He's just wumming (wind up merchant) mate
Ibrahimovic will be a fantastic striker for Martial and potentially Mkhitaryan to work with. Will give us one of the best attacks in the league
Zlatan Ibrahimovic |United Player | See the thread in the United Forum
- Thread starter Hellboy
- Start date
- Status
Ibrahimovic will be a fantastic striker for Martial and potentially Mkhitaryan to work with. Will give us one of the best attacks in the league
It's remarkable the sense of entitlement some people have now. Saying no to Ibrahimovic and Mkhitaryan when we finished 7th and 5th in the past 3 seasons.
Diving, Missing open nets and failing to make an impact on a big game. Zlatans looking more and more like our player!!
JK
JK
Good one!On a more serious note, who else would we seriously consider as an alternative to Zlatan this summer? Lewandowski is going nowhere. You don't want to bring in a promising 20 year old. Zlatan is no guarantee of success but he's as close as you'll get to one and we only need him for two seasons max. We'll deal with the future when the future arrives.
Surely I'm not the only one having second thoughts. We have Carrick and Rooney along the spine. Adding Zlatan it just doesn't fit. I don't mind relying on Carrick and Rooney, they're stalwarts.
I just can't believe there is no faster more agile younger options.
Mane, Lacazette,? Idk, I don't watch much non-United footy.
I could see Zlatan getting us possibly 15-20 goals/assists. I guess if there's really absolutely no other options it's better than nothing.
Maybe if Memphis actually stepped up to the plate as LF we could switch Martial to #9.
Then again Zlatan is free transfer so maybe it is all good after all and we do lack options.
I'm really all over the shop when I think about the forward line.
I just can't believe there is no faster more agile younger options.
Mane, Lacazette,? Idk, I don't watch much non-United footy.
I could see Zlatan getting us possibly 15-20 goals/assists. I guess if there's really absolutely no other options it's better than nothing.
Maybe if Memphis actually stepped up to the plate as LF we could switch Martial to #9.
Then again Zlatan is free transfer so maybe it is all good after all and we do lack options.
I'm really all over the shop when I think about the forward line.
Meant striker signing but had a bit too much to drink last night.
Have you ever seen him play apart from the Euros? To claim he has no ability to create based on two games just shows you have zero idea about him as a player and really your opinion on him is then not worth the effort you make to type that nonsense in.
Ronaldo is playing in a far, far superior Portugal team. Why are you so fixated with his age?
Cold light of day, I'm back to yes. That's about the 3rd time. I think I'm settled.
If it was all based on one player it would be Portugal and Argentina winning every final especially considering the player they have supporting them.
Supprised about alot of the age comments considering Giggs was our best player well into his late 30's (even of that was because of poor recruitmet) and we only want a short term solution until Rashford matures.
Supprised about alot of the age comments considering Giggs was our best player well into his late 30's (even of that was because of poor recruitmet) and we only want a short term solution until Rashford matures.
Zlatan has had more offsides and more fouls than anyone else but hasn't managed a shot on target.
Errrrr Rashford?
Seriously we're obviously showing faith in the kid and rightly so. We can't expect him to play 50 odd games next year as the main striker, he's 18! We need a short term option, there's no one better than Zlatan in this regard.
I find it fascinating how some people want Utd to develop Rashford and Martial by playing them regularly, but at the same time want a young/in his prime striker instead of Ibrahimovic, while also criticizing Mourinho for not giving youth a chance. It's simply fascinating to watch.
While he's not been on top form, this swedish team is absolutely useless. Not 1 shot on target from in 2 games? Van Gaal will be proud.
At the end of the day Ibra is good, but like any player he needs good quality around him to earn space. Italy were all over him like a rash. When you've got Juve's 3 CB's all over you, not even Messi and Ronaldo combined would have an easy game in that scenario.
At the end of the day Ibra is good, but like any player he needs good quality around him to earn space. Italy were all over him like a rash. When you've got Juve's 3 CB's all over you, not even Messi and Ronaldo combined would have an easy game in that scenario.
Same for Lewandowski, despite one of his games playing against Northern Ireland in a vastly superior team.
If we convince Dortmund to sell Mkhitaryan then there will be 3 forward places up for grabs between Martial, Rashford, Zlatan and Memphis... not fast and agile enough for you?
If we get Mkhitaryan and another AM, there could be just 2 places for those players. The idea that we're just gonna buy Zlatan & Bailly and put all our eggs there is completely unfounded.
Not bad. I think we just have to be patient with the young guys. I suppose it would be a tough business deciding transfers. I'd never make up my mind if it were left to me. I reckon I'm happy after all that. Probably I waver because of Zlatan's age. But I am expecting some sort of return from that forward line, don't worry.
And that's the only way to think about it, of course Zlatan would be coming in as number one. But we could also easily end up seeing a forward line of:
Martial
Rashford Mkhitaryan
Rashford Mkhitaryan
or a rejuvenated Memphis in there.
