Manchester United 3:1 Liverpool

RonaldoVII · Sep 11, 2015

No sight of Rooney in the getty images from training either apparently

Sigma · Sep 11, 2015

Rooney injured?

RedStarUnited · Sep 11, 2015

Fellainis Nutmeg said:
But Rooney trained with the team earlier today, he might have media commitments to handle hence did not arrive with the rest of the team probably?

That would make sense if there were 17 players checking in at the hotel. Instead, 18 players have checked in - 11 starters and 7 subs.

Señor · Sep 11, 2015

Well let's not pretend he's going to exactly be a big miss. Fellaini as a striker isn't great by any means but it won't be any worse than the Rooney 'against Liverpool' performance. It might also mean we see Martial thrown straight in the deep end.

FC Ronaldo · Sep 11, 2015

Sparky Rhiwabon · Sep 11, 2015

Fellainis Nutmeg said:
But Rooney trained with the team earlier today, he might have media commitments to handle hence did not arrive with the rest of the team probably?

How do you know that?

RonaldoVII · Sep 11, 2015

It could be anything. The game is at 5.30pm so he could be staying due to something with Colleen or one of his kids or something. Can't rule him out yet.

Adisa · Sep 11, 2015

Blessing in disguise.

FC Ronaldo · Sep 11, 2015

Pics of players available on the link...

Damien · Sep 11, 2015

The lineup predictions game for tomorrow is going to be a nightmare.

Fellainis Nutmeg · Sep 11, 2015

Sparky Rhiwabon said:
How do you know that?

I think he was in the training pics and videos released earlier today.

Fellainis Nutmeg · Sep 11, 2015

RedStarUnited said:
That would make sense if there were 17 players checking in at the hotel. Instead, 18 players have checked in - 11 starters and 7 subs.

Oh, I did not know that. He is definitely out in that case. He was not in great form either, Martial's time to start or Fellaini to lead the line?

botond · Sep 11, 2015

Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Rumours Rooney might miss out

Punishment for his outburst?

what outburst ?

Traub · Sep 11, 2015

Memphis as the striker, young on the left and Herrera behind.

Dobba · Sep 11, 2015

So the media has the inside track on the players' thoughts on LvG's training methods but stories of Rooney being doubtful only come out when the team check in to the hotel?

Unlikely lad · Sep 11, 2015

RedStarUnited said:
That would make sense if there were 17 players checking in at the hotel. Instead, 18 players have checked in - 11 starters and 7 subs.

Source?

Reynoldo · Sep 11, 2015

It's going to be Martial lads, LVG's gonna surprise us all.

Raw · Sep 11, 2015

Feck it, going with Fellaini up front for this.

Sigma · Sep 11, 2015

Unlikely lad said:
Source?

Bugzy said:

Sparky Rhiwabon · Sep 11, 2015

botond said:
what outburst ?

To Van Gaal saying that there was low morale in the dressing room. LVG confirmed it today

Fellainis Nutmeg · Sep 11, 2015

Unlikely lad said:
Source?

These are the players who were at the Lowry tonight:

Romero
De Gea
Valencia
Darmian
Smalling
McNair
Blind
Rojo
Shaw
Herrera
Carrick
Schneiderlin
Schweinsteiger
Memphis
Mata
Young
Martial
Fellaini

sammsky1 · Sep 11, 2015

There are doubts over Wayne Rooney's fitness. He'll have a fitness test tomorrow morning. [neil custis]

Fellainis Nutmeg · Sep 11, 2015

Question234 · Sep 11, 2015

feck i already picked wazza ffs

Adnan · Sep 11, 2015

Offside · Sep 11, 2015

We still have enough to see them off good if we are motivated right. Can see Luke Shaw having a stormer.

Adnan · Sep 11, 2015

MEN also reporting Rooney is out of tomorrow's clash and Fellaini will replace him.

Ventura · Sep 11, 2015

This is weird, because with Rooney out there's no telling who's going to start as a striker. I think that sort of illustrates our issues in attack. I'm guessing ... Fellaini? Although Memphis or Martial wouldn't surprise me either. Actually, Martial would surprise me.
Wait, this is LVG ... Anyway, off to the lineup prediction thing, I guess. Some of you look like you haven't noticed, but you can change your prediction until it closes.

Cantonaaa! · Sep 11, 2015

Fellaini will tear Squirtle and Lovren the clown a new one. 2-0.

FromTheBench · Sep 11, 2015

littlepeasoup · Sep 11, 2015

3rdCarter said:
feck i already picked wazza ffs

You can change it.

sunama · Sep 11, 2015

I for one have felt for a while that Rooney needs to leave the club.
Being a non-scoring striker, but still getting picked is very frustrating.
So, if he is not in the team tomorrow, we shall get to see how we play, without him. So should be interesting.
I for one am hoping he does not play, because we need to start scoring goals and with him as our (non-scoring) striker, that doesn't look likely.

groovyalbert · Sep 11, 2015

sunama said:
I for one have felt for a while that Rooney needs to leave the club.
Being a non-scoring striker, but still getting picked is very frustrating.
So, if he is not in the team tomorrow, we shall get to see how we play, without him. So should be interesting.
I for one am hoping he does not play, because we need to start scoring goals and with him as our (non-scoring) striker, that doesn't look likely.

Although he's our top scorer this season.

If this is true then when was the last time no one from either Manchester or Liverpool was involved in this fixture?

sunama · Sep 11, 2015

He isn't our top scorer in the EPL.
We have 3 goals:
OG
Januzaj
Mata (I think).

Rooney showed great form in 1 game, against Brugg, but every other game before and after - he was poor and could not score.
Even in the England games, he couldn't score in open play and needed someone else to create the penalties.

The EPL is a completely different animal to anything else on the planet. LVG has repeatedly stated this. In fact, I think he stated something along these lines in the presser today. He stated that Di Maria, at 27, at the peak of his powers could not handle the EPL. Same for Falcao. And that people should not expect miracles from Martial.

Now, one plan is to have our players play for penalties (and Rooney to take them) - this could work, but would be very risky, as a ref may give yellow cards for diving.
The pace, power, aggression and ferocity we saw from Rooney at 18 is something which the 29 year old Rooney, no longer possesses.

NL Max · Sep 11, 2015

de Gea
Darmian - Smalling - Blind - Shaw
Schweinsteiger - Schneiderlin
Mata - Herrera - Memphis
Fellaini

I've gone with this, it could also be Carrick for Schweinsteiger (second captain stuff with Rooney out) and Young instead of Herrera with Memphis playing central.

RetroStu · Sep 12, 2015

I'd laugh my arse off if Martial scored the winning goal tomorrow, after all the shit Rawk have said about him.

Eckers99 · Sep 12, 2015

Absent domination.

dwd · Sep 12, 2015

RetroStu said:
I'd laugh my arse off if Martial scored the winning goal tomorrow, after all the shit Rawk have said about him.

Me too...

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/anthony-martial.408616/page-35#post-18055868
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/anthony-martial.408616/page-60#post-18063916
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/anthony-martial.408616/page-60#post-18064180
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/manchester-united-sign-anthony-martial.408882/page-5#post-18073703

RonaldoVII · Sep 12, 2015

Is Wilson actually still with us? Could he be on the bench tomorrow?

paulscholes18 · Sep 12, 2015

DDG
Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw
BFS Morgan
Mata Herrera Memphis
Afro

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