Oh dear, feel for grandpa Joe. It's time to retire now, enjoy the last few years of life.
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump v Harris
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Surely the fact that Trump and co are desperate for Biden to stay and race is a clear enough indicator to Biden and co that something is amiss?
It's gonna be impossible for Biden to shift the narrative now. He could have a decent performance, and then make one gaffe and it will shared endlessly on both traditional and new media. Every news website in the world is running with the headline that he said Putin instead of Zelensky. And him keeping it to one gaffe would be a dream scenario for him.
It's over and he needs to realize it.
It's over and he needs to realize it.
If you've end up with these 2 clowns, you have to completely transform the political system. They're a fecking laughing stock.
Sure. My bar was Trump. Feck Trump.
Democrats need to wakeup and smell the coffee.
Biden is a guaranteed loss at this point even to Trump.
Biden is a guaranteed loss at this point even to Trump.
Gaffe is some innocent lapsus linguaue.
But he called Zelenskiy Putin and Harris Trump. Those are not gaffes, those are huge blunders.
They know. They want him gone after the summit.
What must it be like trying to have serious meetings with him. Does he just sit there and let advisors speak, or does everyone listen, nod their heads and let him ramble. It must be so awkward.
This is just like Ten Hag last season. We need one disastrous performance before everyone admits what they already know, and he keeps scraping draws or acceptable defeats.
Biden's debate performance was the 0-4 to Crystal Palace away. Ten Hag then went on to win the FA Cup and keep his job. So Biden will win?
If Biden wins we all lose.
EDIT: Wins the nomination, I mean. Not the election. Which unfortunately he can’t win.
He's already won the nomination though.
I’m fully with you and it’s just cope to suggest anything otherwise at this stage
ETH won the FA cup which means we all lost. Am I doing this right?
The Biden's would rather have Trump, than to give up their shot at power in an election they can never win.
Jill Biden is the real monster here
Jill Biden is the real monster here
Well, he had it handed to him.
It's The Biden Show!!
Anyway...
Anyway...
I can't wait for the inevitable scandal where key democrats knew Biden had a cognitive illness and pushed for him to be president anyway.
Can you imagine how many of these blunders he’s had in private. Every day. The mental process of mass denial and coverup in his camp will have been quite something
Get out, Joe. I like you but this is the final straw. I cannot believe I'm witnessing the Dems hand this crucial election to Trump on a silver platter. The saddest thing is I've known since 2020 that Trump would get back in, despite everything that's happened, and all of this just makes it more certain now.
Once you taste that sweet sweet nectar called Power, its difficult to let go.
Anyone else sure, but not him.
What you don't seem to understand is that this is the only kind of mistakes people are now seeing and waiting for. Each single one will be under intense scrutiny, magnified and used against him.
Apart from a few gaffes, the reactor operators at chernobyl had a solid performance on april 26th 1986.
Damn, thats bleak. This moment is going to go down in history for all the wrong reasons. America really needs (needed) a third party to break the duopoly.
Republican establishment arrogance led to Trump taking over the party. Democrat establishment arrogance has already handed him one term and about to gift him another.
It is really sad that the people close to him are allowing this to happen. I am pretty sure a younger intelligent, sound of mind Joe Biden would be appalled at this and it is really sad that he is put out there for the world to ridicule him.
With such stances Biden doesn’t stand a chance for reelection, hopefully the Dem candidate to replace Biden will have a better political intuition. One thing he doesn’t fully grasp is USA love a winner not a loser.
Why is there no talk of a 3rd candidate momentum? Don't tell me the only current options are fecking Jill Stein or the lunatics from the libertarian party?
Surely this is the best opportunity in decades to break the two party system? I mean, even if no one expects a win, surely million of people are happy to get behind a third option just to make a statement when the two other options are a potential dementia patient and fecking Trump?
Wasn't there a viable 3rd option back in the early 90s?
Surely this is the best opportunity in decades to break the two party system? I mean, even if no one expects a win, surely million of people are happy to get behind a third option just to make a statement when the two other options are a potential dementia patient and fecking Trump?
Wasn't there a viable 3rd option back in the early 90s?
It's literally impossible unless the entire party collapses. Amy Klobuchar would smoke any third party candidate, and she's awful. The system simply isn't designed for it, even more than the British one.
He surely can't stand for re-election after that NATO performance?
How is the entire US press saying anything other than: WHAT THE FECK IS WRONG WITH US?
How does an entire nation just go along with this. Humans are such a remarkably idiotic herdlike species. Get these 2 morons off the fecking world stage you lunatics.
How does an entire nation just go along with this. Humans are such a remarkably idiotic herdlike species. Get these 2 morons off the fecking world stage you lunatics.
Trump has caused a big damage, probably permanent, to the U.S. political system. He lowered the bar in so many ways for what’s acceptable from a nominee for president. The goal posts are moved constantly.
Frankly his comments about age with "The only thing that age does..is help you with..cr-cr creates a bit of wisdom if you pay attention" are just as bad as the name gaffes. Who in his team thought that poorly delivered line was a perfectly acceptable answer? It's as if they expect no one has ever seen another 80 year old deteriorate apart from Biden.
Yes, it’s desperation at this stage.
Despite the big risk, it’s time to move on. We have time to replace him. Harris should drop too. I want a totally new ticket.
As for the Convention; it can be pushed by few weeks. It’s okay to have in early-mid September.
You mean to tell me my old granny who puts the TV remote in the toaster and occasionally pisses herself isn’t fit to run the world?
It can't, the parties alter the rules as they see fit to ensure only they have a legit chance. They changed the percentage rules after Perot nearly broke it, which keeps other party candidates away from the debate stages.
However, if there was a massively popular person out there that could draw from center, left, and right, and get beyond the 10% (or is it 15%?) polling requirement, he/she would get a spot at the debates. In today's climate that's probably a celebrity or war hero or whatever and he/she would battle against far-right nutters and far-left progressives to narrow the gap. Going against weak and despised candidates such as Biden and Trump, it could theoretically happen, but the problem with someone like Trump is he has reached demigod level with 25-30% of the eligible voting block which represents a difficult roadblock to overcome in a general election. Let's say in 2028 such popular person arrived, he/she would be going against a more likely popular Dem nominee while who knows if the GOP try to somehow retain Trump (SCOTUS rules for him, perhaps) or they find another charismatic nutter that retains Trump's core block (perhaps with the orange clown as VP running a shadow monarchy).
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President Putin introduced by President Pudding.
It's fine. For the last six months they've told him that the Easy-Bake Oven in his playroom is the nuclear football.
The real football is in a lockbox with "Password is the current year" etched on the side of it, so we're safe.