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Manchester United 0:2 Newcastle United

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Mon, 30 December 2024 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    Two things we definitely need:

    - Casemiro has to play. His box defending and threat are a must.
    - Amad needs to play wing back. If we play two defenders in these positions we won’t score.
    Agreed. We played much better football when Amad was RWB. Casemiro offers us a threat on attacking set pieces also.
     
    They're going to win this either way, so we should try something new, because the 3-4-3 obviously isn't going to work with these players. Also since Bruno will be suspended it's as good an opportunity as any to experiment with a system that doesn't use him.

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    Antony..............................................................Amad
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    .....................Ugarte.........Eriksen.............................
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    Dalot...........................................................Mazraoui
    .........................de Ligt.......Yoro.................................
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    .................................Onana........................................

    So, didn't realize Ugarte is suspended and there's no real chance that Amorim is abandoning the 3-4-3, so I guess I'd go with this:

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    ........................Eriksen..........Zirkzee.........................
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    Mazraoui...........................................................Amad
    .........................Casemiro......Mainoo.........................
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    .........Martinez..............................Yoro......................
    .................................de Ligt.......................................
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    .................................Onana........................................

    I'd also put Rashford on the bench, because at this point, why not.
     
    So difficult to pick a team for this game. Ugarte is a massive miss.

    Onana
    Maz. Maguire De Ligt
    Amad Cas Mainoo. Dalot
    Eriksen. Garnacho
    Hojlund

    Not keen on this but Licha needs to be rested and I am really worried about Mainoo and Dalot - but we are so short of options
     
    When you're fully expecting a loss against this lot at home, then logic tells you we'll probably win.

    Yes but you've gone ahead and reverse jinxed it so we'll definitely lose now.

    Should have just kept the doom and gloom going until matchday.
     
    Newcastle have won their last 4 games and no one have not scored against them in 3 of them. They are going to slaughter us.
     
    They’re on a good run but all fixtures you’d expect them to win except for Villa where they played an hour vs 10 men.

    No wins in four before that.

    We’ve 7 points from a possible 9 in the respective fixtures.
     
    Newcastle have won their last 4 games and no one have not scored against them in 3 of them. They are going to slaughter us.
    I can’t think of a prem team, other than the one we’ve got coming up after them, that I’d rather play right now less than Newcastle. They always play like crackheads against us.
     
    Let's win this! Those going to Old Trafford, please sing your hearts out on behalf of fans who can't be there. We need to make United a fortress again.
     
    Well admire anyone who thinks we could get a result tonight, however can safely say no one will give us a prayer at Anfield next Sunday
     
    They’re on a good run but all fixtures you’d expect them to win except for Villa where they played an hour vs 10 men.

    No wins in four before that.

    We’ve 7 points from a possible 9 in the respective fixtures.
    What copium magic is this?
     
    Just read that Newcastle have only won once in past 39 league games at Old Trafford... so, we know exactly what's going to happen
     
    Last game of the year. Just get a win otherwise it’s going to be 5 losses in a row.
     
    Just read that Newcastle have only won once in past 39 league games at Old Trafford... so, we know exactly what's going to happen
    Ye I’ve been saying that a few times. They won here last year and then the last time was 2013.
     
    Just read that Newcastle have only won once in past 39 league games at Old Trafford... so, we know exactly what's going to happen
    That dreadful 1-0 loss under Moyes with Cabaye scoring the winner? Eleven years ago - I‘m getting old.

    Our 37th League game this year winning just 14 out of 36, drawing nine & losing 13. A total number of 18 home games in 2024, winning an abysmal eight, drawing four & losing six.
     
    That dreadful 1-0 loss under Moyes with Cabaye scoring the winner? Eleven years ago - I‘m getting old.

    Our 37th League game this year winning just 14 out of 36, drawing nine & losing 13. A total number of 18 home games in 2024, winning an abysmal eight, drawing four & losing six.
    Depressing stats. Really bad.
     
    Last game of the year. Just get a win otherwise it’s going to be 5 losses in a row.
    Last games in the last five years:

    2023: 2-1 loss @ Nottingham Forest
    2022: 1-0 win @ Wolves
    2021: 3-1 win v Burnley
    2020: 1-0 win v Wolves
    2019: 2-0 win @ Burnley
     
    Last games in the last five years:

    2023: 2-1 loss @ Nottingham Forest
    2022: 1-0 win @ Wolves
    2021: 3-1 win v Burnley
    2020: 1-0 win v Wolves
    2019: 2-0 win @ Burnley
    Think you misunderstood my post. I meant it will be 5 losses in a row from our form. We’ve lost 3 in a row, tonight could be 4 and next week at Anfield will be 5.
     
