Just hanging around for the Horner/Toto spice
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Yep. Watched it again.
Must be a fast Walker
He already changed his mind a year or two back.
They open the gates after the race at Monza, to allow the fans to fill the start/finish straight and gather under the podium, after that loads of people walk a lap. It’s such a great race to attend if you ever get the opportunity.
I know it’s fun and all but should Max be sharing his sweaty shoe around to drink from in COVID times?
Horner's borrowing Essien's calculator to count how much it costs to fix Max's car.
so so so happy. what a result.
I knew we were quick at Monza but I never expected this! huge.
I knew we were quick at Monza but I never expected this! huge.
Home race for Mazepin next round. Hopefully he spins less this time.
I’ve never been to Monza, o would love to one day.
They open the gates after the race at Monza, to allow the fans to fill the start/finish straight and gather under the podium, after that loads of people walk a lap. It’s such a great race to attend if you ever get the opportunity.
I just found it funny you said you knew the racing line, you’d walked it
It’s not about whether they can or can’t though. It’s about who has the right and what sensible drivers would do. Why should Lewis in that position have to give up space so Max can keep his ideal line and just because there is space on the outside for him to give him more room? Surely by the same point then Max should have done that in Silverstone?
And by this logic, every car would just stick their car up the inside on every corner on the basis that the other car would have to give space.
which is why it is not about whether both cars can or can’t get through, it’s about who has the right. And just like Lewis had the right here, Max did in Silverstone. And why in both cases, what I would see as a racing incident between two aggressive drivers not wanting give up anything, once you give the penalty to Lewis in Silverstone you have to to Max here.
The entire team is extremely self centered to the point of absurdity, all comes from the top down with Horner being such a baby, and it's reflected in Max's extremely spoiled attitude.
Lewis blames Max , Max blames Lewis, did Sky expect anything else.
Racing incident, both wanted the space, both giving nothing, if the sausage kerb had not been there, maybe they would have got though it.
Racing incident, both wanted the space, both giving nothing, if the sausage kerb had not been there, maybe they would have got though it.
Watching the replay from Max's car. It does look like he's getting squeezed by Lewis ...not sure the rules of corneri, who gets what.
See you all for bumper cars in 2 weeks time.
I think it’s a racing incident too. But I also thought Silverstone was. So if you give a penalty for Lewis there, you have to, IMO, give Max a penalty here.
Hamilton in shock U-Turn - what a prick.
Yeah I know, everyone has. But even more so to realise how it has now saved his life no doubt!
Loved that bit where Toto celebrates Bottas overtaking then realises he didn’t make it stick.
I had Silverstone as 60-40 Lewis deserved penalty.
At the speed they are going yes. They are not as fast at the restart.
It's a chicane, there's no space for 2 cars.
Verstappen tried to force his way into a gap that didn't exist. Wreckless again.
he wouldn't do a move like that on Mazepin, he's trying to bully his way passed Lewis.
That's a pretty standard Daily Mirror sub heading isn't it?
I’ve said from the beginning it’s a racing incident, but it’s not about just “sticking it up the inside” and the other guy has to give you room. Max’s front wheel was over half way up the side of Lewis, he was alongside him going into T2 and if I’m not mistaken if the other guys wheels are in front of your rear wheels you should give enough room to make the corner within the track boundaries.
Having seen the lap one incident I get why Lewis didn’t yield, and I don’t really give a feck cos I don’t like either of them, but I don’t think it’s the blatant fault of Max that most are making out.
Eh?! They’re doing the exact same speed!!
Watch this and tell me again they’re not going as fast.
What's his name saying Max may of done it on purpose.
yes. You're never going around the outside of somebody whos already INTO the chicane. If you're going into it side by side then the driver on the inside will need to take a wider line.
Lewis didn't need to do that as he's already way ahead. Just slinging yourself down the outside and trying to force yourself into a gap that doesn't exist isn't a proper move.
What’s different to here? I think this is equally 60-40 on Max.
Disagreeing with di Resta here - no way Max is ever getting through this corner. Lewis is ahead and taking the line he wants. Max gets alongside by driving in far too quickly - if Lewis isn't there and Max drives through that corner on that line he's barely making the exit of the chicane.
Horner is right about the pit, Max should not have been there, Lewis had a slow pit also
Horner then blames Lewis , would not expect anything else!!
Horner then blames Lewis , would not expect anything else!!
Horner doesn’t sound convincing, I think he knows it’s mostly on Max.
100%. Just having extra speed from behind doesn't mean you can throw yourself into a chicane and hope it works. He clearly hoped he'd bump him out of the way and push passed, but he caught the kerb and lost control.
This was way more on purpose than anything Hamilton did at Silverstone.
Likewise I don’t think its blatant. But, my point is there is NO difference to this and the lap one incident in Silverstone. Once Lewis was given a penalty there, I strongly feel it is only fair to give Max a penalty here. What’s your take on the Silverstone point?
I actually agree with you - I think the lap one incident here, at Silverstone and this crash, were all racing incidents. But once a penalty was given to Lewis in Silverstone I feel it must be given to Max here because otherwise it’s inconsistent. If I had it my way none of them would be penalties.
Yep, you know when Horner is trying to be neutral he knows it's on them
There's a lot of great photos from today, but this one gets me everytime.
To be honest, each time I watch it I changing my mind from Racing Incident to Max 60/40
De Resta made some good points.
Lets see what the stewards decide
They go trough one at a time apart of Norris who bumps tyres.
Horner thinks racing incident and nobody to blame. Confirms Max should have bailed to me.
Look at the screenshot I posted earlier in the thread and watch the video in the tweet from Sky Sports of Norris and LeClerc.
I can’t be arsed arguing this anymore, I don’t even like Max