly, the two things that I definitely want to improve is him progressing the ball better (whether through passing or carrying it) and he himself getting into attacking positions more often. Considering this was the first ever time he's played that position and the first time the team has played that formation, it's something that could easily just improve with time. But right now I tend to think both he and the team would be better off with him closer to the opposition goal in one of the #10's.
You're probably right. He did an excellent job in an unfamiliar position but was a bit too cautious at times. He's surely been earmarked for 1 of the #10 positions in the long run though, he's just too technically talented to be out on the touchline for most of the match.
I remember reading posts in Amad threads before that he was slow
Really good performance from him. In my opinion at the moment Onana, Mazraroui and Amad are the first names on the team sheet.
He has an extra gear. He just doesnt use it often.
I noticed it when he was playing in some academy game years back -- he has this sudden burst of speed which surprised me. Strangely, I have not seen it utilised since even at Rangers or even Sunderland.
It's still a mystery why ETH just didnt fancy Amad and utilise him as much. It was so obvious that he was the most technical player on the team; he's fantastic at keeping the ball, playing one-twos and finding the passing angles.
Amorim was just working with what he had, and I don’t think we’ll see Amad in this role long term.
When a club spends 80 or so million on a player you wanted, you're inclined to try make it work.
I'm guilty of it myself in FM24
He's a bit like Foden in that sense. You're fooled into thinking that he's one of those technical, creative, passer type of players. However, he definitely is deceptively fast.
Always fit, can play multiple positions. He should stay.
Good teams have players like him.
Or
Brain dead, prone to mistakes and not very good in any position. He should go.
Good teams don't have players like him.
that first goal was absolute mint, fastest i ve seen him run, and in control of the ball. The build up thgrough the wing in a high intensity game liek yesterday, you need only the most technical and fastest players, and it could work there with Amad. His workrate was great too, could fulfil his defensive duties well. At least there is potential in the team, to work with for Amorim.
He was there due to a shortage of centre backs. Going forward it’ll be Shaw / Maz / Dalot
Interesting you say that as I thought he was pretty good there imo. Once Yoro is back I anticipate it will be Maz at right wingback however.
He needs to be playing as one of the no.10’s long term. He’s our biggest attacking threat and should be spending most of his time in the oppositions box instead of his own. Hopefully when Yoro returns he’ll be moved further up and pitch and we’ll play Mazraoui at wing back instead.