    So, didn't realize Ugarte is suspended and there's no real chance that Amorim is abandoning the 3-4-3, so I guess I'd go with this:

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    ........................Eriksen..........Zirkzee.........................
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    Mazraoui...........................................................Amad
    .........................Casemiro......Mainoo.........................
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    .........Martinez..............................Yoro......................
    .................................de Ligt.......................................
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    .................................Onana........................................

    I'd also put Rashford on the bench, because at this point, why not.

    I'd go Maguire for Martinez and Garnacho for Eriksen personally but your comment on Rashford worries me as it would eradicate any of the position Amorim has taken so far if we bring him back in the squad now as we are low on numbers, there has to be a level set that he clearly isn't reaching in, if we allow him back for any reason the manager shows he can be pushed into folding, he needs to stay strong so people realise he won't lower his expectations.
     
    Do worry that the circumstances are similar to the League Cup defeat in November last year.

    We’d just been well beaten a few days earlier (against City), the mood was grim and there wasn’t really the appetite amongst the fans.

    Newcastle were in form strolled to a 0-3 win.
     
    May as well but Collyer and Mainoo in midfield for this. Starting Eriksen & Casimero is just waiting for the inevitable.
     
    Think you misunderstood my post. I meant it will be 5 losses in a row from our form. We’ve lost 3 in a row, tonight could be 4 and next week at Anfield will be 5.
    Yeah, you’re right - was just wondering how we did in the last years, which looks okayish, I suppose.
     
    May as well but Collyer and Mainoo in midfield for this. Starting Eriksen & Casimero is just waiting for the inevitable.
    Casemiro as actually been pretty good this season which is weird that he got dropped. He’s very good in the air so gives us strengths at defending and attacking set pieces.
     
    Only glimmer of hope is that this team has sometimes produced an improbable result with the back against the wall. It would somehow be quite typical for the past few years to lose to Wolves and then beat Newcastle. Definitely not expecting anything though. The quality is just too poor.
     
    Only glimmer of hope is that this team has sometimes produced an improbable result with the back against the wall. It would somehow be quite typical for the past few years to lose to Wolves and then beat Newcastle. Definitely not expecting anything though. The quality is just too poor.

    Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if we won, lost or drew today; it feels like anything can happen with this team.
     
    I think I would go with this realistically

    Onana
    De Ligt Maguire Licha
    Antony Cas Mainoo. Maz/Dalot
    Amad. Garnacho
    Hojlund
     
    Would that honestly be acceptable? We're in free fall unless we get something here.

    Well it's not but the team is shit. Shit teams get shit results.

    We have a keeper who can't catch crosses and will be targeted every single time from corners and free kicks, not to mention liable to let in a howler or pass it straight to the opposition.

    We have a defence that can't defend set pieces.

    Without Ugarte, we have a midfield that can't run.

    We have a right footed left wing back who can't attack and can only check back and pass it backwards or sideways.

    They have Alexander Isak as their centre forward, we have Rasmus Hojlund.

    I'm not blaming Amorim for any of this except perhaps the set piece defending - he needs to make improving this a priority as it's putting us in a hole every game. However, none of the players are his, he inherited this shitshow of a squad from Ten Hag.
     
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Score Predictions

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  • Man Utd win
  • Newcastle win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 18% Man Utd 0:3 Newcastle
  • 16% Man Utd 2:1 Newcastle
  • 12% Man Utd 0:2 Newcastle
  • 12% Man Utd 1:3 Newcastle
  • 8% Man Utd 1:2 Newcastle
  • 6% Man Utd 0:4 Newcastle
  • 5% Man Utd 1:1 Newcastle
  • 3% Man Utd 2:2 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:1 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 0:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 2:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 0:9 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 1:0 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 1:4 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 4:3 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 4:1 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 2:3 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 2:5 Newcastle
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Newcastle
Overall possession
52.7% 47.3%
Shots
10 12
Shots on target
1 4
Total touches in the box
17 19
Goalkeeper saves
2 0
Fouls
13 8
Corners
2 3

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Simon Hooper