Put simply, Mourinho isn't stupid, he's a born winner and he'll strengthen that entire forward line to give us competition and options, something we didn't have at all last season. Zlatan + another forward player/winger would give us so many options.
Looking forward to it!
I think Mourinho will go for another striker as well as Zlatan.
I can see Zlatan being like Sheringham, the mature striker who never depended on his pace. So long as he is surrounded by pace he will thrive.
Mourinho will target another striker at his peak so he has the mix of Mature, peak and young striking options.
It will also provide pace, guile and possession. Will be interesting to see who the peak striker will be...Lewandovski?
I can see Zlatan being like Sheringham, the mature striker who never depended on his pace. So long as he is surrounded by pace he will thrive.
Mourinho will target another striker at his peak so he has the mix of Mature, peak and young striking options.
It will also provide pace, guile and possession. Will be interesting to see who the peak striker will be...Lewandovski?
Definitely he is. Remember that CL semi-final against Madrid? He destroyed them, four goals, basically won a huge tie against a massive team single-handedly. Incredible performance. Don't think I've ever seen Ibrahimovic do anything like that, or if I did it's so long ago I've forgotten, he's not at that level.
If Lewandowski does leave, then Ibra to Bayern makes perfect sense for both parties. They'd get a top striker and he'd get one final shot to win the CL. It makes more sense than United does IMO.
But Bayern really shouldn't be selling Lewandowski so I'm still hopeful we are in the box seat.
But Bayern really shouldn't be selling Lewandowski so I'm still hopeful we are in the box seat.
Getting all so excited over a 34 year old striker? How far have we fallen.
The only thing Ibra has failed at is acing the CL. Apart from that, he's bossed various leagues, decided many titles and perform in many big games.
We aren't really in a position to turn down a striker who has done everything apart from star in the CL. The other options are far inferior.
Obviously it absolutely doesn't matter who that player is. No siree.
A striker like Ibra is only as good as the service he gets from his companions!
That's fair enough but then I look at players like Rashford who got us to the FA Cup final with superb individual moments and who won us the game against City by himself and wonder if we should just stick with him.
We are sticking with him; he's not going anywhere! But if you mean he should be the main striker then what happens if he gets injured? We still need to sign another forward. Assuming Rashford is the main man then the new signing would need to be backup to him. Who could be bring in who would be backup to an 18 year old and still be good enough to depend on when needed?
It just doesn't sound sensible to me. We're not going to win leagues and compete for the CL with an 18 year old leading the line, unless it's a young Messi. There's absolutely no need to rush Rashford. We need a real top quality forward, simple as that.
Perhaps. When we first linked with him I thought it was a terrible idea. But things have changed a lot since then, with Mourinho in charge there are certainly logical reasons to sign him. I just think some people are being way too hyperbolic about his impact and too dismissive of any criticism of the player.
This is exactly what im hoping for
Fingers crossed eh?His Euro perfomances just prove what I have said for years now. He fails to deliver on the big stage, whether it's for Inter, or Barcelona, or PSG or Sweden. He always fails when it matters the most. He is a flat-track bully.
Yes, I have. I've been watching football since 1996. Obviously Zlatan 2016 is not the same as Zlatan in 2006. He has lost his pace. his stamina is nowhere near as good anymore, his dribbling has deteriorated on almost a seasonal basis since he arrived at the second tier league.
This is the same problem I had with Falcao too. The guy scored 40% of his goals for Monaco from penalties, was considered a major disappointment by most Monaco fans, then was injured for 8 months or so, but United fans still expected him to be the Falcao of Atletico Madrid.
Zlatan has been mediocre if not sub-par every time he's played against a decent team in the CL for PSG. He has had no excuses either because he's surrounded by world class talent. But people forget how poor he is against the Barcelona's and Real Madrids, and heck - even the Manchester Citys of this world just because he a few days later after flopping in an important CL fixture scores a hat-trick against Guingamp or some other small fish in the french league. Flat-track bully.
If we get that right winger from Dortmund (no chance can I spell his name) we could have Rashford, Rooney, Martial and him to play up top. Lingard, Depay and Young could be back up wingers, and we could improve on them if you want.
And to add to that now the Premier League is so good, there isn't anyone to really "bully" that much anymore. Even teams near the bottom have mean defences.
I don't! That's the point I'm making. It was silly to suggest he could but that was happening in this thread not long back.
Ah, the good ol' "Ibrahimovic hasn't ever performed in the CL" excuses being rung out every page... A tournament we've had little to no joy over the last 7 years. Guess we'll be a perfect fit.
Reaching the final in 2011 doesn't count as joy? Hmm
I'll just point out that an 18yo Messi was not leading the line at league or CL winners.
Can we bring the positivity back into this thread.. We're gonna have Zlatan fecking Ibrahimovic in our side! Gonna be immense
Can't wait for our first game at OT and seeing him walk out.. Goosebumps thinking about it
Can't wait for our first game at OT and seeing him walk out.. Goosebumps thinking about it
People really just do not understand do they?
- Status